That's probably right about the world in the sense of popularity, but I believe that has more to do with his name and the unpopularity of America to the rest of the world then Captain America himself. if Steve Rogers had been called some thing else, maybe other countries would embrace him. but look at his story, look at who Steve Rogers is in the sense of heroism. that's what makes him the best Hero. super or not. heck even cap was uncertain about America. Capt. America and falcon number 176.
Is Captain America the Greatest Superhero ever??
Spider-Man, Batman , superman are all better. And for the record, I think Deathstroke is a better character than he is.
@alexander505: You might want to read the rest of that comic and that series. He is referring to France as a means to say he's not going to give up like France in a fight. But, He has always had a great pride for his country, and as I said earlier that doesn't win him the popularity contest. Good thing this is a Greatest Super HERO contest.
@alexander505: You might want to read the rest of that comic and that series. He is referring to France as a means to say he's not going to give up like France in a fight. But, He has always had a great pride for his country, and as I said earlier that doesn't win him the popularity contest. Good thing this is a Greatest Super HERO contest.
Except France didn't "give up"
Best post on Comicvine right here.
No ...just no
What?You disagree with me?
@tdk_1997: Yes I disagree Cap is the best...of course that is just an opinion.
@spider11211: Thorugh the years Marvel changed him just too much and he is no longer the character he used to be.He's not even in my Top 3 for greatest heroes ever.
@tdk_1997: You do have a good point, while I love some of the stories they have seemed to change him some. One thing I could not stand is that he was very much like Jack Bower and said Damn every other sentence.
That is not Cap.
@Mego_Stretch_Hulk
said:
I think he's far and away the greatest. Who do you guys got that's better?
Superman/Batman imo.
BB
@spider11211: Thorugh the years Marvel changed him just too much and he is no longer the character he used to be.He's not even in my Top 3 for greatest heroes ever.
How has Marvel changed Cap?
@wolverine08: Well in AvX he was a d*ckhead all the way and also he has changed from that good boy scout to a guy who always works in extreme measures and is ready to hurt someone if he doesn't do what he wants him to do.
@tdk_1997: You do have a good point, while I love some of the stories they have seemed to change him some. One thing I could not stand is that he was very much like Jack Bower and said Damn every other sentence.
That is not Cap.
Word.
Cap was always the voice of reason, now he is portrayed as a bit of a hothead.
That just does not fit.
@alexander505: You might want to read the rest of that comic and that series. He is referring to France as a means to say he's not going to give up like France in a fight. But, He has always had a great pride for his country, and as I said earlier that doesn't win him the popularity contest. Good thing this is a Greatest Super HERO contest.
Except France didn't "give up"
Indeed..
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France surrendered very early in WW2 due to fear of a repeat of WW1. its just its an ongoing joke in America and the UK that France gives up easily. it really has no meaning in historical fact, but back to the point of the picture of cap saying," you think this letter on my head stands for France?" his enemy wondered why he didn't give up and cap referred to the ongoing joke.
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France surrendered very early in WW2 due to fear of a repeat of WW1. its just its an ongoing joke in America and the UK that France gives up easily. it really has no meaning in historical fact, but back to the point of the picture of cap saying," you think this letter on my head stands for France?" his enemy wondered why he didn't give up and cap referred to the ongoing joke.
Captain America is the best for the following reason. Steve Rogers wanted to fight along his fellow solders before he had Super powers. he was week and had no business going into a fight, but he felt it was his duty to fight along with the other Americans who were laying down their life. he was a hero before he was a superhero. in contrast superman was born with super powers so he thought, "well hell I guess no one can beat me so I better protect everybody else". the same can be said about thor, and wonder woman. batman turned himself into a superhero to avenge his parents death using his billions. had his parents not died would there be a batman or just a really nice charitable billionaire? spider-man was using his powers for personal gain at first. he's better now but has his personal interest always on alert. iron man's reason mirrors batman. without personal necessity would there be a iron man? Steve Rogers was going to be a hero, weather as super solder or a statistic on D-Day. plus we aren't talking about the most popular superhero, or the most powerful. we are talking about the greatest super HERO.
I honestly think they should have Cap listening to that song through an ear piece while coming off a train or something in the new movie. You know, like not the whole song, just enough for people who know that song to be like F**K Yeah!
I honestly think they should have Cap listening to that song through an ear piece while coming off a train or something in the new movie. You know, like not the whole song, just enough for people who know that song to be like F**K Yeah!
That would be funny as heck but it would be out of character. Maybe he could hear it and have a WTF look on his face.
For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.
Firstly, you're dumb.
Secondly, you're wrong.
Thirdly, shut up.
Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.
No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.
He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.
He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.
Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?
Hell no!
I mean seriously, think about it for a second.
By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.
@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?
For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.
Firstly, you're dumb.
Secondly, you're wrong.
Thirdly, shut up.
Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.
No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.
He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.
He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.
Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?
Hell no!
I mean seriously, think about it for a second.
By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.
@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?
The only thing I disagree with is that I am his biggest fan.
For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.
Firstly, you're dumb.
Secondly, you're wrong.
Thirdly, shut up.
Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.
No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.
He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.
He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.
Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?
Hell no!
I mean seriously, think about it for a second.
By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.
@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?
Though I wouldn't consider myself this Vine's foremost Cap fan, there's also @slimj87d @tg1982
@guardian_of_gravity: finally! I've been waiting for a post like yours, thank you.
@bj365: NO Cap is the best
For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.
Firstly, you're dumb.
Secondly, you're wrong.
Thirdly, shut up.
Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.
No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.
He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.
He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.
Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?
Hell no!
I mean seriously, think about it for a second.
By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.
@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?
Though I wouldn't consider myself this Vine's foremost Cap fan, there's also @slimj87d @tg1982
Well said @guardian_of_gravity!!!!!!!!! I couldn't agree more! Thumbs up! :-)
@veshark Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I really enjoyed the post! :-)
I think this post is a bit provocative, because it seems to suggest that by being America's champion, Cap is the best hero ever, which doesn't help the view some have of Americans having an over-blown opinion of their place in the world (being a Brit, I accept we are guilty of that crime too..!!) Of course the op may have not meant it this way. Anyway, I think you could argue that he is Marvel's greatest hero, using the strict definition of what makes a hero, but Superman is for me the worlds greatest hero ever, having saved the world from enemy threads since 1938.
THATS WHAT I BEEN TRYING TO SAY! only 1,000,000 times better. I have a friend in Thailand who loves Cap.
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