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Posted by G-Man (37753 posts) - - Show Bio

Villains Month continues and in the next SUPERMAN issue, we get to find out what happened to H'el after the H'el on Earth storyline. He wanted to save Krypton but ended up back on Krypton, in the past. This is a great use of the villains books as it gives us more closure and continues his story rather than tell an origin we may already know.

SUPERMAN #23.3 H'EL

After his last battle with Superman, H’el wakes up on Krypton years before it is destroyed! Can H’el manipulate the Science Counsel, soldiers and countless others including Jor-El, to save the planet? And what does it mean for the birth of Superman if he succeeds?

Written by: Scott Lobdell

Art by: Dan Jurgens

Cover by: Gene Ha

Color/B&W: Color

Page Count: 32

U.S. Price: 3.99

On Sale Date: Sep 18 2013

#1 Edited by _ANDY_CAN (259 posts) - - Show Bio

nice intro

#2 Edited by regrivett (50 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I the only one that doesn't really care about H'el?

#3 Edited by Tchokes (87 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome to see H'el get some more spotlight!

I am very, very intrigued to see what they are going to do with him, as he is not the "Rawr, rawr, must kill sh!t!" kind of villain. I wonder where his journey will lead him.

Also... I am kinda curious why they do not ditch the inverted symbol on his chest. I mean... it could have been a horrible burn scar he has from his times floating about on space or something, but everyone and their mother knows the truth behind it and DC's doubts on making him n52's Bizarro or not.

Anyways, awesome news! Uhul!

#4 Posted by anandak47 (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott Lobdell has been improving his Superman writing off late, cant say the same about his teen titans writing though :P

#5 Posted by bunkerbuster05 (316 posts) - - Show Bio

I just haven't been a fan of Lobdell's New 52 stories. Teen Titans being the worst offender.

Seeing these 5 pages doesn't make me want to get this. I do appreciate the preview, though.

#6 Edited by Mulder15 (332 posts) - - Show Bio

@regrivett: Nope I'm with you. This issue doesn't really interest me at all.

#7 Posted by Saint_Wildcard (11748 posts) - - Show Bio

@anandak47: I never had a problem with him on Superman, and I'm looking forward to his Parasite issue. It looks sick.

#8 Edited by G_Money_Christmas (884 posts) - - Show Bio

I wasn't going to get this but I liked H'El so I might pick it up. I might not either

#9 Posted by Trevel8182 (754 posts) - - Show Bio

I just haven't been a fan of Lobdell's New 52 stories. Teen Titans being the worst offender.

Seeing these 5 pages doesn't make me want to get this. I do appreciate the preview, though.

Agreed!

#10 Edited by MisterNefarious (56 posts) - - Show Bio

@regrivett: I couldn't care less about H'el.

The New 52 is over-saturated with Kryptonians. Old 52 was too, but at least that happened over a long period of time. Here it's "Boo hoo, my planet is dead" then five minutes later "Oh wait, there's like twenty of us here! No more boo hoo!"

Being the "Last Son of Krypton" is supposed to be an important thing to Superman... And H'el is part of the problem plaguing him.

#11 Posted by Z3RO180 (6670 posts) - - Show Bio

I like H'El but come on DC ditch the inverted S shield on his chest

#12 Posted by ColonelRunAway (370 posts) - - Show Bio

Hatred. Pure, undeniable hatred.

#13 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

Hatred. Pure, undeniable hatred.

So you're looking forward to this one then?

#14 Posted by saoakden (1075 posts) - - Show Bio

The issue looks interesting, i'm picking it up.

#15 Edited by comicbookfan93 (422 posts) - - Show Bio

I just don't like H'el I tried H'el on earth and I hated it I even forced myself to finish it to see if it would get any better but it didn't and now I hate H'el as a character

#16 Posted by Supreme_Maj (301 posts) - - Show Bio

Aaaaaaaaah at last this seems to be a better story than those villains month which have been edited so fare i'm waiting for this

#17 Posted by patrat18 (10693 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott Lobdell has been improving his Superman writing off late, cant say the same about his teen titans writing though :P

true.

#18 Posted by The Stegman (25526 posts) - - Show Bio

@regrivett: Nope, I don't give two Krypto Craps about H'el

#19 Posted by Dabee (2399 posts) - - Show Bio

I really liked H'el on Earth a lot, can't wait for an unexpected epilogue! Should be good!

#20 Edited by dondave (38808 posts) - - Show Bio

@dabee said:

I really liked H'el on Earth a lot, can't wait for an unexpected epilogue! Should be good!

#21 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

Good solid Dan Jurgens art!

#22 Posted by Herokiller12344 (999 posts) - - Show Bio

@regrivett said:

Am I the only one that doesn't really care about H'el?

Oh no, I'm with you. Who cares? Plus aren't there dozens of other villains that should get some time over freaking H'el, who, may I remind you, already had an Arc?

#23 Posted by CrimsonAlchemist (410 posts) - - Show Bio

H'el is awesome but i think it's a bit too soon.

#25 Posted by Saren (26026 posts) - - Show Bio
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#26 Posted by timelord (806 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to see more of Krypton so will pick up this book just for that. And If he manipulates Kara again I may stab someone.

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#27 Posted by Superbat420 (253 posts) - - Show Bio

@regrivett: nope haven't read one thing about Him.

#28 Posted by Superbat420 (253 posts) - - Show Bio

I see hel being a clone of jor el. I mean why not? Dc loves clone story's considering superman has 3 already in the new 52...

#30 Posted by Fantasgasmic (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I the only one that doesn't really care about H'el?

nope

#31 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm curious to learn more about H'el however, he kind of seems like another "Zod" somewhat if you know what I mean with the whole "they chose to save Earth over Krypton blah, blah, blah"

#32 Posted by JLDoom (2310 posts) - - Show Bio

Unlike others I like Lobdell's Superman but I really really don't care about H'el so I'm not getting this.

#33 Edited by Outside_85 (9977 posts) - - Show Bio

While I don't have any intention of starting to read this (either), I agree with those who feels that the DCU is getting over-satuated with Kryptonians. We have Superman, Supergirl, (1/3, or something) Superboy, Zod+2 cronies, Cyborg Supeman, H'El, Bizarro (kinda) along with a few alternate-reality Kryptonians that's active at any one point of time like Ultraman, that future son of Superman that TT is going to run into, the robot-thing and President Superman Morrison used and all those Supermen Darkseid has been killing.

So when are all these bad Supermen going to unite and take over the world in the blink of an eye?

#34 Edited by Justthatkid (4650 posts) - - Show Bio

Reason numero uno I like H'EL he looks like Broly and just reminds me of him.

#35 Posted by jwalser3 (5261 posts) - - Show Bio

We get it DC. His name sounds like "hell".

#37 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwalser3 said:

We get it DC. His name sounds like "hell".

Still waiting for "DC Presents: One H'el of a party"

#38 Posted by jwalser3 (5261 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwalser3 said:

We get it DC. His name sounds like "hell".

Still waiting for "DC Presents: One H'el of a party"

My sides

#39 Posted by ptigrusmagus (495 posts) - - Show Bio

The worst villains month cover so far. All their names look like they were done in MS Paint but this one looks especially bad. Also the Ha! signature location looks even worse.

#40 Posted by Reactor (2644 posts) - - Show Bio

While I don't have any intention of starting to read this (either), I agree with those who feels that the DCU is getting over-satuated with Kryptonians. We have Superman, Supergirl, (1/3, or something) Superboy, Zod+2 cronies, Cyborg Supeman, H'El, Bizarro (kinda) along with a few alternate-reality Kryptonians that's active at any one point of time like Ultraman, that future son of Superman that TT is going to run into, the robot-thing and President Superman Morrison used and all those Supermen Darkseid has been killing.

So when are all these bad Supermen going to unite and take over the world in the blink of an eye?

The New 52 has ten Kryptonians (Superman, Supergirl, Power Girl, the clone and original Superboys, Cyborg Superman, H'el, and Zod with Non and Faora. Post-Flashpoint DCU had - literally - thousands of Kryptonians, and then hundreds of them after the Hundred Minute War. Does ten really compare?

#41 Edited by Outside_85 (9977 posts) - - Show Bio

@reactor: There were only thousands 'active' for the year or so that New Krypton ran and almost all of them were wiped out.

#44 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

So psyched for this! Have been wanting to see how things have worked out for H'el ever since he got back to Krypton's past!

#46 Posted by Reactor (2644 posts) - - Show Bio

@reactor: There were only thousands 'active' for the year or so that New Krypton ran and almost all of them were wiped out.

Except for a few hundred out of about one hundred thousand. And even then, you're missing the point; there's only a fraction of Kryptonians now compared to how many there used to be.

And even then, there is the now dated and misapplied title attributed to Superman, "The Last Son of Krypton". That seems to be where the main complaint comes from - that Supes is suppose to be the last Kryptonian. Superman hasn't been the last Kryptonian for decades. Now I could understand the concern if Kryptonians saturated the entire DCU, but they're almost entirely restricted to the Superman family.

No one ever complains that there are too many gods in Wonder Woman, or too many Bat folks in Batman titles, or even too many Flashes (most of the time). Having some Kryptonians around is perfectly fine with me.

#48 Edited by Kal'smahboi (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@regrivett: Same here. His original story was very lackluster. I think they were trying to make him seem mysterious, but it was too much and I just wound up not caring.

He's also kind of an awful combination of Bizarro and Zod. Not really original...and not really well written.

#49 Posted by kidhero999 (48 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott Lobdell has been improving his Superman writing off late, cant say the same about his teen titans writing though :P

Scott Lobdell has not.

#50 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (6861 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks nice