Zatanna vs Dr. Strange

Who?

gah...

brain shuts down even considoring the fight

uhhh...

can Zatanna distract Strange with her fishnet stockings?

no?

ok, this ones going to Strange lol

M

Methos says:

"gah... *brain shuts down even considoring the fight* uhhh... can Zatanna distract Strange with her fishnet stockings? no? ok, this ones going to Strange lol M"

Lol. I wasn't sure. I thought Strange would take it but Zatanna is a reality manipulator. I wanna get a good feel for Strange's power.

from what i know, Strange is a really high level sorcerer... out of Zatanna's league

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Methos says:

"from what i know, Strange is a really high level sorcerer... out of Zatanna's league M"

I'm never talking to anybody about DC besides you, buck, or forever. I asked some idiot about Zatanna, and the moron said Zatanna can defeat Strange so I thought to myself "hmmm... Let me see... I'll post it on the Vine and have somebody get back at me"

Zatanna is a high level sorceress, but Strange is way up there on the power leagues

wasn't he Sorcerer Supreme in one reality?

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Methos says:

"Zatanna is a high level sorceress, but Strange is way up there on the power leagues wasn't he Sorcerer Supreme in one reality? M"

I thought he was in all of them.

dunno lol

as i said, i know he's powerful... but thats about it lol

M

Dr. Strange cant be touched.

what issue was the last pic from?

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Methos says:

"what issue was the last pic from?M"

There all from the final issue of Avengers Disassembled. Chaos part 4. #503

cheers...

think i'll be getting that, artwork looks awesome :D

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Methos says:

"cheers...think i'll be getting that, artwork looks awesome :DM"

Its not that clear but its the whole issue from start to finish.

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/Wanda%20Maximoff/

cheers, i've been wanting to get into Wanda's stuff for a while..

where would ya reccomend starting?

M

Methos says:

"cheers, i've been wanting to get into Wanda's stuff for a while..where would ya reccomend starting?M"

I really couldn't tell ya. I found her early stuff really boring but now after Avengers Disassembled and House of M it all comes together.

hmmm... thanks :D

M

Methos says:

"hmmm... thanks :DM"

If I could find this book I have I could direct you to some vital storys in her character development.

that would be helpful...

she seems like a really cool character :D

M

Avengers #16 Wanda quits the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and makes her debut on the Avengers.

Avengers #128 Wanda trains with real witch Agatha Harkness. This is were she learns to tap into her Probability Control.

Gaint Size Avengers #4 Wanda marries Vision.

Avengers #161-171 Single handedly beats Ultron.

Vision and the Scarlet Witch (vol.1)#4] Learns Magneto is her father.

I have more if you want em.

ohhh... thanks :D

M

Eternal Chaos says:

"Methos says:

"from what i know, Strange is a really high level sorcerer... out of Zatanna's league M"

I'm never talking to anybody about DC besides you, buck, or forever. I asked some idiot about Zatanna, and the moron said Zatanna can defeat Strange so I thought to myself "hmmm... Let me see... I'll post it on the Vine and have somebody get back at me""

I think Strange's power level is a bit deceptive. Marvel has very few magical heroes (Strange and Wanda being the most obvious) where as DC has quite a few (Zee obviously, Doc Fate, Jason Blood, Shazam, Enchantress..). While I think Strange is more powerful than Zee, she is one of the more powerful magic heroes in the DCU. Seven Soldiers and Countdown have shown that her magical knowledge is quite impressive as she inherited alot from her father. I think a battle would test Strange, but that ultimately he'd win. I don't know who said Zee would win, but I don't think they'd be a moron for thinking it, just under-estimating Strange.

I think a pic of Zee and Mary is in order:

Finally a battle I can get my teeth into, I belive Doctor Strange would win this one, but not as easily as you all might think, Zatanna is damn powerful, Im not happy as they have not been really showing this in recent Dc comics, But I think she would hold her own , But in the end Strange would come up tops , I mean he is the Master after all.

What issue is that Zatanna picture from?

What if Zatanna and Strange fought in a mirror universe? lol

Both the one in my post and my current avatar are from Countdown #37

I think Zatanna would win, she comes from a long line of magicians and races of magic. I think she is more powerful.

I say Dr. Strange

This goes to Dr.Stange because Zatanna is not as experienced. She's powerful. Just I doubt she's as powerful as Dr.Strange.

Damn I posted in the wrong thread. Is Zatanna that powerful? She took Batman's memory's and before Despero had given the villains back theres he had figured out what she did.

i think the fact that DR. Fate doesnt have to actually say the spells will be a big advantage where as Z does, if she cant talk she cant fight essentaily

I'd give this one to Doc Strange because of his experience, but with Zee's raw power, it would be one hell of a nice fight to watch!

its up to who ever writes it

jor-el says:

"its up to who ever writes it"

True.

I'm not sure where this idea that Zee is inexperienced comes from. She is the daughter of a powerful magician (Zatara) and was essentially trained by him. She is also a former Justice Leaguer. If anything, she is probably one of the most experienced magi in the DCU at the moment. When Superman's trouble with Arion began, it was Zatanna he asked for advice, just as Mary Marvel is now with the Wizard gone. If you look at the bottom of the first page you will see that she has alot of magical paraphanalia to learn from.

Cosmic Sentinel says:

"jor-el says:

"its up to who ever writes it"

True.

I'm not sure where this idea that Zee is inexperienced comes from. She is the daughter of a powerful magician (Zatara) and was essentially trained by him. She is also a former Justice Leaguer. If anything, she is probably one of the most experienced magi in the DCU at the moment. When Superman's trouble with Arion began, it was Zatanna he asked for advice, just as Mary Marvel is now with the Wizard gone. If you look at the bottom of the first page you will see that she has alot of magical paraphanalia to learn from."

I don't think she's innexperienced, I just think she's less experienced than Dr.Strange. Marvel characters seem to always go to Dr.Strange for advice on magical enemies etc. In DC they usually either go to Captain Marvel or Zatanna, so you're right. I just think that, in the end, Dr.Strange would win this fight. I've been called a DC fanboy so nobody can say i'm a Marvel fanboy :P

Oh, I agree, Strange would probably win. I prefer DC, but it's not like I boycott Marvel or anything. I read what I like. I am a Zatanna fanboy though and proud of it ;)

Strange FTW

Here's the reality of it... Magic has way too many undefined rules in both Marvel AND in DC for us to accurately pick a solid winner. Essentially on Monday, April 17th at 2:54 pm in Orlando during partly cloudy weather, Zatanna might not be able to call upon much more than a few minor alteration spells while Dr. Strange might be capable of calling upon the entirety of the entropic powers of five universes simultaneously while also keeping her completely immobilized with the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak. On the other hand, on Thursday, September 5th at 4:17 am in Toronto during a snowstorm, Dr. Strange might attempt to cast a transitory spell to no effect while Zatanna effortlessly summons forth a demigod-like beast of the nether-void pits of the Eleventh Hell that submits completely to her control, or as she would more accurately say, "lortnoc ym ot yletelpmoc timbus." To further complicate things, on Tuesday, July 9th in New York City at 12:00 noon during scattered thunderstorms, Dr. Strange and Zatanna could find themselves restricted to mere human hand-to-hand combat by the unknown forces and keepers of the magic powers of beyond for reasons that are unknown to anyone but the two magic wielders. As if that didn't complicate matters badly enough, on Saturday, January 1st at 12:00 midnight during a total lunar eclipse, Zatanna and Dr. Strange might have to take their confrontation to another plane of existence entirely for fear that just the collateral damage from the conflict could lay waste to not only the current dimension, but also seventeen parallel dimensions as well with a potential for creating irreparable rifts in the space/time continuum. All that and you know the worst of it? Time of day, location, and conditions of the environment may or may not have any effect at all in that particular encounter.

Old Strange wins easy, current Dr Strange I can't really say

Strange wins.Period.

Even in doctors strange's modern form he is the most powerful (modern magician) in either universe. zatanna stands no chance

" Here's the reality of it... Magic has way too many undefined rules in both Marvel AND in DC for us to accurately pick a solid winner. Essentially on Monday, April 17th at 2:54 pm in Orlando during partly cloudy weather, Zatanna might not be able to call upon much more than a few minor alteration spells while Dr. Strange might be capable of calling upon the entirety of the entropic powers of five universes simultaneously while also keeping her completely immobilized with the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak. On the other hand, on Thursday, September 5th at 4:17 am in Toronto during a snowstorm, Dr. Strange might attempt to cast a transitory spell to no effect while Zatanna effortlessly summons forth a demigod-like beast of the nether-void pits of the Eleventh Hell that submits completely to her control, or as she would more accurately say, "lortnoc ym ot yletelpmoc timbus." To further complicate things, on Tuesday, July 9th in New York City at 12:00 noon during scattered thunderstorms, Dr. Strange and Zatanna could find themselves restricted to mere human hand-to-hand combat by the unknown forces and keepers of the magic powers of beyond for reasons that are unknown to anyone but the two magic wielders. As if that didn't complicate matters badly enough, on Saturday, January 1st at 12:00 midnight during a total lunar eclipse, Zatanna and Dr. Strange might have to take their confrontation to another plane of existence entirely for fear that just the collateral damage from the conflict could lay waste to not only the current dimension, but also seventeen parallel dimensions as well with a potential for creating irreparable rifts in the space/time continuum. All that and you know the worst of it? Time of day, location, and conditions of the environment may or may not have any effect at all in that particular encounter.

See my point by now? I'm gonna have to say mad props to the OP on this fight. Very evenly matched for reasons of which we have no idea why. The ever waxing and waning powers of these two transcend our ability to really determine a true victory. Honestly, I think if they ever do another Marvel/DC crossover, this is one issue they MUST touch on.

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I love Dr. strange but i have to say Zatanna.

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I think Zatanna would win, she comes from a long line of magicians and races of magic. I think she is more powerful.

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Been done many times. Strange