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#1 Posted by Outside_85 (8970 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm, a 4th Kryptonian. Honestly while the book continues to look good... I'd really like to see it get back to focusing on Jay, Kendra and Alan.

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#2 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

CV's really killing it with the exclusives lately.

I've been meaning to start reading this book since Tom Taylor came on, may need to pick up the most recent arc in trade and get caught up.

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#3 Posted by patrat18 (9737 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks boss.

#4 Posted by SilverPool (1488 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm, a 4th Kryptonian. Honestly while the book continues to look good... I'd really like to see it get back to focusing on Jay, Kendra and Alan.

This.

Also, the cover with the two Batmans is... really bad looking

#5 Posted by micah (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

love Val-Zods costume, looks boss.

#6 Posted by cloudyimpulse (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Thought the flash could run on water.

#7 Posted by HolySerpent (12535 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Posted by Justthatkid (3830 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting story. How old is Val suppose to be?

#9 Posted by cloudyimpulse (11 posts) - - Show Bio

@cloudyimpulse: The Man of Steel broke his leg

Gotcha. Haven't read a lot of Earth 2. Thanks for the clarification.

#10 Edited by COBRAMORPH (1556 posts) - - Show Bio

Why? Earth-2 should have had either Artemis, Azrel & the electric superman as their Trinity, since in reality those 3 are the same as how Barry allen or Hal are to Jay Garrick & Alan Scott in, at the time, modern day reboots of golden age characters.

OR use similar characters like Captain Marvel, Blue Beetle , Phantom Lady for their Trinity.

Or if they wanted a black guy power house, use either Steel or ICON. What we do NOT need is DC/Marvel just creating new heroes using the same name. No one casual mainstream will ever know of this guy. He'll never get a movie. & even if he did, people will just think he is a fake impostor Superman. I mean, Cassandra Cain has been around for 15 years & has never been adapted. Linda Danvers was around for 18 years, & anyone who saw the DCAU just saw Kara the cousin of steel wearing a different outfit. In fact, that show actually created a third character, who has never been used since, even Galatea was a different character.

#11 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21841 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85 said:

Hmm, a 4th Kryptonian. Honestly while the book continues to look good... I'd really like to see it get back to focusing on Jay, Kendra and Alan.

This.

Yup. And I wish several plot lines weren't just ignored for the evil Superman story to work. How did Hawkgirl go from being trapped in a net to saving batman and company from the world army HQ? What ever happened to Barda and Fury? etc.

And it was been several issues bar the last one that we have even scene Jay.

#12 Posted by HolySerpent (12535 posts) - - Show Bio

One of my top books. Only reason it's getting hate is because it's not focusing on Jay, Alan or hawk girl. Man I can't wait for this issue

#13 Posted by HolySerpent (12535 posts) - - Show Bio

@silverpool said:

@outside_85 said:

Hmm, a 4th Kryptonian. Honestly while the book continues to look good... I'd really like to see it get back to focusing on Jay, Kendra and Alan.

This.

Yup. And I wish several plot lines weren't just ignored for the evil Superman story to work. How did Hawkgirl go from being trapped in a net to saving batman and company from the world army HQ? What ever happened to Barda and Fury? etc.

And it was been several issues bar the last one that we have even scene Jay.

Even though i want to i cant disagree with. that Hawkgirl plot has been bugging the hell out of me. but simple put the book is to small cover entire earth 2.

#14 Posted by Pperspectiveandreality (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the art. I should pick this title up

#15 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21841 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the art. I should pick this title up

If you do be sure to read it from the beginning

#16 Edited by ARMIV2 (8520 posts) - - Show Bio

Uggggggggghh...
So much is wrong with this.

#17 Posted by Pperspectiveandreality (1931 posts) - - Show Bio

@allstarsuperman:

After you introduced me to invincible your suggestions are gold to me.

#18 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21841 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Edited by inferiorego (24261 posts) - - Show Bio

Why? Earth-2 should have had either Artemis, Azrel & the electric superman as their Trinity, since in reality those 3 are the same as how Barry allen or Hal are to Jay Garrick & Alan Scott in, at the time, modern day reboots of golden age characters.

OR use similar characters like Captain Marvel, Blue Beetle , Phantom Lady for their Trinity.

Or if they wanted a black guy power house, use either Steel or ICON. What we do NOT need is DC/Marvel just creating new heroes using the same name. No one casual mainstream will ever know of this guy. He'll never get a movie. & even if he did, people will just think he is a fake impostor Superman. I mean, Cassandra Cain has been around for 15 years & has never been adapted. Linda Danvers was around for 18 years, & anyone who saw the DCAU just saw Kara the cousin of steel wearing a different outfit. In fact, that show actually created a third character, who has never been used since, even Galatea was a different character.

He's not new. He's from Grant Morisson's run of ACTION COMICS brought into on-going continuity.

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#20 Posted by micah (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder who the 4th Kryptonian is....

#21 Posted by Outside_85 (8970 posts) - - Show Bio

He's not new. He's from Grant Morisson's run of ACTION COMICS brought into on-going continuity.

No he's not :)

Morrisons President Superman was based on a world that was essentially 'race-bent', every character we have in the main DCU thats white was black. And better yet, he's supposedly one of the characters Morrison intends to return to during Multiversity.

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#22 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3515 posts) - - Show Bio

Kind of a contrived reason for him to be the new Superman, but I can look past it.

The only problems with this book is that they've forgotten several plot lines from before the new writer. I'm hoping that's what Earth 2: World's End is for. Basically to make it easier to write about an entire universe in one ongoing.

#23 Posted by Primebonnick (2121 posts) - - Show Bio

there is another kryptonian out there hmmmmmm.

#24 Edited by IDontLikeBirds (327 posts) - - Show Bio

I was hoping they would explain why he had the house of El crest on himself and not Zod. I always figured it would be a bit messed up to wear that symbol after all the destruction Superman/Brutaal was doing, and thought it would be a much cooler concept to have the Zod crest instead, and even call him something else. Understandable now why he'd keep it, but I think he should honor the Zod name as well.

I wish they would focus on some of the other characters too. I want to know what happened with The Red Lantern reference they did long ago, with Solomon Grundy, "Aquawoman's" origin, and also Fury.

#25 Posted by Nightian (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@cobramorph: I actually figured they were going to make Val-Zod into Icon. Like bring him in for the Earth 2 World End and have him become Icon after everything goes down. Or maybe even during!

#26 Posted by New_World_Order (13182 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah said:

I wonder who the 4th Kryptonian is....

#27 Posted by _ANDY_CAN (224 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish there wasn't another superman they could have used superman like characters like Icon. Apollo, Steel, Captain Atom, Orion, Captain Marvel, Omac, Dr. Fate etc. Dc has a lot of characters that are underused in their vault.

#28 Posted by IDontLikeBirds (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@cobramorph said:

Why? Earth-2 should have had either Artemis, Azrel & the electric superman as their Trinity, since in reality those 3 are the same as how Barry allen or Hal are to Jay Garrick & Alan Scott in, at the time, modern day reboots of golden age characters.

OR use similar characters like Captain Marvel, Blue Beetle , Phantom Lady for their Trinity.

Or if they wanted a black guy power house, use either Steel or ICON. What we do NOT need is DC/Marvel just creating new heroes using the same name. No one casual mainstream will ever know of this guy. He'll never get a movie. & even if he did, people will just think he is a fake impostor Superman. I mean, Cassandra Cain has been around for 15 years & has never been adapted. Linda Danvers was around for 18 years, & anyone who saw the DCAU just saw Kara the cousin of steel wearing a different outfit. In fact, that show actually created a third character, who has never been used since, even Galatea was a different character.

He's not new. He's from Grant Morisson's run of ACTION COMICS brought into on-going continuity.

No, no to a LOT of this. Electric Superman should have never existed.

You forget also that the trinity was also part of the JSA originally.

I like how you say no casual mainstreamer will know who Val Zod is, but act as though they would know who Steel or ICON is. And speaking of movies, remember that Steel movie?

#29 Posted by victorcheenoanleu (142 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah: watch it be some guy shiz like H'el or whatever that gay's name is.

#30 Edited by iceslick (783 posts) - - Show Bio

@cobramorph: Seriously what wrong with having a Black Superman? Racist much? Plus, there's a Black Spider-Man name Miles Morales which is awesome and pretty much has hold a title of his own and he has the best Ultimate series title out now and people have been pretty much forgotten about Peter Parker from that universe. People have well over accepted him taking the mantle. So, why not let DC have their own version of a "Miles Morales" like character? DC's Earth 2 is pretty much DC's Ultimate universe. Plus, we got enough white heroes in comics. Let's have an excuse to make more Black characters for diversity sake which we need.

EDIT: I even forgot that Miles is part of Ultimates now which is pretty much the equivalent of the Avengers in that universe. Too bad the All-New Ultimates series sucks, but that's the writer's fault, not the character's true potential.

@inferiorego: I'm pretty sure you like and agree with my statement Mat! :-)

#31 Posted by sentryman555 (771 posts) - - Show Bio

Does anyone know how much longer this story arc will last? I like that they're making new characters like Val Zod but I'm really burnt out on the Superman going evil gimmick.

#32 Posted by Cade_Calrayn (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Both the art and the story in this... just awesome.

#33 Posted by RuBoy96 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Even thoughi dont like how he is drawn, Blue Marvel looking much more badass and he is essentially black superman, i really dig the idea of someone rising to superman and this time its being a black dude.

#34 Posted by Aliltron (77 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm, a 4th Kryptonian. Honestly while the book continues to look good... I'd really like to see it get back to focusing on Jay, Kendra and Alan.

Thank you! This right here folks

#35 Posted by micah (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah: watch it be some guy shiz like H'el or whatever that gay's name is.

That's what I was thinking. Or maybe Mon El.

#36 Edited by NightFang (10046 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe I should start reading this series.

#37 Posted by SmashBrawler (5731 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85 said:

@inferiorego said:

He's not new. He's from Grant Morisson's run of ACTION COMICS brought into on-going continuity.

No he's not :)

Morrisons President Superman was based on a world that was essentially 'race-bent', every character we have in the main DCU thats white was black. And better yet, he's supposedly one of the characters Morrison intends to return to during Multiversity.

Batman wasn't black.

#38 Posted by victorcheenoanleu (142 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah: damn mon el hadn't crossed my mind. That'd actually be interesting

#39 Posted by mikey776 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

This looks good also I wonder how old Val-Zod is to it be cool if he was a teenage that's my opinion

#40 Posted by consafo80 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm confused I thought this book was called Earth 2 not The Jay, Kendra and

Alan Show. I liked it before with Robinson but its much better now.

#41 Posted by Cloakx14 (2997 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah said:

love Val-Zods costume, looks boss.

#42 Posted by BillyFamine (30 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish they would focus on some of the other characters too. I want to know what happened with The Red Lantern reference they did long ago, with Solomon Grundy, "Aquawoman's" origin, and also Fury.

I thought I was the only one who remembered this! Also, in the Zero Issue they mentioned there was 8 Wonders, Batman, Robin, Catwoman, Superman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Terry Sloan and another "mystery" wonder. Who was that? Was that supposed to be Captain Steel? The Atom? I thought they didn't get enhanced until after the Apokalips War.

As for the Kryptonian... man, that Superman suit does not look good on him. Sorry. I love the character, and I don't mind him having an "S" on his armor (although why wouldn't he honor his parents with the Zod emblem?), but that color motif is just bad. Too many bad memories of Electric Blue Superman.

#43 Posted by AmazingWebHead (2195 posts) - - Show Bio

That's a pretty cool costume. Especially the "Man of Steel"-like S.

#44 Posted by IDontLikeBirds (327 posts) - - Show Bio

@billyfamine: Who knows. I guess we'll never what Robinson had planned for the series. I remember in podcast interviews, just before leaving the series, he mentioned that he wasn't sure if whoever took over was going to go through with the same plans he had in place (for example the identity of Batman). For all we know, those other references have been scrapped, or they're hopefully just on the back burner until this current arc is over (which I'm hoping is soon). I also want to know what happened with Alan Scott's fiances murder and the conspiracy behind it. There are sooooo many things that were built up and then put on hold when they change writers and began this arc with Superman.

#45 Posted by TheFirstLantern (1505 posts) - - Show Bio

I like this so much. WHO IS THIS FOURTH KRYPTONIAN

#46 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally a minority character that has a developed, sensible background story!! Not just thrown in there for the sake of being a minority!(cough like Wally & Simon cough*) E2 did a great job with Hawkgirl too, looking more hispanic/blackish. When they develop these characters, it works well for DC.

I like this idea, pretty badass looking costume too. I like the whole House of El adopting an orphan kryptonian as one of their own. lol can't wait to see Clark's reaction to seeing Val-Zod donning his family crest lol.

@micah: Curious about this myself!

#47 Posted by asjmooney (149 posts) - - Show Bio

This is clearly the Superman of Future's End

#48 Posted by Outside_85 (8970 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Posted by SmashBrawler (5731 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85 said:

@smashbrawler said:

Batman wasn't black.

Everyone else was.

Well, Superman and Wonder Woman were the only ones who actually had their races changed.

#50 Posted by Comicman1000 (38 posts) - - Show Bio

@smashbrawler: If I recall correctly the Wonder Woman in that book was Nubia, a character who also exists in the then mainstream DC Universe along side Diana/Wonder Woman.