Posted by G-Man (32557 posts) - - Show Bio

The zero issues are meant to show us what was happening in the DC universe before the New 52 started. Next week's issue of BLUE BEETLE appears to be doing exactly that. We know that Jaime Reyes is the current bearer of the scarab but we also know it's from an alien race. Who was in possession of the scarab before? We're about to find out the answer to that question.

DC Has given us an exclusive preview for next week's BLUE BEETLE #0.

BLUE BEETLE #0

Where was the Scarab before it merged with the current Blue Beetle, Jaime Reyes?

Written by: Tony Bedard, Keith Giffen

Pencils by: Ig Guara

Inks by: J.P. Mayer

Cover by: Guara, Mayer with Pantazis

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#1 Edited by Green ankh (998 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks cool. But i don't like this Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle. So In the 52 Ted Kord was never the Beetle?

#2 Posted by zombietag (1494 posts) - - Show Bio

@Green ankh said:

Looks cool. But i don't like this Blue Beetle.
#3 Posted by cdeoleo (138 posts) - - Show Bio

@Green ankh: Have you read any of the series?

#4 Posted by NightFang (9985 posts) - - Show Bio

@zombietag said:

@Green ankh said:

Looks cool. But i don't like this Blue Beetle.

You're both horrible.

#5 Posted by sora_thekey (8161 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm interested in the character but I've never read a Blue Bettle comic. I wonder if this series is worth checking out.

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#6 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33065 posts) - - Show Bio
@sora_thekey said:

I'm interested in the character but I've never read a Blue Bettle comic. I wonder if this series is worth checking out.

You should read the pre-New 52 stuff it's great, this I really don't like
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#7 Posted by Loki9876 (3005 posts) - - Show Bio

Is the blue beetle n52 series any good?

#8 Posted by TitanTempest (347 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh no!!! I hope they will still have the cover they showed for Blue Beetle #0 original cover. Not that I hate this cover, I just loved the other one

#9 Posted by CircularLogic (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@Loki9876 said:

Is the blue beetle n52 series any good?

No. At the very least, not AT ALL as good as the original Jaime Reyes series was. It basically uses the same names as that book, but keeps nothing that was likable about the original characters (La Dama is just a mob boos, not the conflicted villain; Paco is a full-on gangbanger; Jaime literally attacked an innocent woman, but instead of feeling guilt, he is instead just whiny about how he's now on the run). The worst part is that the Scarab is basically the Venom symbiote, but not in a good way. The relationship between it and Jaime isn't even entertaining, just generic.

#10 Posted by Adnan (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

@TitanTempest said:

Oh no!!! I hope they will still have the cover they showed for Blue Beetle #0 original cover. Not that I hate this cover, I just loved the other one

They seem to have outright changed the story. The one solicited in that cover was about the ancient Mayans, this preview seems to be about something else entirely.

#11 Posted by TitanTempest (347 posts) - - Show Bio

@Adnan said:

@TitanTempest said:

Oh no!!! I hope they will still have the cover they showed for Blue Beetle #0 original cover. Not that I hate this cover, I just loved the other one

They seem to have outright changed the story. The one solicited in that cover was about the ancient Mayans, this preview seems to be about something else entirely.

Awwww I am so so sad, lol.... That sucks, maybe they can re-use that story one day in the future.... Thanks for the heads-up and info

#12 Posted by Superguy0009e (2265 posts) - - Show Bio

@CircularLogic said:

@Loki9876 said:

Is the blue beetle n52 series any good?

No. At the very least, not AT ALL as good as the original Jaime Reyes series was. It basically uses the same names as that book, but keeps nothing that was likable about the original characters (La Dama is just a mob boos, not the conflicted villain; Paco is a full-on gangbanger; Jaime literally attacked an innocent woman, but instead of feeling guilt, he is instead just whiny about how he's now on the run). The worst part is that the Scarab is basically the Venom symbiote, but not in a good way. The relationship between it and Jaime isn't even entertaining, just generic.

It has definitely grown on me. I can see the complaints, and I do agree with a lot of them, but I will say that how the present story arc ended left a good feeling in my mouth. I have hope for the series, I think Berdard can turn it around.

#13 Posted by Hourdude (9 posts) - - Show Bio

@Loki9876 said:

Is the blue beetle n52 series any good?

I'm new to comics the push I got to start was actually the New 52, and I picked up blue beetle simply because of the good things I heard about it pre-new 52 and honestly it's had an alright start and I got dangerously close to dropping it a few times, but it's gradually getting better (introduction of Miser bones and meeting Booster Gold) and I have a really good feeling about the direction it's going in so if your gonna read into it just start with zero and keep going.

#14 Posted by Rixec (363 posts) - - Show Bio

To everyone complaining about the story seemingly changing, let's remember these are the first few pages. We may very well see the scarab on both this host and the Mayan one. Wait till the issue comes out and see. Also, this is a good time to come onto the series if interested, especially since it has been getting better with each issue. Jaime and the scarab are even getting nto a decent relationship of sorts as of issue 12.

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#15 Posted by TruSoul (8 posts) - - Show Bio

I have nothing negative to say about Blue Beetle. If it were not for DC Nation or Cartoon Network and the New 52 initiative I wouldn't have begun reading comics. I like this Blue Beetle story and so I'm definitely going to pick up this issue. I think the opening looks really intriguing and compelling.

#16 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

@Loki9876 said:

Is the blue beetle n52 series any good?

I like it, sometimes goes a bit down and makes you be close to drop it but then it gets better and so.

#17 Posted by Herx (374 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rixec said:

To everyone complaining about the story seemingly changing, let's remember these are the first few pages. We may very well see the scarab on both this host and the Mayan one. Wait till the issue comes out and see. Also, this is a good time to come onto the series if interested, especially since it has been getting better with each issue. Jaime and the scarab are even getting nto a decent relationship of sorts as of issue 12.

I agree, having read both this series and the pre-52 series i did have doubts about this current reboot of Blue beetle, but by issue 12 it did leave me with a good feeling and a hope that it might start to resemble the pre-52 one. As to wheather this'll be a good jump on point though, i'll have to disagree. After the event's of Justice League International annual #1 (which took place after blue beetle #12) Jaimes been sent to reechworld, which will start the reachworld story arc in blue beetle #13, so unless this zero issue explains that much it might be slightly confusing for people jumping straight on into this series after this point as to why he's not on earth.

#18 Posted by Rixec (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Herx said:

@Rixec said:

To everyone complaining about the story seemingly changing, let's remember these are the first few pages. We may very well see the scarab on both this host and the Mayan one. Wait till the issue comes out and see. Also, this is a good time to come onto the series if interested, especially since it has been getting better with each issue. Jaime and the scarab are even getting nto a decent relationship of sorts as of issue 12.

I agree, having read both this series and the pre-52 series i did have doubts about this current reboot of Blue beetle, but by issue 12 it did leave me with a good feeling and a hope that it might start to resemble the pre-52 one. As to wheather this'll be a good jump on point though, i'll have to disagree. After the event's of Justice League International annual #1 (which took place after blue beetle #12) Jaimes been sent to reechworld, which will start the reachworld story arc in blue beetle #13, so unless this zero issue explains that much it might be slightly confusing for people jumping straight on into this series after this point as to why he's not on earth.

For all we know though it could be explained in issue 0 or 13. I'm saying possibly 0 due to the fact the scarab is telling Jaime his origin, which might be because they're on the Reach home world and he needs to know. And, if not, they might say so at the beginning of 13. Only way to find out is to pick it up and start reading.

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#19 Posted by druzod2501 (72 posts) - - Show Bio

who had it before Jaime? I dunno, maybe Ted Kord?

#20 Posted by red_titan (156 posts) - - Show Bio

@TitanTempest: he looks like a turkey now.

#21 Posted by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

Jaime Reyes is the best person under the Blue Beetle mantle. The others were just cookie cutter gadget heroes. Why you want to see them is beyond me.

#22 Posted by Bobzenub (120 posts) - - Show Bio

@Twentyfive: Ted Kord and Booster Gold had the best buddy team-ups in comic book history.

#23 Posted by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bobzenub: As cool as that is for either character, there really doesn't seem to be space for that in the NEW 52. And if DC brings Kord back just so he can team up with Gold like old times, then that will truly be a darn shame.

Blue Beetle has never been interesting until the Scarab Merged with Jaime's spine. Or should I say not as interesting? Reyes s the better character.

#24 Edited by Bobzenub (120 posts) - - Show Bio

@Twentyfive: The first volume of Reyes-Beetle was fine (it started out slow though). Not great, maybe good, but fine describes it better, yet this current iteration of the character has been totally dull and tedious even compared to that... I would take Ted Kord anytime over this.

Also the JLI Annual was a major slap in the face for the fans who hoped they would revive somehow the buddy relationship between Booster and this Beetle. It's like DC deliberetly wants to burry everything that long-time fans loved about the pre-New 52 continuity and in return there is nothing but angst and unnecessary conflict, which I doubt newcomers appreciate that much.

#25 Edited by TitanTempest (347 posts) - - Show Bio

@red_titan: The other design was SO cool! and they replaced it with a blue turkey girl WWHHYYY!!!!! But I guess they have their reasons, but an Ancient Aztec Blue Beetle would have been awesome

#26 Posted by Rixec (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@TitanTempest said:

@red_titan: The other design was SO cool! and they replaced it with a blue turkey girl WWHHYYY!!!!! But I guess they have their reasons, but an Ancient Aztec Blue Beetle

For all we know we may see multiple hosts in the issue but we could get a good focus on the first (the one above) and the Mayan one. Wait until the issue comes out, there's more than 5 pages.

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#27 Posted by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bobzenub said:

@Twentyfive: The first volume of Reyes-Beetle was fine (it started out slow though). Not great, maybe good, but fine describes it better, yet this current iteration of the character has been totally dull and tedious even compared to that... I would take Ted Kord anytime over this.

Also the JLI Annual was a major slap in the face for the fans who hoped they would revive somehow the buddy relationship between Booster and this Beetle. It's like DC deliberetly wants to burry everything that long-time fans loved about the pre-New 52 continuity and in return there is nothing but angst and unnecessary conflict, which I doubt newcomers appreciate that much.

Cool.

#28 Posted by Rixec (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bobzenub said:

@Twentyfive: The first volume of Reyes-Beetle was fine (it started out slow though). Not great, maybe good, but fine describes it better, yet this current iteration of the character has been totally dull and tedious even compared to that... I would take Ted Kord anytime over this.

Also the JLI Annual was a major slap in the face for the fans who hoped they would revive somehow the buddy relationship between Booster and this Beetle. It's like DC deliberetly wants to burry everything that long-time fans loved about the pre-New 52 continuity and in return there is nothing but angst and unnecessary conflict, which I doubt newcomers appreciate that much.

How much have you read? Because the series keeps getting better! Have you read issue 12? Totally gives a feel of the last series.

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#29 Posted by TitanTempest (347 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rixec: I hope so, but at first I was just complaining about the cover hoping this one was a variant.... I loved the original cover, I would even buy a bust of that one, and I dont buy any collectables lol

#30 Edited by Bobzenub (120 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rixec: I've read every issue of the New 52 up until #12, including Blue Beetle (I don't have anything against Zero Month, it's just that I have some catching up to do with some other series I follow). All I'm saying is this: even if I put myself into the teenage mindset, the current Blue Beetle volume is very lacking on many departments that would make it an immersive read. I like Reyes as a character and there is nothing wrong with him here, but damn, the supporting cast just sucks... Both Paco and Brenda are like cardboard cut-outs from a high school sitcom. The plotting is fine, but the overall story and the motives/conflicts are quite shallow, and not only that, the plotline regarding the origin of the Scarab has basically landed at DC's cosmic line, because, let's be honest, they introduced it too early. What am I getting at is, the book had and still has potential, but somehow it cannot rise above the nuances that makes it generic. The main problem probably is that we are 12 issues in, and Reyes still wants to get rid off the scarab instead of embrace it and being a hero. It's like reading twelve issues of Spider-Man whose main goal is to revert the emblemic spider-bite.

#31 Posted by matt_cable (43 posts) - - Show Bio

It is my sincere hope that Ted Kord will become Jaime's successor in the New 52... sans Scarab powers. Just Ted with his toys and brain. No more scarab.

#32 Posted by Rixec (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@matt_cable said:

It is my sincere hope that Ted Kord will become Jaime's successor in the New 52... sans Scarab powers. Just Ted with his toys and brain. No more scarab.

BOO! >(

Jaime is awesome! Ted can come back but Jaime WILL NOT go anywhere! Nor will Khaji-Da!

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#33 Posted by Rixec (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bobzenub said:

@Rixec: I've read every issue of the New 52 up until #12, including Blue Beetle (I don't have anything against Zero Month, it's just that I have some catching up to do with some other series I follow). All I'm saying is this: even if I put myself into the teenage mindset, the current Blue Beetle volume is very lacking on many departments that would make it an immersive read. I like Reyes as a character and there is nothing wrong with him here, but damn, the supporting cast just sucks... Both Paco and Brenda are like cardboard cut-outs from a high school sitcom. The plotting is fine, but the overall story and the motives/conflicts are quite shallow, and not only that, the plotline regarding the origin of the Scarab has basically landed at DC's cosmic line, because, let's be honest, they introduced it too early. What am I getting at is, the book had and still has potential, but somehow it cannot rise above the nuances that makes it generic. The main problem probably is that we are 12 issues in, and Reyes still wants to get rid off the scarab instead of embrace it and being a hero. It's like reading twelve issues of Spider-Man whose main goal is to revert the emblemic spider-bite.

Well, Jaime has had some trouble and most realistic people would want it off. It's not a 1 2 3 decision. The Reach arc may be what finally brings about Jaime and Khaji-Da into the Blue Beetle.

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#34 Posted by zombietag (1494 posts) - - Show Bio

@NightFang said:

@zombietag said:

@Green ankh said:

Looks cool. But i don't like this Blue Beetle.

You're both horrible.

whatevs

#35 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually like this story of what the scarab was up to before it came to Jaime, but still...I miss Ted. I want my Ted back. Can't stress that enough.

#36 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

Jaime Reyes is a fun character I love his comic.

#37 Posted by Eyz (3095 posts) - - Show Bio

@RedheadedAtrocitus said:

I actually like this story of what the scarab was up to before it came to Jaime, but still...I miss Ted. I want my Ted back. Can't stress that enough.

I actually want Jaime back..the real fun light one, not the current gritty one... X___X

#38 Posted by Rixec (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@Eyz said:

@RedheadedAtrocitus said:

I actually like this story of what the scarab was up to before it came to Jaime, but still...I miss Ted. I want my Ted back. Can't stress that enough.

I actually want Jaime back..the real fun light one, not the current gritty one... X___X

Issue 12 showed some of that, so we might be seeing more soon enough.

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#39 Posted by Vincie_Pooh (109 posts) - - Show Bio

In away Blue Beetle reminds me of Guyver.

#40 Edited by takuy (17 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bobzenub said:

@Rixec: I've read every issue of the New 52 up until #12, including Blue Beetle (I don't have anything against Zero Month, it's just that I have some catching up to do with some other series I follow). All I'm saying is this: even if I put myself into the teenage mindset, the current Blue Beetle volume is very lacking on many departments that would make it an immersive read. I like Reyes as a character and there is nothing wrong with him here, but damn, the supporting cast just sucks... Both Paco and Brenda are like cardboard cut-outs from a high school sitcom. The plotting is fine, but the overall story and the motives/conflicts are quite shallow, and not only that, the plotline regarding the origin of the Scarab has basically landed at DC's cosmic line, because, let's be honest, they introduced it too early. What am I getting at is, the book had and still has potential, but somehow it cannot rise above the nuances that makes it generic. The main problem probably is that we are 12 issues in, and Reyes still wants to get rid off the scarab instead of embrace it and being a hero. It's like reading twelve issues of Spider-Man whose main goal is to revert the emblemic spider-bite.

1. disregard fans

2. disregard 70 years of history

3. ???

4. profit

#41 Posted by FKAjason (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Ted Kord will always be my Blue Beetle, but I like Jaime too. This issue looks pretty good; I might pick it up.

#42 Posted by krspaceT (1473 posts) - - Show Bio

Poor alien girl...the reach are just nasty. Why don't the Lanterns attack?

#43 Posted by Zeeguy91 (1104 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bobzenub said:

@Rixec: I've read every issue of the New 52 up until #12, including Blue Beetle (I don't have anything against Zero Month, it's just that I have some catching up to do with some other series I follow). All I'm saying is this: even if I put myself into the teenage mindset, the current Blue Beetle volume is very lacking on many departments that would make it an immersive read. I like Reyes as a character and there is nothing wrong with him here, but damn, the supporting cast just sucks... Both Paco and Brenda are like cardboard cut-outs from a high school sitcom. The plotting is fine, but the overall story and the motives/conflicts are quite shallow, and not only that, the plotline regarding the origin of the Scarab has basically landed at DC's cosmic line, because, let's be honest, they introduced it too early. What am I getting at is, the book had and still has potential, but somehow it cannot rise above the nuances that makes it generic. The main problem probably is that we are 12 issues in, and Reyes still wants to get rid off the scarab instead of embrace it and being a hero. It's like reading twelve issues of Spider-Man whose main goal is to revert the emblemic spider-bite.

Dude, not everyone wants to be a superhero. I know that sounds lame, but honestly, what do you expect a teenager to do in that situation? Just say: "Oh, I wanna be a hero now."?? IMO, that would be incredibly corny. Of course Jaime wants to get rid of the scarab. Its a f-ing alien parasite that has injected itself into his consciousness. Wouldn't you want to get rid of it?? He's just acting like I expect any teenage boy would act in a situation like that.
#44 Posted by Zeeguy91 (1104 posts) - - Show Bio
@takuy: Not only does your response hold no water, it actually doesn't even respond to ANY of the points the original poster made. So...congratulations on being irrelevant.
#45 Posted by takuy (17 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zeeguy91: I probably quoted the wrong person. Gosh. Anyways, it was 100% relevant to everything.

#46 Posted by davewire (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to admit first and foremost that I haven't read this series at all yet so don't shoot me. I plan on it, but I was a Marvel guy for a long time so I'm playing a bit of DC catch up and I just finished reading the last volume of Blue Beetle yesterday and it was awesome.

That being said, I just want to weigh in with my own opinion on Dan and Ted. If the two previous Blue Beetles have been written out of the DC Universe in New 52, I'm going to be very disappointed. I really liked the both of them and to write them out of DC continuity completely would not only spit on their legacies and the legacies of those who created them (Steve Ditko, I'm looking at you), but would also spit on the last volume of Blue Beetle that not only acknowledged Jaime's status as a legacy, but honored his two predecessors greatly.

Looking at the above pictures, I will say that I'm okay with an alien having been prior host, but I do really hope that this story is just a stepping stone that takes place before Garrett and Kord stepped into the fray.