Dr Doom Vs Kyle Rayner

Topic started by Methos on Oct. 24, 2008. Last post by Kimikirai 1 year, 3 months ago.
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Dr Doom
Dr Doom
Kyle Rayner
Kyle Rayner
Dr Doom Vs Kyle Rayner


As usual, if you don't know the characters, look them up before posting...

Doom

Kyle

Please use logic and reasoning in your posts

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Post by Kimikirai (488 posts) See mini bio

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Whats the rules here?


Post by Scarlet Thor (945 posts) See mini bio

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Does Doom has his magic powers too or only armor?


Post by Methos (41,324 posts) See mini bio

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random encounter on earth...

no holds barred

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Post by erik (8,237 posts) See mini bio

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Is Kyle Rayner just a regular GL here or Ion?


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Methos said:
"random encounter on earth...

no holds barred

M"
Kyle in a stomp
The only way i can see doom being a threat is if he has ample prep time


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the doom force!


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erik said:
"Is Kyle Rayner just a regular GL here or Ion?"

regular Kyle as pictured

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If Doom has prep..this is a curbstomp.Without it..Kyle could probably win by the skin of his teeth.Not many things even dent Doom's armor.Not to mention his ridiculously powerful magic and mind transfer.He took on Sentry without prep and and temporarily blinded him.


Post by Midnightist (10,095 posts) See mini bio

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Rayner Doom may be a genius and have tech but he is limited in the assets he has. Rayner has the power to turn is imagination into a reality. Doom can be over powered by Sue Storm and her powers really are very similar to a GL but on a lower level. Even if Doom used what little magic he has I don't think the power he has could put down Rayner


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Scarlet Thor said:
"Does Doom has his magic powers too or only armor?"


Post by LegendaryKYJ (1,080 posts) See mini bio

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If it's bloodlusted, fight ends the moment the bell rings. There's literally nothing Doom can do.



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Scarlet Thor said:
"Scarlet Thor said:
"Does Doom has his magic powers too or only armor?"
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In this fight or in general?


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Scarlet Thor said:
"Scarlet Thor said:
"Does Doom has his magic powers too or only armor?"
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magic... armor...

whatever you want, site both if you really want

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Post by Light (9,252 posts) See mini bio

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doesnt doom have like an impregnable shield over himself... how would Kyle break through that?


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Doom's Magic is only next to Ghost Rider,Strange & Clea.Strange at one point took on Galactus..and he wasn't killed.


Post by Kimikirai (488 posts) See mini bio

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Questions:
  1. How good is Kyle's resistance to mental attacks?
  2. What is the greatest force he has been showed to exert?


Post by Scarlet Thor (945 posts) See mini bio

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Vance Astro said:
"Doom's Magic is only next to Ghost Rider,Strange & Clea.Strange at one point took on Galactus..and he wasn't killed."
I would add Scarlet Witch in her chaos magic days...
Yeah I vote doom


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Light said:
"doesnt doom have like an impregnable shield over himself... how would Kyle break through that?"
kyle could phase through 


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Kimikirai said:
"Questions:
  1. How good is Kyle's resistance to mental attacks?
  2. What is the greatest force he has been showed to exert?

damn good... and it's not Kyle, it's the ring that protects from telepathic attacks constantly....

it's been shown several times to withstand coinsidorable mental probing and even shielding Kyle from Martain Manhunter's telepathy

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Post by Slinger (6,932 posts) See mini bio

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Midnightist said:
"Rayner Doom may be a genius and have tech but he is limited in the assets he has. Rayner has the power to turn is imagination into a reality. Doom can be over powered by Sue Storm and her powers really are very similar to a GL but on a lower level. Even if Doom used what little magic he has I don't think the power he has could put down Rayner"
Limited in the assets he has? He's got a freakin' time machine! Doom's assets are limitless.

What little magic? He was in contention with Doctor Strange to become the Sorcerer Supreme.

I would say Doom has a good chance to win this due to his magic, but without any prep (and assuming an even playing field, i.e. Kyle not fighting him in Latveria) the Lantern would win it.


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Kimikirai said:
"Questions:
  1. How good is Kyle's resistance to mental attacks?
  2. What is the greatest force he has been showed to exert?
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Kyle was able to overcome possession by Parallax and a Lantern can exert anything they can will


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Midnightist said:
"Light said:
"doesnt doom have like an impregnable shield over himself... how would Kyle break through that?"
kyle could phase through "
I disagree. Nightcrawler couldn't even teleport past his shields. Pre-retcon Beyonder couldn't get past them before Doom stole his powers. No, I do not see Kyle piercing his shield or getting through it by any other methood.


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Vance Astro said:
"Doom's Magic is only next to Ghost Rider,Strange & Clea.Strange at one point took on Galactus..and he wasn't killed."
Ghost Rider has never used Magic other than the one time he opened a portal a hell to sell his soul


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Scarlet Thor said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Doom's Magic is only next to Ghost Rider,Strange & Clea.Strange at one point took on Galactus..and he wasn't killed."
I would add Scarlet Witch in her chaos magic days...
Yeah I vote doom"
Doom would own Wanda with magic.


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Slinger said:
"Midnightist said:
"Rayner Doom may be a genius and have tech but he is limited in the assets he has. Rayner has the power to turn is imagination into a reality. Doom can be over powered by Sue Storm and her powers really are very similar to a GL but on a lower level. Even if Doom used what little magic he has I don't think the power he has could put down Rayner"
Limited in the assets he has? He's got a freakin' time machine! Doom's assets are limitless.

What little magic? He was in contention with Doctor Strange to become the Sorcerer Supreme.

I would say Doom has a good chance to win this due to his magic, but without any prep (and assuming an even playing field, i.e. Kyle not fighting him in Latveria) the Lantern would win it."
I mean the ones in his suit he can get anything but he doesn't always carry stuff and I call it little because he doesn't always use it 


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I wonder if Doom could magically or through his tech, syphon the rings power.....


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erik said:
"I wonder if Doom could magically or through his tech, syphon the rings power....."
He siphoned the power cosmic with tech..I don't see why not.


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Kimikirai said:
"Midnightist said:
"Light said:
"doesnt doom have like an impregnable shield over himself... how would Kyle break through that?"
kyle could phase through "
I disagree. Nightcrawler couldn't even teleport past his shields. Pre-retcon Beyonder couldn't get past them before Doom stole his powers. No, I do not see Kyle piercing his shield or getting through it by any other methood."
the thing about a Lantern is its power is regulated by will. Will can go beyond many limits thats why I think Kyle could get through it