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Posted by G-Man (34325 posts) - - Show Bio

This week we saw Death of the Family creep into RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS. If you read the issue and TEEN TITANS #14, you know Joker already has captured both Tim Drake and Jason Todd. With these two occupied and at the mercy of Joker's crazy scheme, it looks like it's up to Roy Harper to take charge of both the Outlaws and Teen Titans.

Check out our exclusive preview for TEEN TITANS #15, on sale January 2, 2013.

TEEN TITANS #15

• A “DEATH OF THE FAMILY” tie-in!
• Red Hood and Red Robin team up against The Joker!
• Will Arsenal take over the Titans?
• Guest-starring Batgirl!

Written by: Scott Lobdell

Art by: Brett Booth, Norm Rapmund

Cover by: Greg Capullo

Variant Cover by: Brett Booth, Mark Irwin

Color/B&W: Color

Page Count: 32

U.S. Price: 2.99

On Sale Date: Jan 2 2013

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#1 Posted by knightofthechronicle (689 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't wait, love seeing Brett Booth back on art.

#2 Posted by NightFang (10068 posts) - - Show Bio

@knightofthechronicle said:

Can't wait, love seeing Brett Booth back on art.

Love his art work.

#3 Posted by bob808 (6775 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't wait to read it.

#4 Posted by darknightspideyfanboy (1266 posts) - - Show Bio

the art work look nice

#5 Posted by Ironhawk22 (320 posts) - - Show Bio

Well...well that was really really bad. That first page was filled with horribly written exposition "But I don't dream. I scheme."

#6 Posted by Ironhawk22 (320 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait...WOH! Fabian wrote the dialogue! Fabian tends to write really good dialogue especially for Tim, but that dialogue... Dang! Maybe Lobdell's plotting is to blame, but the dialogue for Babs and Tim is really bad. Still I hope he gets to take over the book with no Lobdell and Marcus To as the artist.

#7 Posted by Zoch81 (259 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks great can't wait to read it

#8 Posted by arnoldoaad (1007 posts) - - Show Bio

wow, Batgirl sounds way more unlikable than in her own book, thats an accomplishment

seriously i dont get the snark, she has been way more childish now than ever and she is just 21, the TT are 16-18 so therefore they are the Icarly crew, what?

#9 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ironhawk22 said:

Well...well that was really really bad. That first page was filled with horribly written exposition "But I don't dream. I scheme."

It's all part of the plan....

#10 Posted by Outside_85 (9032 posts) - - Show Bio

@arnoldoaad: Well at least you are only distracted by that...unlike me who is trying to figure out what exactly those shock pads do.

#11 Posted by dondave (37463 posts) - - Show Bio

Booth's cover should have been used

#12 Posted by iaconpoint (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

What's icarly?

#13 Posted by Outside_85 (9032 posts) - - Show Bio

@iaconpoint: Forgotten in a year or three most likely.

#14 Posted by Inverno (13221 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I the only one who thinks the new Joker looks awful?

#15 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14698 posts) - - Show Bio

#16 Posted by SmashBrawler (5736 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat said:

Am I the only one who thinks the new Joker looks awful?

It sucks.

#17 Posted by Cavemold (1682 posts) - - Show Bio

Is WG shirt about to come off.??

#18 Posted by DEGRAAF (7881 posts) - - Show Bio

@iaconpoint said:

What's icarly?

lol its a pre-teens show. I dont know much about it i just would se commercials for it during commercials while watching Saturday morning cartoons

#19 Posted by BR_Havoc (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

#20 Posted by MaxSchreck (99 posts) - - Show Bio

Not really a fan of Booths art to be honest ....

#21 Posted by arcano_19 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

i want them to stay together and be all titans like starfire and arsenal to train them

#22 Posted by doordoor123 (3721 posts) - - Show Bio

@arnoldoaad said:

wow, Batgirl sounds way more unlikable than in her own book, thats an accomplishment

seriously i dont get the snark, she has been way more childish now than ever and she is just 21, the TT are 16-18 so therefore they are the Icarly crew, what?

Yeah, I don't understand how people can be so rude... oh wait....

#23 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

I got something better...

:P

#24 Posted by Inverno (13221 posts) - - Show Bio

@BR_Havoc said:

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

I see. Maybe that is the point, he is making him so spooky until its impossible to take him seriously anymore.

#25 Posted by cameron83 (7338 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat: how does he look awful...the only difference is the face,but it's not permanent...

Its just for a story arc

#26 Posted by sentryman555 (771 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83 said:

@CaioTrubat: how does he look awful...the only difference is the face,but it's not permanent...

Its just for a story arc

his face has been skinned off. How is that not permanent?

Personally, I actually like the dialogue in this preview. Though I'm disappointed it opens with Batgirl instead of Arsenal. Makes me think him and starfire won't show up till the end or something.

#27 Posted by Hastny (59 posts) - - Show Bio

Like the art. But that dialouge is really horrid.

#28 Edited by TheMess1428 (2176 posts) - - Show Bio

Why isn't Fabian Nicieza's name on the cover? Or in the description? What the hell?!

@Cavemold said:

Is WG shirt about to come off.??

Her shirt isn't even close to coming off. Get your mind out of the gutter...

#29 Posted by ME24601 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hastny: Scott Lobdel has no idea about how to write these characters.

#30 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2638 posts) - - Show Bio

@BR_Havoc said:

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

Not the first time it's happened. The Arkham games did that a lot. Scarecrow= Freddy Kruger, Zsasz = Ghost Face, Riddler = Jigsaw from Saw

#31 Posted by MizariSeth (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't like the cover. But I will get this.

#32 Posted by TheJokerha (161 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat I'm eagerly and impatiently looking forward to Joker getting his face back to normal and to purple suit up. Maybe a nice Armani or his classic tux.

#33 Posted by Jake Fury (18643 posts) - - Show Bio

Love Booth's art so very much.

#34 Posted by GothamRed (2563 posts) - - Show Bio

Does that first splash page of babara look weird to anyone else?

#35 Posted by SiycoBat (157 posts) - - Show Bio

@arnoldoaad: Yeah, I thought that was a little tasteless too on the "iCarly" remark. I would have expected that kind of comment from Red Hood and Damian but Barbara?

#36 Edited by Red_Robin212 (91 posts) - - Show Bio

looking forward to this I love both Characters (3 if you count Joker)

But looks like I have to double dip again (My comic shop that does my orders only tend to get cover A).

I HATE the mask covers, I want the badass artwork, Especially THAT cover

#37 Posted by BR_Havoc (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

Not the first time it's happened. The Arkham games did that a lot. Scarecrow= Freddy Kruger, Zsasz = Ghost Face, Riddler = Jigsaw from Saw

Yes you are very right but at least in the games they still feel like the character. I mean to me Freeze is Norman Bates in a freeze suit the new one has none of the character of Victor. With the Joker I see it being very similar Joker is now very one dimensional by taking his unpredictability he is now just focused and its kill kill kill give him a chainsaw and he is Leatherface.

Hope the point I am trying to say makes sense?

#38 Posted by sparty-dbq (803 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat said:

Am I the only one who thinks the new Joker looks awful?

I just don't like that he's been wearing a lame mechanic's onesie through this whole thing so far. Where's the purple suit?

#39 Posted by arnoldoaad (1007 posts) - - Show Bio

@ME24601 said:

@Hastny: Scott Lobdel has no idea about how to write these characters.

which is probably why Nicieza is writing the dialog

im ok if you want to critize anything but at least criticize the right ones

#40 Posted by KnightofSteel (255 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice! Booth and Rapmund...one solid art team there.

#41 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ironhawk22:

#42 Posted by X9 (757 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeey!

#43 Posted by kid Apollo (714 posts) - - Show Bio

i really like BB's art, if only he had to time to do more books, id buy a lote more of DC's stuff

#44 Posted by Ironhawk22 (320 posts) - - Show Bio

Very clever!

@evilvegeta74 said:

@Ironhawk22:

#45 Posted by DanteTheRedKnight (114 posts) - - Show Bio

Instead of ruining the Teen Titans, they could have made this a Red Robin series.

#46 Posted by Zeeguy91 (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

@BR_Havoc said:

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

Not the first time it's happened. The Arkham games did that a lot. Scarecrow= Freddy Kruger, Zsasz = Ghost Face, Riddler = Jigsaw from Saw

Yes you are very right but at least in the games they still feel like the character. I mean to me Freeze is Norman Bates in a freeze suit the new one has none of the character of Victor. With the Joker I see it being very similar Joker is now very one dimensional by taking his unpredictability he is now just focused and its kill kill kill give him a chainsaw and he is Leatherface.

Hope the point I am trying to say makes sense?

Except that Joker is actually doing all of this for a reason. He'd be one-dimensional if he was simply saying that he wanted to kill all of Batman's friends because he's evil and that's all he does. I haven't read any of the Death of the Family stuff except for Batman, Detective, and Nightwing, but Scott's made it kind of clear that Joker has a motive behind this onslaught.

#47 Posted by BR_Havoc (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zeeguy91 said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

Not the first time it's happened. The Arkham games did that a lot. Scarecrow= Freddy Kruger, Zsasz = Ghost Face, Riddler = Jigsaw from Saw

Yes you are very right but at least in the games they still feel like the character. I mean to me Freeze is Norman Bates in a freeze suit the new one has none of the character of Victor. With the Joker I see it being very similar Joker is now very one dimensional by taking his unpredictability he is now just focused and its kill kill kill give him a chainsaw and he is Leatherface.

Hope the point I am trying to say makes sense?

Except that Joker is actually doing all of this for a reason. He'd be one-dimensional if he was simply saying that he wanted to kill all of Batman's friends because he's evil and that's all he does. I haven't read any of the Death of the Family stuff except for Batman, Detective, and Nightwing, but Scott's made it kind of clear that Joker has a motive behind this onslaught.

So far the Joker has been extremely one dimensional during the Death of the family arc. Snyder is a talented writer but one thing he does not do well is develop characters. The Joker lost his unpredictability the thing that made him scary no matter what he has always had a motive to do the things he does. Snyder here took much of the characters personality away to attempt to make him scarier my problem with that is he is no longer the Joker he is Leatherface.

#48 Posted by Zeeguy91 (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

@BR_Havoc said:

@Zeeguy91 said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

Not the first time it's happened. The Arkham games did that a lot. Scarecrow= Freddy Kruger, Zsasz = Ghost Face, Riddler = Jigsaw from Saw

Yes you are very right but at least in the games they still feel like the character. I mean to me Freeze is Norman Bates in a freeze suit the new one has none of the character of Victor. With the Joker I see it being very similar Joker is now very one dimensional by taking his unpredictability he is now just focused and its kill kill kill give him a chainsaw and he is Leatherface.

Hope the point I am trying to say makes sense?

Except that Joker is actually doing all of this for a reason. He'd be one-dimensional if he was simply saying that he wanted to kill all of Batman's friends because he's evil and that's all he does. I haven't read any of the Death of the Family stuff except for Batman, Detective, and Nightwing, but Scott's made it kind of clear that Joker has a motive behind this onslaught.

So far the Joker has been extremely one dimensional during the Death of the family arc. Snyder is a talented writer but one thing he does not do well is develop characters. The Joker lost his unpredictability the thing that made him scary no matter what he has always had a motive to do the things he does. Snyder here took much of the characters personality away to attempt to make him scarier my problem with that is he is no longer the Joker he is Leatherface.

Um...some facts would be appreciated. I know this is a comic book website, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't back up their statements with fact instead of pure opinion. How has the Joker been less unpredictable? And, on a related note, how does one measure unpredictability? If anything, Scott's added to his unpredictable nature by indicating that he may have known Bruce and the entire Bat-family's secret identities for years and never let on that he did.

And I'm not saying he never had a motive for his actions, but that like before he has a motive now for what he's doing. The comparison to Leatherface is also incredibly inaccurate. The two are completely different characters that actually look to have nothing in common.

#49 Posted by BR_Havoc (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zeeguy91 said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@Zeeguy91 said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

@BR_Havoc said:

@CaioTrubat: Nope I agree 100 percent. I think Snyder just watches horror movies and goes hey yeah I am going to make a Batman villain just like that. I mean Joker (Leatherface) Freeze (Norman Bates).

Not the first time it's happened. The Arkham games did that a lot. Scarecrow= Freddy Kruger, Zsasz = Ghost Face, Riddler = Jigsaw from Saw

Yes you are very right but at least in the games they still feel like the character. I mean to me Freeze is Norman Bates in a freeze suit the new one has none of the character of Victor. With the Joker I see it being very similar Joker is now very one dimensional by taking his unpredictability he is now just focused and its kill kill kill give him a chainsaw and he is Leatherface.

Hope the point I am trying to say makes sense?

Except that Joker is actually doing all of this for a reason. He'd be one-dimensional if he was simply saying that he wanted to kill all of Batman's friends because he's evil and that's all he does. I haven't read any of the Death of the Family stuff except for Batman, Detective, and Nightwing, but Scott's made it kind of clear that Joker has a motive behind this onslaught.

So far the Joker has been extremely one dimensional during the Death of the family arc. Snyder is a talented writer but one thing he does not do well is develop characters. The Joker lost his unpredictability the thing that made him scary no matter what he has always had a motive to do the things he does. Snyder here took much of the characters personality away to attempt to make him scarier my problem with that is he is no longer the Joker he is Leatherface.

Um...some facts would be appreciated. I know this is a comic book website, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't back up their statements with fact instead of pure opinion. How has the Joker been less unpredictable? And, on a related note, how does one measure unpredictability? If anything, Scott's added to his unpredictable nature by indicating that he may have known Bruce and the entire Bat-family's secret identities for years and never let on that he did.

And I'm not saying he never had a motive for his actions, but that like before he has a motive now for what he's doing. The comparison to Leatherface is also incredibly inaccurate. The two are completely different characters that actually look to have nothing in common.

In a TV mini series called Inked comic legends Dennis O'neil and Neil Adams both state that what makes the Joker such a great villain is that you do not know what he is going to do next. If you met him in a dark alley he could tell you a joke (Via Killing Joke) or he could cut your throat. This focused Joker has none of that in him, he is just death and destruction his mind is one tracked and he not once had any of the sick humor that the character is know for having, Every character he meet from Harley to Nightwing its let me kick the crap out of them. This story arc has made Batman look very stupid and that he has never once learned anything from previous battles with the Joker making the character of Bruce Wayne and Batman both shallow and one dimensional.

How is the comparison to LeatherFace inaccurate are you saying its not painfully obvious that Joker new face mask look is not based off of the horror icon? Also lets see Leatherface is also a psychopath with his own motives that is incredibly focused in bring death and destruction so how is this not a fair comparison?

#50 Posted by wessaari (623 posts) - - Show Bio

it is this detail and precision of awesomeness that is needed on books such as RHTO, please Booth. Come to hoodies, we will buy you snacks