#151 Edited by crazy8 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

That's probably right about the world in the sense of popularity, but I believe that has more to do with his name and the unpopularity of America to the rest of the world then Captain America himself. if Steve Rogers had been called some thing else, maybe other countries would embrace him. but look at his story, look at who Steve Rogers is in the sense of heroism. that's what makes him the best Hero. super or not. heck even cap was uncertain about America. Capt. America and falcon number 176.

#152 Posted by ImaLoserForBeingHere (149 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man, Batman , superman are all better. And for the record, I think Deathstroke is a better character than he is.

#153 Posted by Alexander505 (2407 posts) - - Show Bio

If we take the Ultimate version, is obvious that Cap can be accepted only by americans...

#154 Edited by crazy8 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

@alexander505: You might want to read the rest of that comic and that series. He is referring to France as a means to say he's not going to give up like France in a fight. But, He has always had a great pride for his country, and as I said earlier that doesn't win him the popularity contest. Good thing this is a Greatest Super HERO contest.

#155 Posted by Vascillator (203 posts) - - Show Bio

Greatest ever....not really. I've always preferred him over Superman as posterboy good guy though.

#156 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

Greatest ever.

#157 Posted by JetiiMitra (9338 posts) - - Show Bio

I've never really understood Captain America's appeal. I think he was supposed to be hugely popular within the Marvel Universe, and that popularity and character praise he got from other characters was transferred to the audience for no real reason. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike him, I just don't feel one way or the other and don't understand why anyone would place him at "The greatest superhero ever."

#158 Edited by deaditegonzo (4145 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on your opinion?

#159 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (41057 posts) - - Show Bio

@crazy8 said:

@alexander505: You might want to read the rest of that comic and that series. He is referring to France as a means to say he's not going to give up like France in a fight. But, He has always had a great pride for his country, and as I said earlier that doesn't win him the popularity contest. Good thing this is a Greatest Super HERO contest.

Except France didn't "give up"

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#161 Posted by deaditegonzo (4145 posts) - - Show Bio
#162 Edited by Wolverine08 (48754 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Cap is even better than Superman.

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#163 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio
#165 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio
#166 Posted by TDK_1997 (15968 posts) - - Show Bio

Not even close.THe best of them all is Superman and right after him there can be only one......The Dark Knight.

#167 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio
#168 Edited by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio
#169 Posted by TDK_1997 (15968 posts) - - Show Bio
#170 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (2587 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman then Cap

#171 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997: Yes I disagree Cap is the best...of course that is just an opinion.

#172 Posted by TDK_1997 (15968 posts) - - Show Bio

@spider11211: Thorugh the years Marvel changed him just too much and he is no longer the character he used to be.He's not even in my Top 3 for greatest heroes ever.

#173 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997: You do have a good point, while I love some of the stories they have seemed to change him some. One thing I could not stand is that he was very much like Jack Bower and said Damn every other sentence.

That is not Cap.

#174 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2378 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mego_Stretch_Hulk

said:

I think he's far and away the greatest. Who do you guys got that's better?

Superman/Batman imo.

BB

#175 Posted by Wolverine08 (48754 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

@spider11211: Thorugh the years Marvel changed him just too much and he is no longer the character he used to be.He's not even in my Top 3 for greatest heroes ever.

How has Marvel changed Cap?

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#176 Edited by TDK_1997 (15968 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Well in AvX he was a d*ckhead all the way and also he has changed from that good boy scout to a guy who always works in extreme measures and is ready to hurt someone if he doesn't do what he wants him to do.

@tdk_1997: You do have a good point, while I love some of the stories they have seemed to change him some. One thing I could not stand is that he was very much like Jack Bower and said Damn every other sentence.

That is not Cap.

Word.

#177 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap was always the voice of reason, now he is portrayed as a bit of a hothead.

That just does not fit.

#178 Edited by Alexander505 (2407 posts) - - Show Bio

@crazy8 said:

@alexander505: You might want to read the rest of that comic and that series. He is referring to France as a means to say he's not going to give up like France in a fight. But, He has always had a great pride for his country, and as I said earlier that doesn't win him the popularity contest. Good thing this is a Greatest Super HERO contest.

Except France didn't "give up"

Indeed..

#179 Posted by crazy8 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

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@alexander505:

France surrendered very early in WW2 due to fear of a repeat of WW1. its just its an ongoing joke in America and the UK that France gives up easily. it really has no meaning in historical fact, but back to the point of the picture of cap saying," you think this letter on my head stands for France?" his enemy wondered why he didn't give up and cap referred to the ongoing joke.

#180 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

@crazy8 said:

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@alexander505:

France surrendered very early in WW2 due to fear of a repeat of WW1. its just its an ongoing joke in America and the UK that France gives up easily. it really has no meaning in historical fact, but back to the point of the picture of cap saying," you think this letter on my head stands for France?" his enemy wondered why he didn't give up and cap referred to the ongoing joke.

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#181 Posted by crazy8 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America is the best for the following reason. Steve Rogers wanted to fight along his fellow solders before he had Super powers. he was week and had no business going into a fight, but he felt it was his duty to fight along with the other Americans who were laying down their life. he was a hero before he was a superhero. in contrast superman was born with super powers so he thought, "well hell I guess no one can beat me so I better protect everybody else". the same can be said about thor, and wonder woman. batman turned himself into a superhero to avenge his parents death using his billions. had his parents not died would there be a batman or just a really nice charitable billionaire? spider-man was using his powers for personal gain at first. he's better now but has his personal interest always on alert. iron man's reason mirrors batman. without personal necessity would there be a iron man? Steve Rogers was going to be a hero, weather as super solder or a statistic on D-Day. plus we aren't talking about the most popular superhero, or the most powerful. we are talking about the greatest super HERO.

#182 Posted by tigerkaya (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

Thats debatable, but I know this he never had the chance to kill Hitler.

#183 Posted by knighthood (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

Not even close.

#184 Edited by crazy8 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

No, but he did stop Nixon from taking over America. and That human torch isn't even around anymore. They should update the "Secret Empire" with Dick Channey, but that's a different blog

#185 Posted by Doomnaut (2442 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is the greatest superhero.

#186 Edited by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

America F*&^ YAH!

#187 Edited by crazy8 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

@spider11211:

I honestly think they should have Cap listening to that song through an ear piece while coming off a train or something in the new movie. You know, like not the whole song, just enough for people who know that song to be like F**K Yeah!

#188 Edited by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

@crazy8 said:

@spider11211:

I honestly think they should have Cap listening to that song through an ear piece while coming off a train or something in the new movie. You know, like not the whole song, just enough for people who know that song to be like F**K Yeah!

That would be funny as heck but it would be out of character. Maybe he could hear it and have a WTF look on his face.

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#189 Edited by Guardian_of_Gravity (2990 posts) - - Show Bio

For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.

Firstly, you're dumb.

Secondly, you're wrong.

Thirdly, shut up.

Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.

No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.

He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.

He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.

Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?

Hell no!

I mean seriously, think about it for a second.

By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.

@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?

#190 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23390 posts) - - Show Bio

Providing one's never heard of DC Comics or Spider-Man, yeah, Cap's probably the best.

#191 Posted by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.

Firstly, you're dumb.

Secondly, you're wrong.

Thirdly, shut up.

Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.

No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.

He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.

He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.

Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?

Hell no!

I mean seriously, think about it for a second.

By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.

@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?

The only thing I disagree with is that I am his biggest fan.

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#192 Posted by Veshark (9326 posts) - - Show Bio

For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.

Firstly, you're dumb.

Secondly, you're wrong.

Thirdly, shut up.

Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.

No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.

He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.

He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.

Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?

Hell no!

I mean seriously, think about it for a second.

By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.

@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?

Captain America approves this post

Though I wouldn't consider myself this Vine's foremost Cap fan, there's also @slimj87d @tg1982

#193 Posted by tigerkaya (1420 posts) - - Show Bio
#194 Edited by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio

I have almost every issue of Cap......he is the man.

#195 Edited by bj365 (41 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America is one of the best just not the best. Batman on the other hand may have a chance

#196 Posted by tigerkaya (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@bj365: You mean the same Batman that used a satellite know every heroes secrete identity easily hackable for any tech villain download its secrets.

#197 Edited by spider11211 (1188 posts) - - Show Bio
#198 Edited by tg1982 (2748 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

@guardian_of_gravity said:

For the people who think that Captain America has no significance outside of America, allow me to say this as a Danish girl in Sweden.

Firstly, you're dumb.

Secondly, you're wrong.

Thirdly, shut up.

Captain America is not about representing the nation of America and all of it's faults and flaws. He's not there to represent the political or cultural side of America. No he's much more than that. He's not some guy there to shout "FREEDOM" and punch terrorists in the jaw. Nor is he just some flag waving Ameriwank fantasy.

No, Captain America is about the IDEALS of America. He represents the IDEAS put into America's founding. He transcends America because he does not represent the flaws of the actual nation, but he represents the good, pure, and just IDEALS behind it. He's not about left or right, or honey boo boo or west coast liberals. He's about Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law.

He represents everything America should be, everything America could be. He's an ideal to be looked up to and strived towards for not just Americans, but all people, because the ideals he represents are universal, not bound by borders or nationality or race or ethnicity or anything like that.

He really should not be seen as the country of America personified, where he'd represent the errors, problems, and general bungle ups America has made on the world stage. No, no, look at him as the Idea of America personified. In that way, he transcends the country whose flag he's stylized onto his suit. In that way he is not just a hero for America, but the entire world.

Because is there really ever a time or place where Freedom, Democracy, Justice, Equality, Altruism, and Rule of Law are things to be rejected? Is there ever a time when we should bring on Oppression, Tyranny, Injustice, Unfairness, Cruelty, and Banditry into our lives or the lives of the world?

Hell no!

I mean seriously, think about it for a second.

By the way, the same applies to guys like Captain Canuck and Captain Britain or other well done Superheroes who represent a nation.

@veshark As Cap's biggest fan on the vine, do you approve of my little rant?

Captain America approves this post

Though I wouldn't consider myself this Vine's foremost Cap fan, there's also @slimj87d @tg1982

Well said @guardian_of_gravity!!!!!!!!! I couldn't agree more! Thumbs up! :-)

@veshark Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I really enjoyed the post! :-)

#199 Posted by Bezza (4833 posts) - - Show Bio

I think this post is a bit provocative, because it seems to suggest that by being America's champion, Cap is the best hero ever, which doesn't help the view some have of Americans having an over-blown opinion of their place in the world (being a Brit, I accept we are guilty of that crime too..!!) Of course the op may have not meant it this way. Anyway, I think you could argue that he is Marvel's greatest hero, using the strict definition of what makes a hero, but Superman is for me the worlds greatest hero ever, having saved the world from enemy threads since 1938.

#200 Posted by crazy8 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

@guardian_of_gravity:

THATS WHAT I BEEN TRYING TO SAY! only 1,000,000 times better. I have a friend in Thailand who loves Cap.