Nice List you can Mencion
Lone Wolf and Cub
Nice List you can Mencion
Lone Wolf and Cub
Shouldn't Bone, Tom Strong, Hellboy and Lara Croft be on here as well? Still a dope list.
Wow… Dude this is probably the most involved thread I've seen, props to all you do!!
The Amount of Work you put into this... Mindblowing.
Another great list liberty!
I recommend checking up on the Phantom's publications by Indian publishers. You'll find a lot more on the ghost who walks.
Very interesting lol.
Nice list. I applaud the hard work.
I read this, but can you give me a summary of it.
I agree that its important to know what came before, right now I am reading Amazing Spider-Man by Stan Lee and John Romita (read from Amazing Spider-Man #1 by Lee and Dikto and now up to ASM #46 I think it is. Thank you Marvel Master Works) as well as MMW's Captain America vol. 1, the Avengers vol. 1, the X-Men vol. 1, and Fantastic Four volumes 1-4 (just shy of the intro of the Inhumans, Silver Surfer and Galactus... MUST get vol. 5)
I have also tried my best to read other important books like Crisis on Infinite Earth, Squadron Supreme, Year One, Dark Knight Returns, and so on.
If you really want a great history of comics check out History Chanel's Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked. Go to a place that rents its, or sells it, or shows it, and rent it, or buy it, and watch it!
Its great, it covers comics from almost the beginning.
I learned in a class that it started with drawings in a magazine sold to the poorer public, And it started as a single drawing (like a political drawing), then (according to a Jack Kirby interview on youtube) you add a few panels to that and you get a comic strip. Then pulbishers started noticing that those sold enough that they could make money buy selling collections of comic strips (like a best of your favorite comic strip in a cheap paper magazine form). Then after some time a company created their very own original character for one of those cheap paper magazines. And that led to superheroes and funny comics, and that lead to us today.
The DVD also covers the rise and fall (WWII), then rise and fall again (Comics on Trial), and then the rise and fall yet again (Collectors in the 90s), of comics over the years.
I have also watched, if you guys want to check these out too, The Amazing Story of Superman, Marvel's Guide to New York (shows real spots around New York used by Marvel, added with shots of real people acting like Superheroes, and comic shots to compare them the real buildings to), the Psychology of Batman, and the Psychology of Superman and Batman.
Something I have noticed by reading these old issues is how amazing some of the character we find mundane today were treated, like the Vulture. Not sure if it was just Stan but they acted as though no one had dreamed a man could fly. Some characters are even considered so mundane today that they need retooling and added powers to them.
I also read a few pages of a Ditko bio, and it talks about how his following the teachings of Ayn Rand effected Spider-Man comics and maybe even his leaving Spider-man.
Awesome list! Very comprehensive, and an interesting objective way to gauge characters.
If you don't mind me being a bit nitpicky, I'd like to point out more issues for Turok: When Valiant bought the Gold Key properties, they relaunched Turok. He had a 48-issue run with them.
*Whistles* Man this is one hell of a list. I can tell you work extremely hard on this. Great job!
This is a great list. I never some of the older characters would have had that many issues in one run.
i love the list ive never seen one in which more effort went in.
i want to make a few corrections but dont be insulted i just wanted to let you know. :)
Deadpool has had 4 ongoing solo series: "Deadpool," "Deadpool V2," "Deadpool V3," "Merc with a Mouth." Hes also had a bunch of minis and one-shots plus three team-up series.
Spider-men has had 8 ongoing solo series: "Amazing Spider-Man," "Sensational Spider-Man," "Spectacular Spider-Man," "Sensational Spider-Man V2," Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man," "Untold Tales of Spider-Man," "Ultimate Spider-Man," "Marvel Adventures Spider-Man," and a newspaper comic. and im not counting the webs.
but great job :)
Yeah, I read the rules, but I kind of think it's skewing the numbers to not include Amazing, Web of, and Spectacular, when "Spider-Man" is a much newer series than all of those. I could see not including Marvel Tales, which was reprints anyway (although I think an argument could be made about how long said reprint sold, because it was Spidey), or not including something like "Spider-Man: Mutant Agenda," or "Spider-Man: India" (or whatever the comic was that showed Spidey as a guy from India).
I mean, if the criteria is "self titled only," then does "The Batman" one-shot from Tangent count as a Batman self-title? It was being related to the Bruce Wayne Batman that sold that comic, because fans wanted to see how this alternate version would compare. Does that count?
Still a cool list though. :)
Phantom is actually quite popular internationally, in Australia, Scandinavia, and India, for example
Liberty, you are a great contributor to CV and I commend you for creating another interesting, well-researched, well-written, and comprehensive list. You deserve serious kudos for your efforts.
However, like IrishX, I have a MAJOR problem with your uncompromising reasoning about restricting the title to only the character's name in order to qualify -- relegating one of comicdom's biggest and most enduring superstars, Spider-Man, to only #35 on the list (behind such luminaries as Betty Cooper, nothing against her) when he clearly should be in the top 3. I have read your explanation several times now, and I still don't agree with it and think it is unreasonable.
It should not matter if SPIDER-MAN is preceded by (in much smaller letters) "Amazing," "Web of," or "Peter Parker, the Spectacular." You disqualify it because you claim the character shouldn't need the adjective in order to sell the book. I say hogwash. The book sells because it is about Spider-Man and the name SPIDER-MAN sells the book, period. Not the adjective. This is a fatal flaw in your argument that makes your list more about semantics than it is about true popularity and content. Sorry to sound like I'm coming down on you so hard since I really respect your contributions, but I really feel the need to make this point.
This looks like it was as hard to make as pulling teeth really good effort man but there's just one small problem in this list.....Jug head beats spider-man I know it's your list and all but still just something about a guy who eats hamburgers all day and has a paper crown topping Ol' Webhead just doesn't sit right with me
" Good job, man. Great list. "
" @Mr.Q: You don't know how true that is I literally stayed up after my kids went to bed.can't be good for your health. or your mind. I know a thing or two about sleep deprivation. don't sleep much than I can't think. can't process what is going on around me. its what I imagine going insane must be like. wouldn't wish it on anyone. now sleep soldier. sleep.
You can see you put a lot of work on the list with a description on every character and even a huge description on the top. I hope you do more of these.
I'm sure my eyes glazed over when I saw Stuperman in the #1 postion. But once I got past that I have to say it is a pretty good list.
This an interesting list!
Where is Billy? I'm going to have to come back after I compile all my information, I will not accept Freddy being on a list and not being lower than Billy.
Great list though... but having Billy Batson on there would make it Awesome.
YAY! SUPES!!! XD
Good job, man. Great list.
why don't comics like Conan the Barbarian, Conan the King and Conan the Cimmerian count? I mean they are still his name aren't they, he has been known as those things
god list you had a lot of work with that list