Ive been hearing how powerful vader is can he take Lord Frieza? "
Yeah, there have been people going around comparing Vader with omnipotent entities.
I'm here to tell you that they are wrong. Vader isn't even close to being among the most powerful Star Wars characters. In fact, none of the movie characters are among the strongest other than Luke and Palpatine.
@JediXMan: Darth vader will become more powerful then either one of us" palpatine to yoda....revenge of the sith........canon yo.... Freiza is powerful and hard to beat pretty unstopable..but size matters not to the force, he has no defense to the force, besides the Force will show Vader whats to come months earlyer even years giving prep time......a calculated blast from the death star under vaders command( vader vs Freiza) will finish Freiza, Vaders command of the imperial forces assaulting Freiza to preoccupy ...the emperor not in the battle but will be using battle meditation to enhance his apprentice,and his forces.....Freiza will probably wipe out the empire forces but not before that death star he knows nothing about will hit em....if he survives say crashes on a near planet Vader will just use force powers that Freiza cant block...the battle will be tough but the force will prevail
" " @JediXMan: That was before the incident on Mustafar. Because of that, he never reached his full potential. EVER. " Since when does the Perfection in the Force require Physicality? "
Don't ask me. Ask Lucas.
It doesn't really matter. Vader has shown nothing to prove the power that so many people are giving him lately.
I am not sure who would win, because I don't know Frieza very well, but potentially the Force can stop anything, its like Vader said, "Do not be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed, the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force." So if Vader could see an attack coming theoretically he can stop it and then stop Frieza, suspend him and then finish Frieza with his lightsaber. But like I said I do not know enough, this is a goofy battle if you ask me.
" " @JediXMan: That was before the incident on Mustafar. Because of that, he never reached his full potential. EVER. " Since when does the Perfection in the Force require Physicality? "
Don't ask me. Ask Lucas. It doesn't really matter. Vader has shown nothing to prove the power that so many people are giving him lately. THIS is why we use feats, people. "
Very True. We hear of his power but never see it, he is still my favorite Starwars Character though.
" " @JediXMan: That was before the incident on Mustafar. Because of that, he never reached his full potential. EVER. " Since when does the Perfection in the Force require Physicality? "
Don't ask me. Ask Lucas. It doesn't really matter. Vader has shown nothing to prove the power that so many people are giving him lately. THIS is why we use feats, people. "
Lucas sometimes is insane, also Vader becomes one with the force after you kill him, then he have no body, for the same, if you kill him, he will kick you ass as a force gosth
" I wonder how powerful DV can really be? but for now Frieza STOMPS "
No way to know, since you could do anything with the force, it could mean he could be in theory as powerfulkl as Q or The Pre Retcon Beyonder, just in theory. @Arvinak: Huh? i am not the first to say good old George is going loco!!!
" " @JediXMan: That was before the incident on Mustafar. Because of that, he never reached his full potential. EVER. " Since when does the Perfection in the Force require Physicality? "
Don't ask me. Ask Lucas. It doesn't really matter. Vader has shown nothing to prove the power that so many people are giving him lately. THIS is why we use feats, people. "
Lucas sometimes is insane, also Vader becomes one with the force after you kill him, then he have no body, for the same, if you kill him, he will kick you ass as a force gosth "
There's no proof that's possible. Once you're dead, you're dead. Exar Kun, Palpatine, and Nihilus are special cases. They didn't pass on. They remained in the mortal world.
That whole "I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" was all hype. It's also possible that he was being metaphorical. He probably gains a type of omniscience and understanding.
Really cant compare Japanese powerhouses with anything else...but...Frieza doesnt have any defence against mind attacks. So it depends on how quick DV mind and or connection to the force is.
@Sirealkillz:Maybe he doesn't have more power. But he can probably end up destroying it, i mean a few planes destroyed it. Frieza could probably do the same thing.
@JediXMan:said That was before the incident on Mustafar. Because of that, he never reached his full potential. EVER. return of the jedi he made balance to the force at the end and killed the most powerful sith ever, it wasnt luke...prophecy fullfilled according to palpatine... Vader could beat Freiza
Sry but you don't know what you are saying. Vader needs Luke to take care of Sidious. The is one rule in the sith. When the aprentice is strong enough to take down the Master he does that. Why do you think Vader never tryies ? Its obvious why ...
Vader only kills Palpatine because of PLOT. He grabs him from behind when he was focused on LUKE. Also there is a constant battle inside of Vader between Vader and Anaking and that is part of why he is never that strong in the dark side.
Luke: There is still good in you father, i can sense it.
Yes there still was Anaking inside. Also Vader is not the one becoming one with the force, that was Anakin.
i think they are more powerfull then Vader can imagine, its just for some reason they are not allowed to interfere. If they realy become one with the force then they are close to omnipotent because they are everywhere and can do anything.
" @JediXMan:said That was before the incident on Mustafar. Because of that, he never reached his full potential. EVER. return of the jedi he made balance to the force at the end and killed the most powerful sith ever, it wasnt luke...prophecy fullfilled according to palpatine... Vader could beat Freiza "
Show me some power feats.
Remember: Vader DIED because Palpatine's lightning damaged his armor. It was only because Vader hit Palpatine from behind. If Vader attacked head on, he'd have died - followed shortly by Luke.
I'm sorry but you're really, really wrong here. And you're making Star Wars fans look bad.
" @JediXMan: if if if , always if if if never acknowledge the fact vader killed the emperor... do u deny this??"
Vader killed the Emperor as much as if i had a gang of 100 people that would hold a person that can kill 10 persons with no problem for me to kill. Would i be the one killing that guy ? Yes! Could i kill that guy under normal circumstances ? No.
Ive been hearing how powerful vader is can he take Lord Frieza? "
Yeah, there have been people going around comparing Vader with omnipotent entities. I'm here to tell you that they are wrong. Vader isn't even close to being among the most powerful Star Wars characters. In fact, none of the movie characters are among the strongest other than Luke and Palpatine. "
" @JediXMan: if if if , always if if if never acknowledge the fact vader killed the emperor... do u deny this??"
Vader killed the Emperor as much as if i had a gang of 100 people that would hold a person that can kill 10 persons with no problem for me to kill. Would i be the one killing that guy ? Yes! Could i kill that guy under normal circumstances ? No. "
Frieza could speed blitz him Frieza could vaporize him Frieza could rip him apart with his physical strength. Frieza could even make him explode with his TK.
" @JediXMan: if if if , always if if if never acknowledge the fact vader killed the emperor... do u deny this??"
Vader killed the Emperor as much as if i had a gang of 100 people that would hold a person that can kill 10 persons with no problem for me to kill. Would i be the one killing that guy ? Yes! Could i kill that guy under normal circumstances ? No. "
wat? "
Sidious defeated vader in a very unfair way and dictated by plot. Vader would stand no chanse in a direct fight. I mande a comparison with me kill a guy that can kill 10 man if i had another 100 helping me killing him.
Vader can't take on Sidious in a fair fight in any way.
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