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#2  Edited By geraldthesloth

Dont you mean pre retcon brothers since they where retconned?

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#3  Edited By randumo24

Can anybody beat this version of the beyonder?
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#4  Edited By geraldthesloth
@randumo24: TOAA Man of Miracles Lucifer Alien Entity etc..
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@geraldthesloth said:
"Dont you mean pre retcon brothers since they where retconned? "

Yes
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@geraldthesloth said:
" @randumo24: TOAA Man of Miracles Lucifer Alien Entity etc.. "

Pre-Retcon Beyonder would easily beat Lucifer Morningstar, and would probably stalemate TOAA and MoM.
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#7  Edited By geraldthesloth
@The Mjolnir Wielder: Doubt it, Beyonder has a weak will and can easily be manipulated.
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#8  Edited By randumo24

hmm
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#9  Edited By Kael

The brothers are the most powerfull in there Multiverse.
The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre.
P.R. Beyonder is strong but not that strong. 
He can´t beat Lucifer. He´s just a cosmic cube.
Even half of a cosmic cube.

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#10  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Kael said:
"The brothers are the most powerfull in there Multiverse. The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. P.R. Beyonder is strong but not that strong.  He can´t beat Lucifer. He´s just a cosmic cube. Even half of a cosmic cube. "
this is precon beyonder bud, the guy who is on TOAA level where not even LT,eternity,galactus,chaos,death etc etc could take him down all together, beyonder was able to crack apart the multiverse just by getting angry.
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@Kael said:
"The brothers are the most powerfull in there Multiverse. The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. P.R. Beyonder is strong but not that strong.  He can´t beat Lucifer. He´s just a cosmic cube. Even half of a cosmic cube. "

You're referring to Post-Retcon Beyonder
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@geraldthesloth said:

" @The Mjolnir Wielder: Doubt it, Beyonder has a weak will and can easily be manipulated. "


I've heard that Lucifer isn't even omnipotent. How could he beat Beyonder?
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#13  Edited By King_Saturn
what can these Brothers do ?
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#14  Edited By randumo24
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"@Kael said:
"The brothers are the most powerfull in there Multiverse. The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. P.R. Beyonder is strong but not that strong.  He can´t beat Lucifer. He´s just a cosmic cube. Even half of a cosmic cube. "
this is precon beyonder bud, the guy who is on TOAA level where not even LT,eternity,galactus,chaos,death etc etc could take him down all together, beyonder was able to crack apart the multiverse just by getting angry. "

exactly
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@King Saturn said:
"what can these Brothers do ? "

They're omnipotent and omnipresent totals of the DC/Marvel Multiverse
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#16  Edited By King_Saturn
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @King Saturn said:
"what can these Brothers do ? "
They're omnipotent and omnipresent totals of the DC/Marvel Multiverse "
oh gawd... you mean there are more Supreme Beings who exist in DC and Marvel ? 
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#17  Edited By geraldthesloth
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @geraldthesloth said:

" @The Mjolnir Wielder: Doubt it, Beyonder has a weak will and can easily be manipulated. "

I've heard that Lucifer isn't even omnipotent. How could he beat Beyonder? "
You don't have to be omnipotent to beat anyone  Lucifer can trick beyonder into just about any damn thing he wants
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#18  Edited By randumo24
@King Saturn said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @King Saturn said:
"what can these Brothers do ? "
They're omnipotent and omnipresent totals of the DC/Marvel Multiverse "
oh gawd... you mean there are more Supreme Beings who exist in DC and Marvel ?  "

lol, of course, there needed to be more.
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@geraldthesloth said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @geraldthesloth said:

" @The Mjolnir Wielder: Doubt it, Beyonder has a weak will and can easily be manipulated. "

I've heard that Lucifer isn't even omnipotent. How could he beat Beyonder? "
You don't have to be omnipotent to beat anyone  Lucifer can trick beyonder into just about any damn thing he wants "

Or Frank could simply turn Lucifer into dust with a snap of a finger....... Let's just agree to disagree
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#20  Edited By randumo24
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@geraldthesloth said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @geraldthesloth said:

" @The Mjolnir Wielder: Doubt it, Beyonder has a weak will and can easily be manipulated. "

I've heard that Lucifer isn't even omnipotent. How could he beat Beyonder? "
You don't have to be omnipotent to beat anyone  Lucifer can trick beyonder into just about any damn thing he wants "
Or Frank could simply turn Lucifer into dust with a snap of a finger....... Let's just agree to disagree "

ah, dust, how about something more interesting?
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@King Saturn said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @King Saturn said:
"what can these Brothers do ? "
They're omnipotent and omnipresent totals of the DC/Marvel Multiverse "
oh gawd... you mean there are more Supreme Beings who exist in DC and Marvel ?  "

lol XD King, they just haven't learned that one PR Beyonder is enough
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#22  Edited By pooty

Yeah are not the brothers the makers of the ENTIRE Dc and Marvel worlds,multiverses etc. how could anyone beat them?

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#23  Edited By King_Saturn
@randumo24 said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @King Saturn said:
"what can these Brothers do ? "
They're omnipotent and omnipresent totals of the DC/Marvel Multiverse "
oh gawd... you mean there are more Supreme Beings who exist in DC and Marvel ?  "
lol, of course, there needed to be more. "
I think we need less actually...
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#24  Edited By xyrzrockrain

I thought that the brothers are LT and spectre? 
 
WHo are the brothers? any info about them would be great

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@xyrzrockrain said:
"I thought that the brothers are LT and spectre?  WHo are the brothers? any info about them would be great "

Actually, LT and Spectre are their guardians. As for the PR Brothers, they're the sum total of the DC/Marvel Multiverse and have unlimited cosmic power as well as omnipotence and omnipresence.
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#26  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @xyrzrockrain said:
"I thought that the brothers are LT and spectre?  WHo are the brothers? any info about them would be great "
Actually, LT and Spectre are their guardians. As for the PR Brothers, they're the sum total of the DC/Marvel Multiverse and have unlimited cosmic power as well as omnipotence and omnipresence. "
Didn't the combo of the LT and Spectre actually manage to stop the brothers?
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#27  Edited By randumo24
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @xyrzrockrain said:
"I thought that the brothers are LT and spectre?  WHo are the brothers? any info about them would be great "
Actually, LT and Spectre are their guardians. As for the PR Brothers, they're the sum total of the DC/Marvel Multiverse and have unlimited cosmic power as well as omnipotence and omnipresence. "
Didn't the combo of the LT and Spectre actually manage to stop the brothers? "

If that's the case, Beyonder wins hands down.
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@Lance Uppercut said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @xyrzrockrain said:
"I thought that the brothers are LT and spectre?  WHo are the brothers? any info about them would be great "
Actually, LT and Spectre are their guardians. As for the PR Brothers, they're the sum total of the DC/Marvel Multiverse and have unlimited cosmic power as well as omnipotence and omnipresence. "
Didn't the combo of the LT and Spectre actually manage to stop the brothers? "

No. The Brothers once fought eachother and LT and The Spectre couldn't break it up. They couldn't even get the Brothers attention let alone start a fight with them.
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#29  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@randumo24 said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @xyrzrockrain said:
"I thought that the brothers are LT and spectre?  WHo are the brothers? any info about them would be great "
Actually, LT and Spectre are their guardians. As for the PR Brothers, they're the sum total of the DC/Marvel Multiverse and have unlimited cosmic power as well as omnipotence and omnipresence. "
Didn't the combo of the LT and Spectre actually manage to stop the brothers? "
If that's the case, Beyonder wins hands down. "
It happened when the LT and the Spectre fused the brothers, creating the amalgam universe. They were struggling, but they basically owned all of DC and Marvel.
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#31  Edited By Valkaad

Pre retcon beyonder beats EVERYONE! He was stated to be "millions of times more powerful than ALL the multiverse combined". 

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#32  Edited By celestialheroin

do the brothers have a profile here on the vine

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#33  Edited By randumo24

Beyonder wins
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#34  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy

PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder... 
 
I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above... 
 
GBD
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#35  Edited By randumo24
@GamorasBigDaddy said:
"PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder...  I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above...  GBD "

LT isn't close to being in Beyonders league either.
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#36  Edited By negamegas

The Brothers(Not really any Pre-anything because they were never really followed through the later comics) just clap their hands and Beyonder is gone. 
 
Fun fact.... In the Amalgamverse Anti-Monitor's Amalgam Partner was Beyonder.

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#37  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@GamorasBigDaddy said:
" PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder...  I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above...  GBD "
Like a fly? So I guess you missed the part when the LT and the Spectre forcibly fused the brothers in to one.
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#38  Edited By negamegas
@Lance Uppercut:
No, the brothers themselves decided to fuse together. The Spectre and LT only chance of saving everyone was to amalgated everything.
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#39  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
" PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder...  I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above...  GBD "
Like a fly? So I guess you missed the part when the LT and the Spectre forcibly fused the brothers in to one."

LOL, Nope that did'nt happen at all, go recheck your facts. They where nothing to the brothers.. 
 
GBD
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#40  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@GamorasBigDaddy said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
" PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder...  I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above...  GBD "
Like a fly? So I guess you missed the part when the LT and the Spectre forcibly fused the brothers in to one."
LOL, Nope that did'nt happen at all, go recheck your facts. They where nothing to the brothers..  GBD "
You're in no position to tell anyone to check facts. You've already shown a very poor grasp of comics as a whole.
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#41  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy
@randumo24 said:
"@GamorasBigDaddy said:
"PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder...  I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above...  GBD "
LT isn't close to being in Beyonders league either. "

Yea one of the few who actually showed to be superior to LT On panel. Though even Beyonder did'nt do it as dramatically as the brothers did... 
 
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#42  Edited By Tevnoba

By listed narration I think PR Beyonder might be able to beat the brothers, maybe.

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#43  Edited By pooty

how can the beyonder be more powerful than the multiverse that spawned him. 
The Beyonder is the sum total of a parallel reality called the Beyond-Realm or simply "Beyond" 
He is the sum of ONE reality. the brothers created all realities. or am i missing something

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#44  Edited By xyrzrockrain

Are the brothers TOAA and Presence? 
 
They made DC and Marvel. 
 
Any scans about the brothers? or comic info?

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#45  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
" PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder...  I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above...  GBD "
Like a fly? So I guess you missed the part when the LT and the Spectre forcibly fused the brothers in to one."
LOL, Nope that did'nt happen at all, go recheck your facts. They where nothing to the brothers..  GBD "
You're in no position to tell anyone to check facts. You've already shown a very poor grasp of comics as a whole. "

LOL, don't get mad cause I have proved you wrong on several occasions already! 
Not once can you show something I said that happened in a comic that is'nt true! 
 
GBD
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#46  Edited By Superparody

hmmm I wanna say the borhters because they are a multiversal being from both sides of marvel and dc where beyonder is just marvel
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#47  Edited By Ronyc

If there is anyhing that could stop PR Beyonder besides TOAA/Presence its these guys.

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#48  Edited By Tevnoba
@Superparody said:
" hmmm I wanna say the borhters because they are a multiversal being from both sides of marvel and dc where beyonder is just marvel "
Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality.
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#49  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@GamorasBigDaddy said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
" PreRecton Brothers is one of the very VERY few that actually has a possability of winning against PR Beyonder...  I mean LT was like a fly to the brothers, literally, so there way there in his league if not above...  GBD "
Like a fly? So I guess you missed the part when the LT and the Spectre forcibly fused the brothers in to one."
LOL, Nope that did'nt happen at all, go recheck your facts. They where nothing to the brothers..  GBD "
You're in no position to tell anyone to check facts. You've already shown a very poor grasp of comics as a whole. "
LOL, don't get mad cause I have proved you wrong on several occasions already! Not once can you show something I said that happened in a comic that is'nt true!  GBD "
Let's list off the dumb things you've said so far.
 
1. Thanos' most powerful incarnation was with the IG. Wrong.
2. Scarlet Witch can warp COIE AM, MJJ, and COIE Spectre out of existence. Even more wrong.
3. 616 Jaspers, an omniversal reality warper, can be destroyed by HOM Wanda, a being marketed as a multiversal reality warper, but couldn't even remove all the mutants from earth. Wrong.
4. Gamora can beat Ms. Marvel
5. Gamora can beat Daken
 
The list goes on further, but I'd rather not waste the rest of my day. Whereas I actually have opinions that are valid and people listen to, you've proved to be an arrogant snob who ultimately understands very little about comics as a whole. I've tried being nice to you, but apparently it really doesn't work either way. So, when you can provide an intellectual debate, perhaps I'll even think about responding to any of your posts. Until then, I have better things to do with my time.
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@Ronyc said:
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If there is anyhing that could stop PR Beyonder besides TOAA/Presence its these guys.

"

Agreed