#101 Edited by unBREAKable_Fs4 (1750 posts) - - Show Bio

This is one word: Stupid. We all know how this is gonna go down, she'll have the hammer for a little below or over a year, then fans are gonna complain that this entire idea is retarded and then they'll bring the REAL Thor back in. It happens with all the superheroes who get replaced (except the flash apparently)

*Talks to myself*

I'm not mad.......I'm not mad........I'm not mad.........I'm not mad.......I'm not mad........I'm not mad.........I'm not mad

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#102 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

This ISN'T HOW YOU REACH OUT TO WOMEN, MARVEL. MAKE NEW FEMALE CHARACTERS THAT DON'T SUCK HOW ABOUT THAT. We have been complaining for YEARS about genderbent side-characters, like the only way to make a girl hero popular is for her to be "Super"girl or "Spider"girl or Hulkette or Miss Wolverine, when are you going to get it through your skulls that the way to get us to respect you is to make actual real new characters? You slate Black Widow and Storm and then you give us a reskin of a male character! What the f***? Isn't the fact that this is the wrong way common knowledge at this point? To the point where even you yourself shy away from using it as an example? F***'s sake.

@kleo_94 said:

"Captain American"(wait what), Wolverine, and now this. Congrats Marvel. I'm 100% done with this kind of shit.

As am I too. This is repetitive and inane and dumb. Nothing else at Marvel had my interest anyway so I'm done with it period.

#103 Posted by SHAZAM117 (3031 posts) - - Show Bio

*sigh*

I stopped taking these character changes/deaths from MARVEL seriously a loooong time ago. It's laughable at this point. Peter Parker no longer Spider-Man? The death of Wolverine? Thor is no longer worthy?....okay, right -_-

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#104 Posted by Transformers1024 (1967 posts) - - Show Bio

I still like this idea more than New 52 Wally West. Although we ALL know this female Thor will last as long as Superior Spider-Man, Death of Wolverine, and the new Captain America.

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#105 Posted by Teerack (6452 posts) - - Show Bio

Just thinking about Thor's personality inside that new body makes me find her super adorable :3

#106 Posted by HolySerpent (12547 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: you should be happy

@xwraith:

“The inscription on Thor’s hammer reads ‘Whosoever holds this hammer, if HE be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.’ Well it’s time to update that inscription,” Marvel editor Wil Moss said in a release. “The new Thor continues Marvel’s proud tradition of strong female characters like Captain Marvel, Storm, Black Widow and more. And this new Thor isn’t a temporary female substitute – she’s now the one and only Thor, and she is worthy!”

-Time Magazine

#107 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2827 posts) - - Show Bio

So what happened to THOR ODINSON? Is he just, like gone?

#108 Edited by Petey_is_Spidey (2827 posts) - - Show Bio

@wardishy said:

Marvel's Big Three?

That's funny, I thought they had a big two - Spider-Man and Wolverine.

#109 Edited by Dernman (15129 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't we have Valkyrie, Sif and now Angela for this Marvel WATH THE F@#K. Don't try to make this a god baised concept this is a lame excuse for gender equality.

Don't forget that the All-Father were replaced with the All-Mothers, Loki now being both male/female, and Asgard was replaced with Asgardia.

Seems Marvel is flipping the switch in the Thor universe.

#111 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (1750 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Currently I'm reading Flash, Superman, Justice Leauge. I'm looking for something like maybe some other Superman comic cause the art in solo run I'm currently reading is a little annoying lol. Anything you suggest, will be fine. I want to look at as many options as possible.

It'd be awesome if you could suggest some street level heroes as well. I just realized I barely even read any comics with them

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#112 Edited by kleo_94 (90 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, well, the best thing I can do now is wait for the new Winter Soldier ongoing. As DC disappointed me with the New 52 (and Grayson, geez, DC), now Marvel is doing about the same. Apart from that, I think it's about time to turn back and read old, good DC and Marvel. And wait for this shit going on to calm down. It will, eventually... Hopefully.

#113 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9310 posts) - - Show Bio

That is the type of woman I like!

#114 Posted by Teerack (6452 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder if this means will get to see an All-Mother Thor in those flash backs :o

#115 Posted by Joygirl (20004 posts) - - Show Bio

@teerack: Not gonna be Thor's personality, it's a whole new character "named" Thor. And since she is a *cue music* STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAAAN! she probably won't be any fun at all.

#116 Posted by Teerack (6452 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@teerack: Not gonna be Thor's personality, it's a whole new character "named" Thor. And since she is a *cue music* STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAAAN! she probably won't be any fun at all.

You don't know my type!

#117 Posted by MarcosVergara14 (450 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

@marcosvergara14 said:

Don't we have Valkyrie, Sif and now Angela for this Marvel WATH THE F@#K. Don't try to make this a god baised concept this is a lame excuse for gender equality.

Don't forget that the All-Father were replaced with the All-Mothers, Loki now being both male/female, and Asgard was replaced with Asgardia.

Seems Marvel is flipping the switch in the Thor universe.

House of Ideas MY ASS. Marvel's office: "Let's kill Wolverine and make an event with 3D covers", "Turn Steve Rogers old and make the lame Flacon the next Captian America", "Turn Loki from a Badass villian to an Anti-heroe beacuse the movie says he is missunderstood" and so on FU&@%G "GREAT, ALL NEW ALL DIFERENT CHARACTERS" EVERYBODY

#118 Posted by HolySerpent (12547 posts) - - Show Bio

People need to start reading valiant comics

#119 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9310 posts) - - Show Bio

Sandwich forged with the mighty Mjölnir!!!!!

#120 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33495 posts) - - Show Bio

#shockerwasright

#121 Posted by Mangakid1995 (203 posts) - - Show Bio

Well this is a surprise. Jason Aaron is writing it? Ok I'm sold. So what's happening to Thor Odinson? He's not going anywhere? They're giving him Jarnbajorn, and he's going to be around to fight the Red Skulls Red Onslaught. Ok I'm fine with that.

#122 Edited by FearTheLiving (3156 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm okay with them doing this, but calling her Thor is a little odd. Thor is his name not a title so calling her that would be strange.

As to the people complaining before reading a single issue about this new character taking the reins or what happens to Thor Odinson.

What else is new?

#123 Posted by 2cool4fun (1368 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel is Calling Iron Man Captain America & Thor their big 3? How cute, I mean come on marvel. You literally just took the 3 heroes closest to DC's trinity & are forcing them to be your trinity, not to mention that they are taking the one that is similar to WW and making him into a chick...

How are these guys so ahead of DC, someone please explain...

#124 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (924 posts) - - Show Bio

WHY,WHY, why do you change your best characters Marvel, why? First Captain America, then wolverine without healing factor, now Thor, why can´t you just let the characters be who they are supposed to be. Instead of atracting new readers with this, you are going to make many readers leave the title

#125 Posted by AlKusanagi (605 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki got turned into a woman for a while, so why not Thor.

And it can't be anyone other than Angela, otherwise what's the point of the whole "Thor's sister" silliness of tying her into Asgard?

Either way, I'm sure it'll have a massive and meaningful impact on Marvel for years to come, just like Wolverine's, Johnny Storm's, Steve Rogers', and Peter Parker's deaths.

#127 Posted by 2cool4fun (1368 posts) - - Show Bio
#128 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman: That's totally the same feeling I got too. This reeks of editorial influence which can always have negative consequences. With the way Aaron was writing his title e.g. introducing a new love interest for Thor, setting up The League of Realms, teasing a Nine Realms War, this move flies flat in the face of Aaron's initial build up.

I'm not knowledgeable on Thor Girl so I could be wrong but the description sounded a lot like Thor. Either that or Marvel are really following through on their plans to tie Angela into the Marvel Universe.

Feminism is pulled up too often nowadays. And it's usually done in a cheap, veiled execution too. As is this PR stunt hidden behind promoting female superheroes.

Well she's called War sometimes but I agree, it doesn't change the fact that Thor is Thor's name, not an identity to be passed along. I can't see Aaron calling this new character Thor which is even more evidence of female influence.

Technically, Mjolnir amps his weather manipulation powers by a lot but there are numerous showings where Thor has used his weather control without it. I have the feeling the Thor creative team might overlook this though. Which is stupid on their end.

#129 Posted by abaldo (557 posts) - - Show Bio

EXCITED!!

#130 Edited by Wardishy (717 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel is Calling Iron Man Captain America & Thor their big 3? How cute, I mean come on marvel. You literally just took the 3 heroes closest to DC's trinity & are forcing them to be your trinity, not to mention that they are taking the one that is similar to WW and making him into a chick...

How are these guys so ahead of DC, someone please explain...

I had a similar thought, but I didn't even think of the Wonder Woman comparison...

#131 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2827 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

OK now I've got my gif related disbelief at the inanity and ridiculousness Marvel have pulled yet again, I'll make some damn points about this gender change. This is beyond ridiculous from Marvel that it isn't even funny, it's just a pathetic marketing gimmick designed for shock value and cash grabbing. Not only do Marvel make the mistake to remove Steve Rogers from the position of Captain America just to put a temporary Falcon in place for a token's character sake, they now have the misguided notion to promote the opposite gender by replacing Thor's brilliantly written series by Jason Aaron. So I guess Tony's brother Arno is going to be the new Iron Man because Marvel's reasons are sooo enlightened on these matters. Another thing I'm annoyed about is Thor being found unworthy. That really ticks me off about this news. Thor's gone through growth and development as a character over the years and whilst he has flaws, Aaron has done an excellent job explaining why Thor is worthy to wield Mjolnir. Pulling this stunt demeans Thor's character badly.

I was really enjoying Aaron's Thor series too, undoubtedly one of Marvel's best, consistently well written titles that is one of the best things to happen to The God of Thunder. And now the editors have gotten in the way with this hair brained scheme at promoting 'gender equality.' If I was directly addressing the Thor creative team and editors who seem to want gender equality in the Thor line, this is what I'd say. Make a damn effort to promote Thor's female support cast; Jane Foster, Roz Solomon, Lady Sif, Valkyrie, hell even Angela since you're bringing her in (and I have the feeling Angela is going to be the new Thor now.) Believe me when I say female characters need more promotion and treatment in comics but make them new characters or flesh out the old ones you have. Don't shoe horn a female character into a male hero's position as, at the end of the day, she's still defined by the male character, not her own legacy. And that point is the real nail in the coffin for Marvel's misguided attempts at promoting gender diversity; that the new female Thor will still be defined by being a female version of Thor in the first place. Call me old fashioned if you will but I like Captain America as Steve Rogers, Tony Stark as Iron Man and Thor Odinson as Thor. These shoehorned replacements can never match the quality or history that the originals have. You can't beat the originals as they say.

Since Thor was on the cover of that Avengers time out issue with Jarnbjorn, I'm hoping that Aaron will still be working on Thor's series since he is still the God of Thunder. And it really ticks me off beyond belief that the solicit says "And this new Thor isn't a temporary female substitute - she's now the one and only Thor, and she is worthy!” Don't lie or kid yourselves Marvel, you know you'll give Thor Mjolnir back within the year. Just like Superior Spider-Man, Bucky as Captain America, Wolverine being dead etc. If Aaron still has a separate Thor series to go alongside the female Thor, I might read that. If not, I'm done with Marvel for the time being. Thor: GOT was the only Marvel series I was reading and if I have to read female Thor to see what's going on with male Thor, I'm not having it at all.

Finally, I hope the feminists and pushers for women to have greater roles in comics don't jump down my throat by proclaiming this a hate speech. It's an impassioned plea to Marvel pointing out the errors of their ways and, whilst it is just one opinion, is probably going to be shared by loads of die hard Thor fans too. If people like this then...good for you I guess, it's your call. But I most certainly do not. And I support a greater diversity in female leads such as Captain Marvel, Ms Marvel, Wonder Woman etc in comics. I just don't see the plausibility or sensibility in this foolish temporary change for the sake of change that is being proclaimed here. Cast this as an angry rant if you must but at least it'll be a rant where I've made some critical and fair points of this ostentatious change. That will be reverted in a year as all other Marvel changes are.

/endpost.

Well put. It's like when they turned Wally West black(I'm black, just to put it out there); instead of inroducing new characters or promote smaller female/black characters, they go the lazy route and change a character entirely.

#132 Posted by Dondarrion (49 posts) - - Show Bio

At least Thor in his original form still exists, he'll get the hammer back eventually. I'm for this. Fans demand changes in the status quo and then when it happens they have a conniption.

And lol at the DC fans leveling criticism at Marvel after what their favorite company did to Wally West. This change can be backtracked, and the old status quo can be restored if this venture flops. The Wally change will never be backtracked, especially with the Flash show including a black Wally as well.

Yeeeaaah, Some how I don't think it's the Thor fans that have been asking for change, moreso the invisible demographic of females that are lining up to buy comics and would happily buy Thor comics if only she had tits.

If Thor (Odinson (wow that's so stupid, naming her Thor)) doesn't get his own title, I'm just done with Marvel.

#133 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Currently I'm reading Flash, Superman, Justice Leauge. I'm looking for something like maybe some other Superman comic cause the art in solo run I'm currently reading is a little annoying lol. Anything you suggest, will be fine. I want to look at as many options as possible.

It'd be awesome if you could suggest some street level heroes as well. I just realized I barely even read any comics with them

If it's street level DC books you're looking for, the best bet might be in the Bat universe. Scott Snyder's Batman is highly acclaimed though I'd wait till after Zero Year finishes. Detective Comics is also shaping up to be a solid street level book so maybe that'll work. Grayson is another candidate mixing an espionage super spy tale with the superhero formula. I'm looking forward to reading that myself.

Sadly I can't offer any jump on Superman titles outside of Johns' Superman which you're reading. Maybe trades of Morrison's Action Comics run might appeal to you. Or you can get the deluxe Superman Unchained trade which comes out in October. That's been one of the best Superman stories in The New 52.

#134 Edited by ShadowSwordmaster (14585 posts) - - Show Bio

After some time thinking about I'm going to wait and read the first issue when comes out or at least check the reviews for the first issue .

#135 Edited by mrdecepticonleader (18099 posts) - - Show Bio

This is daft. Why don't they just make new female characters or give an established female character their own series.

#136 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: you should be happy

@xwraith:

“The inscription on Thor’s hammer reads ‘Whosoever holds this hammer, if HE be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.’ Well it’s time to update that inscription,” Marvel editor Wil Moss said in a release. “The new Thor continues Marvel’s proud tradition of strong female characters like Captain Marvel, Storm, Black Widow and more. And this new Thor isn’t a temporary female substitute – she’s now the one and only Thor, and she is worthy!”

-Time Magazine

My lividity with Marvel for this foolishness has reached new levels as a result :/

#137 Edited by MarcosVergara14 (450 posts) - - Show Bio

THIS IS...

#138 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (1750 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I'll definitely pick up Superman Unchained. Also, I'm a little bit shocked on how I didn't think of Batman lol. Thanks :)

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#139 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@petey_is_spidey: Thank you, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Laziness and unoriginality coupled with building up false hype.

#140 Posted by Chibi_cute (4547 posts) - - Show Bio

So thor does experience menstrual periods now,? 0_0

#141 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6304 posts) - - Show Bio

@petey_is_spidey: That's hardly the same thing. Wally West was actually changed, whereas Thor is just being replaced.

#142 Posted by Rubear (489 posts) - - Show Bio

@jyger85 said:

@rubear: Something wrong with a girl being Thor?

*Facepalm*
Thor is not mantle, like Batman or Spiderman or Captain America or Wolverine. Thor is name. Man's name.

#143 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I'll definitely pick up Superman Unchained. Also, I'm a little bit shocked on how I didn't think of Batman lol. Thanks :)

I do find Snyder's Batman to be overrated but loads of people seem to like it so maybe you will too. And no problem, even if you don't like what I've suggested, it's better than what's on offer here -_-

#144 Posted by Mrfuzzynutz (1070 posts) - - Show Bio

hahaha Thor has been pissing Odin ever since Fear itself, he has it coming lol

You have to figure the revelation of Angela being his sister would have a big role in this story somehow.

I could care less if Thor is a female, I grew up with him being a frog, brittle bones, horse faced and shirtless. I am curious to see what this rookie will do when Thanos comes back.

Cuz the last rookie Thor that went against The Mad Titan was tossed into orbit, losses his hammer, and then got smashed into thousands of pieces...not a good showing at all lol

#145 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2638 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Thor was a woman in Earth X. :/

Also I'm kinda okay with it because of one thing. It's god stuff, hyper advanced magical stuff. Can be done easily enough and undone just as easily. It's not gonna last, I know that much. Also this COULD be Marvel's way of introducing Thor's daughter Thrudd from Norse mythology. NONE of his kids from myth have appeared in the mainstream universe, just Magni from The Reigning and he was undone when Thor stopped himself from ever taking over Earth.

I'm gonna give it a shot. Could be good, could be bad, but I'll still give it a shot.

#146 Posted by Lvenger (20058 posts) - - Show Bio

@v_scarlotte_rose: I know you've been an advocate for more female characters getting roles in comics but surely this isn't what you wanted right?

#147 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (1750 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@unbreakable_fs4 said:

@lvenger: I'll definitely pick up Superman Unchained. Also, I'm a little bit shocked on how I didn't think of Batman lol. Thanks :)

I do find Snyder's Batman to be overrated but loads of people seem to like it so maybe you will too. And no problem, even if you don't like what I've suggested, it's better than what's on offer here -_-

Lmao in that case I'll avoid it. Thanks for the warning.

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#148 Edited by ALdragon17 (126 posts) - - Show Bio

This is too much of a cash grab to me. Oh my god, I was watching some news and they think its progressive thing. Yes, its okay to target market, but if you alienate your base. You still lose, all you doing is a shell game. Nowadays, I don't pick up any Marvel, once they start doing things to x-men, I figure something wrong here. I like for woman to become powerful, right here is your borrowing someone else spot light and you can not stand on your own; this is the message for me.

#149 Posted by God_Spawn (37908 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I also agree.

With that said, I'll be still happy to stick to my little X-corner of Marvel and GotG, my few DC and Indie books. Since Marvel has found a way to slash my pull list in half with them mutilating the Big 3, and Wolverine, I can expand my Indie list quite a bit more now. At least until the next year when Avengers 2 comes out and everything gets quickly rammed together to fit the movie.

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#150 Posted by detective38 (180 posts) - - Show Bio

This member of the "big three" now has their own big two! ;-)