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Posted by G-Man (18855 posts) - - Show Bio

Next week we'll see the first batch of DC's "The New 52" including Superman's early appearance in this new universe in Grant Morrison and Rags Morales' Action Comics #1.

We already know that this version of Superman looks a little different from the cover images we've seen. Superman is wearing a t-shirt, jeans and work boots. It turns out his looks aren't the only things that are different. Check out preview yahoo news posted.

== TEASER ==

Is this the Superman you know?

Jim Lee Variant

Looks like we'll have something to talk about next week when the issue lands in stores.

#1 Edited by lvv (75 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks nice! I love it! Btw Jim Lee variant rocks.

#2 Posted by Kiddevil (7477 posts) - - Show Bio

hate it!
#3 Posted by utotheg38 (18861 posts) - - Show Bio

nice

#4 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 

#5 Posted by elayem98 (458 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks cool. Its different, but he'll be more supermany in superman #1 i bet

#6 Posted by elayem98 (458 posts) - - Show Bio

Also why is the jim lee variant in the new costume instead of the 5years ago costume that he is supposed to be in?

#7 Posted by ninjacommando (104 posts) - - Show Bio

he looks really lame.

#8 Posted by Ulfghuld (35 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't Wait!

#9 Posted by Croi (173 posts) - - Show Bio
@lvv said:

Looks nice! I love it! Btw Jim Lee variant rocks.

Wonder when we'll get to see him in that costume in Action Comics.
#10 Posted by GothamRed (2553 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow the reactions to this are polarized!

#11 Posted by G-Man (18855 posts) - - Show Bio

@elayem98: Not sure. That's what yahoo had. Maybe the issue will feature both but focus on the flashback stories? I've been wondering if the entire series will be flashbacks or if eventually it'll contain current stories along with the George Perez Superman title.

#12 Posted by GraveSp (314 posts) - - Show Bio

It kinda seems like Superman is going to be fighting a different type of crime in the beginning which is interesting.  Its not every day that a superhero goes after the guy with the corrupt business practices.  And if he is going after businessmen it could be the starting point for the Luther animosity.  And honestly it seems to be an effective way of getting a confession 

#13 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio
@GraveSp said:
It kinda seems like Superman is going to be fighting a different type of crime in the beginning which is interesting.  Its not every day that a superhero goes after the guy with the corrupt business practices.  And if he is going after businessmen it could be the starting point for the Luther animosity.  And honestly it seems to be an effective way of getting a confession 
Under duress though, it's completely inadmissible in any court. The police probably wouldn't even bother arresting the guy.  
#14 Posted by longbowhunter (7691 posts) - - Show Bio

This is actually a little closer to how Supes was in the early stories. Before he became the big blue boyscout.
#15 Posted by RalfvdH (651 posts) - - Show Bio

He kinda reminds me of Spider-man in the way he acts... I like it :)
 
This Super-man I like :D

#16 Posted by Aiden Cross (15526 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
Ditto.
 
This is just not the Superman I know and grew up with. Superman, in my eyes, should be the example for everyone. This guy however, just isn't. He may have Superman powers, he may wear the symbol and look like him. But he just isn't Superman to me (yet). Maybe it'll be different later on.
#17 Edited by ArtisticNeedham (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

 So, is this sort of Superboy?
 

@GraveSp

: In the very very beginning of Superman's career he would go after crooked landlords, abusive husbands, dirty cops, etc.  Because during that time that was a real big problem.  He, at the time, represented the common man who couldn't get a fair deal from a corrupt society.  he was also a lot more aggressive.  Not afraid to throw a man across a football field to get what he wanted.
(then comics were under fire and Superman was changed to be a guy who worked more with the government and within the laws.  Because the complaint was that Superman did what he wanted when he wanted and was a bad example for children.)
 

maybe Morrison is paying tribute to that, saying that stuff is still a part of Superman's past.
 
 
WOW!  I am definitely going to buy this.  With every new preview of DC's stuff I get more excited and want to buy more.  I want this, the JLA, from what Snyder said probably Batman, and maybe Superman by Perez.  Man, how will I afford all these comics and all my Marvel comics too?
#18 Posted by Or35ti (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

:O This book is going to be amazing! 
 
@elayem98 said:

Also why is the jim lee variant in the new costume instead of the 5years ago costume that he is supposed to be in?
I've been thinking the same thing.
#19 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
Ditto.  This is just not the Superman I know and grew up with. Superman, in my eyes, should be the example for everyone. This guy however, just isn't. He may have Superman powers, he may wear the symbol and look like him. But he just isn't Superman to me (yet). Maybe it'll be different later on.
Yep.  
 
Superman is (not to get overly religious) and was designed to be the modern day Messiah. He descended from the Heavens, was raised by humbles farmers who did not conceive him themselves, and used his great power to spread hope and love throughout the world.  
 
This guy attacks people and intimidates police; that is not Superman. Hell, that's not even Earth One Superman.  
 
 As you said, a symbol and powers don't make Clark Kent Superman; what that symbol means and represents does.  
 
But there is a good chance he'll mellow. 
#20 Posted by Trodorne (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

Action comics is looking awesome. 
@Or35ti said:


@elayem98 said:
Also why is the jim lee variant in the new costume instead of the 5years ago costume that he is supposed to be in?
I've been thinking the same thing.
I third that.
#21 Posted by Fantasgasmic (1033 posts) - - Show Bio

Goddamn it so much. I love Batman as much as everyone else, but I'm so sick of the batmanification of other characters.

#22 Posted by spaceboy (200 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks more street than the Superman I'm used to.

#23 Posted by noj (1089 posts) - - Show Bio
@ArtisticNeedham said:
 So, is this sort of Superboy?
 
@GraveSp: In the very very beginning of Superman's career he would go after crooked landlords, abusive husbands, dirty cops, etc.  Because during that time that was a real big problem.  He, at the time, represented the common man who couldn't get a fair deal from a corrupt society.  he was also a lot more aggressive.  Not afraid to throw a man across a football field to get what he wanted. (then comics were under fire and Superman was changed to be a guy who worked more with the government and within the laws.  Because the complaint was that Superman did what he wanted when he wanted and was a bad example for children.) maybe Morrison is paying tribute to that, saying that stuff is still a part of Superman's past.   WOW!  I am definitely going to buy this.  With every new preview of DC's stuff I get more excited and want to buy more.  I want this, the JLA, from what Snyder said probably Batman, and maybe Superman by Perez.  Man, how will I afford all these comics and all my Marvel comics too?
This guy knows what he is talking about!!! That is exactly right, Superman was not always the way he is today 
 
@FadeToBlackBolt: Check out the guy I quoted he hit it dead on. If you have actually ever read Supermans first appearance he was a much more aggressive and pro active character who would go after crime instead of reacting to it. I'm sure we will eventually get a more familiar version of the man of steel, but it appears he is going to actually have to grow into that person.
#24 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio
@noj said:
@ArtisticNeedham said:
 So, is this sort of Superboy?
 
@GraveSp: In the very very beginning of Superman's career he would go after crooked landlords, abusive husbands, dirty cops, etc.  Because during that time that was a real big problem.  He, at the time, represented the common man who couldn't get a fair deal from a corrupt society.  he was also a lot more aggressive.  Not afraid to throw a man across a football field to get what he wanted. (then comics were under fire and Superman was changed to be a guy who worked more with the government and within the laws.  Because the complaint was that Superman did what he wanted when he wanted and was a bad example for children.) maybe Morrison is paying tribute to that, saying that stuff is still a part of Superman's past.   WOW!  I am definitely going to buy this.  With every new preview of DC's stuff I get more excited and want to buy more.  I want this, the JLA, from what Snyder said probably Batman, and maybe Superman by Perez.  Man, how will I afford all these comics and all my Marvel comics too?
This guy knows what he is talking about!!! That is exactly right, Superman was not always the way he is today 
 
@FadeToBlackBolt: Check out the guy I quoted he hit it dead on. If you have actually ever read Supermans first appearance he was a much more aggressive and pro active character who would go after crime instead of reacting to it. I'm sure we will eventually get a more familiar version of the man of steel, but it appears he is going to actually have to grow into that person.
I understand that, but what you also have to realise is that the Golden Age Superman isn't really Superman. Sure, he's the foundation, but he's not what the character has come to represent. It's like saying that because Batman killed in his first few appearances he should kill now, that's not what the character is about, not at their core. Yes, it happened, but that doesn't make it a core part of the character. 
 
 I'm a HUGE Morrison fan, and I love that he takes the past and infuses it with the present, but this might not be the best way to do it. 
#25 Posted by Roldan (241 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Aiden Cross said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
Ditto.  This is just not the Superman I know and grew up with. Superman, in my eyes, should be the example for everyone. This guy however, just isn't. He may have Superman powers, he may wear the symbol and look like him. But he just isn't Superman to me (yet). Maybe it'll be different later on.
Yep.   Superman is (not to get overly religious) and was designed to be the modern day Messiah. He descended from the Heavens, was raised by humbles farmers who did not conceive him themselves, and used his great power to spread hope and love throughout the world.   This guy attacks people and intimidates police; that is not Superman. Hell, that's not even Earth One Superman.    As you said, a symbol and powers don't make Clark Kent Superman; what that symbol means and represents does.   But there is a good chance he'll mellow. 
Well no. He didn't start of the great man we know today. He started with helping the minority, the little guy that no one cared about. He was the champion of the oppressed and that's what Grant's doing here. He's giving us a origin to Clark's start as a hero by celebrating Schuster and Segel's original idea.  Also I'd rather have Superman doing something then him just going around mopping how dull his life is.
#26 Posted by sparty-dbq (849 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@GraveSp said:
It kinda seems like Superman is going to be fighting a different type of crime in the beginning which is interesting.  Its not every day that a superhero goes after the guy with the corrupt business practices.  And if he is going after businessmen it could be the starting point for the Luther animosity.  And honestly it seems to be an effective way of getting a confession 
Under duress though, it's completely inadmissible in any court. The police probably wouldn't even bother arresting the guy.  
I was gonna say the exact same thing.  This is gonna be Supes' first lesson in how the law works.
#27 Posted by ReVamp (22798 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
These are both set during the same Time period. Five years ago. He'll grow up.
#28 Posted by Aiden Cross (15526 posts) - - Show Bio
@Roldan: @noj: They moved away from his Golden Age character and motivations for a reason and build him up to how we know him today. If this is just a tribute to his Golden Age years and he'll go back to the Supes we know (or at least close to him) then i'm fine with it. But just because he was this way in the Golden Age, doesn't mean he should be this way now.
#29 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio
@Roldan said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Aiden Cross said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
Ditto.  This is just not the Superman I know and grew up with. Superman, in my eyes, should be the example for everyone. This guy however, just isn't. He may have Superman powers, he may wear the symbol and look like him. But he just isn't Superman to me (yet). Maybe it'll be different later on.
Yep.   Superman is (not to get overly religious) and was designed to be the modern day Messiah. He descended from the Heavens, was raised by humbles farmers who did not conceive him themselves, and used his great power to spread hope and love throughout the world.   This guy attacks people and intimidates police; that is not Superman. Hell, that's not even Earth One Superman.    As you said, a symbol and powers don't make Clark Kent Superman; what that symbol means and represents does.   But there is a good chance he'll mellow. 
Well no. He didn't start of the great man we know today. He started with helping the minority, the little guy that no one cared about. He was the champion of the oppressed and that's what Grant's doing here. He's giving us a origin to Clark's start as a hero by celebrating Schuster and Segel's original idea.  Also I'd rather have Superman doing something then him just going around mopping how dull his life is.
I didn't say I was against Superman helping the common man, I was against the fact he assaulted someone, forced a confession and then intimidated law enforcement, people he has always shown respect for. One of the most beautiful scenes in any Superman comic is when, while surveying a cemetery with Nightwing, a security guard says that the place will be safe with the two of them watching. Superman responds by saying it will be safe because the three of them are watching. And that's who Superman is. He doesn't call himself Superman because he's better, he's constantly striving to be a better man himself, he's trying to be a Superman too.  
 
One of the key differences between Batman and Superman is that Superman has never really been a vigilante. According to the strictest sense of the law he is, sure, but his city loves him, he never assaults ordinary humans, he doesn't break the law in any way unless he can't help it. Hell, he even shows up in court to testify at times. Making him a vigilante, no matter how remarkable, isn't doing any favours for the character. 
#30 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
These are both set during the same Time period. Five years ago. He'll grow up.
Yeah, but this is clearly set at least a few months before JL#1, where it appears his personality hasn't changed, which means it's unlikely he'll grow up while he's still wearing the jeans. 
#31 Posted by shawn87 (2082 posts) - - Show Bio

Excited to get this. 

#32 Posted by Jake Fury (19187 posts) - - Show Bio

Kal-El, The Vigilante Kryptonian!  
 
#33 Posted by ReVamp (22798 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt: Oh, he definitely won't. But I mean he'll grow up over the "five years".
#34 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (7550 posts) - - Show Bio

I am going to try this series out. I hope it is good. 

#35 Edited by ArtisticNeedham (2257 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt: Well when Morrison handled Batman he tired to show that every incarnation of Batman was in continuity.  Everything from the campy stuff to the grim and gritty was part of who Batman is and was and will be.  He seems to be wanting to do the same with Superman.
Showing that when Superman first started out he didn't just fight super guys or robots.  He fought corruption and human evils like greed, hate, spousal abuse.  In the preview all he shows is that Superman knows this guy is crooked but is under police protection, so Superman forces him to confess.  Its not like Superman grabs the guy and throws him across the city to his death.  I think we may even end up with Superman realizing why he can't do this stuff.
I can't upload images, still, but here is a link to an old comic for those who want to see how agressive Superman used to be and what I think this is paying homage to:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QidrwGOlfKo/TKJTQ7pNqHI/AAAAAAAADIQ/61K1GqeMKro/s1600/action_comics_superman_1938_013x.jpg
 
and this is a retelling of an actual story about Superman bursting in and stopping a man from beating his wife with a belt.  In the original comic Superman breaks down the door and grabs the guy and I think throws him into the wall.
http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/712537.html
 
I didn't read this, but I think this link also talks about his past, he was a hero for the common man and a rebel rouser:
http://alankistler.squarespace.com/journal/2007/11/20/alan-kistlers-history-of-superman-part-1.html
 
I think this is in the beginning of Superman career, maybe even his first night as Superman.  So I think over the next five years he will grow and become the Superman we know.  He may end up working more with the law like we all know him to do today, but here he starts out more like a vigilante. 

@Aiden Cross

: I think they moved away from this because of the Comic Book trials, where Superman was said to be a fascist dream or something.  "Able to do whatever he wanted without paying for the consequences."  Batman and Robin were called homosexuals and Wonder Woman was said to be too manly.  So Superman started acting alongside the law and became a symbol of law.  Batman and Robin started hanging out with girls like Batwoman and her sidekick, and they became officially deputized as law enforcement.  Batman even started giving tours of the Batcave.  Wonder Woman, like Lois Lane, became more girly and starting worry fanning more over Steve Trevor (Lois started worrying more about if Superman liked her).
Eventually they grew into the great characters we all know today, partly because of the revamps in the 80s by John Byrne on Superman and Frank Miller on Batman (year One and Dark Knight Returns).
And I don't think anyone needs to worry,  Superman will become the symbol of peace and hope and diplomacy we all know and love.  He is one of the most popular characters in the world.  They wont make him a jerk for long, my guess is one issue.  But He will grow and learn to be the hero he is meant to be.

#36 Posted by Sekele (280 posts) - - Show Bio

This kinda reminds me of Superman's Golden Age debut  
Minus the cops chasing him, but that's a logical consequence 

#37 Posted by Sekele (280 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
Actually, this is EXACTLY how he used to be during his early years 
#38 Posted by turoksonofstone (12901 posts) - - Show Bio

......lol.

#39 Posted by Sekele (280 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross said:

Ditto.  This is just not the Superman I know and grew up with. Superman, in my eyes, should be the example for everyone. This guy however, just isn't. He may have Superman powers, he may wear the symbol and look like him. But he just isn't Superman to me (yet). Maybe it'll be different later on.
 
And yet, he is EXACTLY how his creators Siegel and Shuster intended him to be  
The version you grew-up with was a result of decades of character developed and executive meddling  
 
This version could be considered Superman in his purest form 
#40 Posted by gambitsprincess (14 posts) - - Show Bio

i can not wait on this comic, and jim lee's art is simply amazeing!
#41 Posted by ImperiousRix (1050 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sekele:  
That's exactly what I was thinking.  This feels like a return to Superman's original premise as a social reformer with super-powers rather than the Superman we've seen for years now.  That's undoubtedly going to alienate some people, but it's also closer to Superman's roots.  Figured Morrison would do something like this.
#42 Posted by Aiden Cross (15526 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sekele said:
@Aiden Cross said:

Ditto.  This is just not the Superman I know and grew up with. Superman, in my eyes, should be the example for everyone. This guy however, just isn't. He may have Superman powers, he may wear the symbol and look like him. But he just isn't Superman to me (yet). Maybe it'll be different later on.
 And yet, he is EXACTLY how his creators Siegel and Shuster intended him to be  The version you grew-up with was a result of decades of character developed and executive meddling   This version could be considered Superman in his purest form 
That's your opinion and you're completely entitled to that. I just disagree with your assassment that it's Superman in his purest form. It's just Superman in his earliest form. I'll quote what I said before:
 
@Aiden Cross said:
They moved away from his Golden Age character and motivations for a reason and build him up to how we know him today. If this is just a tribute to his Golden Age years and he'll go back to the Supes we know (or at least close to him) then i'm fine with it. But just because he was this way in the Golden Age, doesn't mean he should be this way now.
#43 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5487 posts) - - Show Bio

outfit sucks....but it don't matter I can't get any of those anyway :( 
'cept BoP of course..... 

#44 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2215 posts) - - Show Bio

This isn't like Batman at all, it's more like how Superman was originally written.

#45 Posted by Enzeru--defunct (2893 posts) - - Show Bio

I like this take on Superman. I would like him to stay all the way like this.
Unfortunately he seems to be talking maybe a little bit too much - or at least too cocky, but I guess I can live with that.
 
Everything is better then the boyscout-image.

#46 Edited by Roldan (241 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Roldan said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Aiden Cross said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
I love Grant Morrison, but I do not like that preview at all. That's just not who Superman is. Of course, he may learn humility (and make JL #1 even more pointless), or stay a jerk, so we'll just have to wait and see. 
Ditto.  This is just not the Superman I know and grew up with. Superman, in my eyes, should be the example for everyone. This guy however, just isn't. He may have Superman powers, he may wear the symbol and look like him. But he just isn't Superman to me (yet). Maybe it'll be different later on.
Yep.   Superman is (not to get overly religious) and was designed to be the modern day Messiah. He descended from the Heavens, was raised by humbles farmers who did not conceive him themselves, and used his great power to spread hope and love throughout the world.   This guy attacks people and intimidates police; that is not Superman. Hell, that's not even Earth One Superman.    As you said, a symbol and powers don't make Clark Kent Superman; what that symbol means and represents does.   But there is a good chance he'll mellow. 
Well no. He didn't start of the great man we know today. He started with helping the minority, the little guy that no one cared about. He was the champion of the oppressed and that's what Grant's doing here. He's giving us a origin to Clark's start as a hero by celebrating Schuster and Segel's original idea.  Also I'd rather have Superman doing something then him just going around mopping how dull his life is.
I didn't say I was against Superman helping the common man, I was against the fact he assaulted someone, forced a confession and then intimidated law enforcement, people he has always shown respect for. One of the most beautiful scenes in any Superman comic is when, while surveying a cemetery with Nightwing, a security guard says that the place will be safe with the two of them watching. Superman responds by saying it will be safe because the three of them are watching. And that's who Superman is. He doesn't call himself Superman because he's better, he's constantly striving to be a better man himself, he's trying to be a Superman too.   One of the key differences between Batman and Superman is that Superman has never really been a vigilante. According to the strictest sense of the law he is, sure, but his city loves him, he never assaults ordinary humans, he doesn't break the law in any way unless he can't help it. Hell, he even shows up in court to testify at times. Making him a vigilante, no matter how remarkable, isn't doing any favours for the character. 
Well this Superman is still learning his ways through things. I don't think that sort of greatness doesn't come right of the bat, no you get something like that after years of experience. Also like i said, Grant's going back to the basics. He's doing things Schuster and Segel did when they first started. And don't forget that Grant loves Superman's comic history.
#47 Posted by xScorchedx (74 posts) - - Show Bio
@ArtisticNeedham: You make a really good point. The Golden Age Superman was very close to this kind of Superman we see in the preview. I just hope he changes into the kind of Superman we all know.
#48 Posted by The Poet (8156 posts) - - Show Bio

that is cool! I was curious about this series and it looks like its good to be very interesting...
Going to get if I can...

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#49 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38789 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fantasgasmic said:
Goddamn it so much. I love Batman as much as everyone else, but I'm so sick of the batmanification of other characters.
I kinda agree.
#50 Posted by xScorchedx (74 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheGoldenOne: I agree aswell, I really hope this Superman comes to find his ways, allowing him to act as all of us know him.