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#1  Edited By Simon Williams

Who wins and why?

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Does Champ have his gem?

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#3  Edited By Simon Williams

No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did.

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#4  Edited By Nibiru
Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."

Sentry is quite stupid, no matter what Marvel says. Sentry is consistantly written like a retarded monkey just like Superman. :D
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Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."
Maybe.  But since he doesn't Champ loses anyway.

BTW, why post a battle thread when you seem to already have it played out in your head that Sentry would take it?
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#6  Edited By Simon Williams
High Revolutionary said:
"Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."
Maybe.  But since he doesn't Champ loses anyway.BTW, why post a battle thread when you seem to already have it played out in your head that Sentry would take it?"
I like hearing others opinion. lol
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#7  Edited By the creator

I don't that it should be an easy win for Sentry when you take in to account how strong Champion is and his great fighting ability.
Yes Sentry could in theory attack with his energy emission powers from distance but Champion is very durable.

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#8  Edited By Push
Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."

Sentry, outsmart someone? Is there a new Sentry around :-)
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#9  Edited By Psi-Fire
Push said:
"Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."
Sentry, outsmart someone? Is there a new Sentry around :-)"

LMAO. That's what I was thinking when I read it.
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#10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Push said:
"Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."
Sentry, outsmart someone? Is there a new Sentry around :-)"
Sentry isn't dumb at all.
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#11  Edited By Psi-Fire

Your right, Vance, but to say he's gonna outsmart someone like Thanos is borderline stupidity.

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#12  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Psi-Fire said:
"Your right, Vance, but to say he's gonna outsmart someone like Thanos is borderline stupidity."
I think the line was "He would out smart him like Thanos did"...not "Sentry is smarter than Thanos".....
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Without the Power gem this is unfair...

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#14  Edited By Simon Williams
Vance Astro said:
"Psi-Fire said:
"Your right, Vance, but to say he's gonna outsmart someone like Thanos is borderline stupidity."
I think the line was "He would out smart him like Thanos did"...not "Sentry is smarter than Thanos".....
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Thank You at least someone can read.
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#15  Edited By Psi-Fire

I know what the line was, and he won't. The Champion isn't the brightest guy around, but Sentry doesn't go for the let me outsmart him move first.

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#16  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Psi-Fire said:
"I know what the line was, and he won't. The Champion isn't the brightest guy around, but Sentry doesn't go for the let me outsmart him move first. "
He said Sentry can not Sentry would...
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#17  Edited By Hadrelius

Champion does have the Power Primordial (which is the power of the Big Bang) and he is immortal.

I think he wins.

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#18  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Alpha said:
"Champion does have the Power Primordial (which is the power of the Big Bang) and he is immortal. I think he wins. "
None of that means anything.Champion got his ribs broken by the Thing...a weaker thing than the Thing who gave Sentry his best punch and it did nothing.
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#19  Edited By Simon Williams
Psi-Fire said:
"I know what the line was, and he won't. The Champion isn't the brightest guy around, but Sentry doesn't go for the let me outsmart him move first. "
Plus for such a great fighter, he mostly uses Boxing. Without the Gem, Tryco is not that much. Sentry can take him. Just as She hulk did.
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#20  Edited By Hadrelius
Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
"Champion does have the Power Primordial (which is the power of the Big Bang) and he is immortal. I think he wins. "
None of that means anything.Champion got his ribs broken by the Thing...a weaker thing than the Thing who gave Sentry his best punch and it did nothing.
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it means a lot. Don't remember him getting his rips broke, but that was a while ago. Iron Man used to knock out the Hulk back then.
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#21  Edited By SUNMAN
Push said:
"Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."
Sentry, outsmart someone? Is there a new Sentry around :-)"

Nibiru said:
"Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."
Sentry is quite stupid, no matter what Marvel says. Sentry is consistantly written like a retarded monkey just like Superman. :D"
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh Sentry bashing, poor Sentry
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#22  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Nibiru said:
"Simon Williams said:
"No, if He did. Sentry can outsmart him like Thanos did."
Sentry is quite stupid, no matter what Marvel says. Sentry is consistantly written like a retarded monkey just like Superman. :D"
You don't know sh#t about the Sentry.Sentry has never shown to be stupid.
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#23  Edited By Simon Williams
Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
"Champion does have the Power Primordial (which is the power of the Big Bang) and he is immortal. I think he wins. "
None of that means anything.Champion got his ribs broken by the Thing...a weaker thing than the Thing who gave Sentry his best punch and it did nothing.
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it means a lot. Don't remember him getting his rips broke, but that was a while ago. Iron Man used to knock out the Hulk back then. "
Iron Man only knocked Hulk unconscious after Hulk was dazed by a army attack and used all his suits power in one punch.

Sentry has never known to be Dumb, he is actually Smart. His HQ is not built off of money but different materials, and utilizing his power to make it more durable.
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#24  Edited By Hadrelius
Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
"Champion does have the Power Primordial (which is the power of the Big Bang) and he is immortal. I think he wins. "
None of that means anything.Champion got his ribs broken by the Thing...a weaker thing than the Thing who gave Sentry his best punch and it did nothing.
"
it means a lot. Don't remember him getting his rips broke, but that was a while ago. Iron Man used to knock out the Hulk back then. "
Iron Man only knocked Hulk unconscious after Hulk was dazed by a army attack and used all his suits power in one punch. Sentry has never known to be Dumb, he is actually Smart. His HQ is not built off of money but different materials, and utilizing his power to make it more durable."
Someone needs to tell Marvel then cause he is like a child.
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#25  Edited By Simon Williams
Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
"Champion does have the Power Primordial (which is the power of the Big Bang) and he is immortal. I think he wins. "
None of that means anything.Champion got his ribs broken by the Thing...a weaker thing than the Thing who gave Sentry his best punch and it did nothing.
"
it means a lot. Don't remember him getting his rips broke, but that was a while ago. Iron Man used to knock out the Hulk back then. "
Iron Man only knocked Hulk unconscious after Hulk was dazed by a army attack and used all his suits power in one punch. Sentry has never known to be Dumb, he is actually Smart. His HQ is not built off of money but different materials, and utilizing his power to make it more durable."
Someone needs to tell Marvel then cause he is like a child. "
How is Sentry like a child? He is something like Superman and Bruce Banner. Superman is self conscious about what he do, and Bruce Banner is afraid of the power that lurks in him.
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#26  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Alpha said:
Someone needs to tell Marvel then cause he is like a child. "
Why because he's afraid of the Void?
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#27  Edited By Hadrelius
Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
Someone needs to tell Marvel then cause he is like a child. "
Why because he's afraid of the Void?
"
Just the way he is presented. Not sure of himself and recently in the Dark Avengers he really is. He's like a kid with great power.
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#28  Edited By Simon Williams
Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
Someone needs to tell Marvel then cause he is like a child. "
Why because he's afraid of the Void?
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Just the way he is presented. Not sure of himself and recently in the Dark Avengers he really is. He's like a kid with great power. "
Because He wondered if He did good or bad when He killed Morgana? Read more Sentry or Avengers please.
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#29  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
Someone needs to tell Marvel then cause he is like a child. "
Why because he's afraid of the Void?
"
Just the way he is presented. Not sure of himself and recently in the Dark Avengers he really is. He's like a kid with great power. "
That's not "Marvel" doing that though.Bendis isn't a good writer.That's not how Sentry acts.
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#30  Edited By Hadrelius
Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
Someone needs to tell Marvel then cause he is like a child. "
Why because he's afraid of the Void?
"
Just the way he is presented. Not sure of himself and recently in the Dark Avengers he really is. He's like a kid with great power. "
That's not "Marvel" doing that though.Bendis isn't a good writer.That's not how Sentry acts.
"
Well it's the way since his appearance. So until it's changed it's the way it is.
And it is marvel's doing since they ok these stories.
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#31  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Alpha said:
Well it's the way since his appearance. So until it's changed it's the way it is. "
That isn't how he has acted since his appearence...or I wouldn't have even responded to what you said in the first place.
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#32  Edited By Simon Williams
Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
Well it's the way since his appearance. So until it's changed it's the way it is. "
That isn't how he has acted since his appearence...or I wouldn't have even responded to what you said in the first place.
"
Thank you. Sentry is an old hero, when He drink the serum it basically unlocked his Power.

Alpha,. read more Sentry.
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#33  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know.

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#34  Edited By Hadrelius
Simon Williams said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
Well it's the way since his appearance. So until it's changed it's the way it is. "
That isn't how he has acted since his appearence...or I wouldn't have even responded to what you said in the first place.
"
Thank you. Sentry is an old hero, when He drink the serum it basically unlocked his Power. Alpha,. read more Sentry."
Simon maybe you should read more. That was based after his appearance.
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#35  Edited By Hadrelius
Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
What we know is based on what is shown. When they put him back to what the later origin story shows, then opinions will chnage.
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#36  Edited By Simon Williams
Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
Thank You.
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#37  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
What we know is based on what is shown. When they put him back to what the later origin story shows, then opinions will chnage. "
No what people think they saw or think was shown.I don't know how many times i've caught people making up sh#t about Sentry and using it against him in battle forums.I don't care if people don't like him but when people make up stuff and then say they don't like him because of those so-called-facts..it pisses me off.
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#38  Edited By Hadrelius
Simon Williams said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
Thank You."
I like Sentry and can't wait for them to really define him and make him into the character he could be. You on the other hand, don't seem to know much about a character that you are defending.

Everyone knows the=at in his case as far as the origin, he is the chicken that came before the egg.

Stop assuming. It makes an ass out of you.
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#39  Edited By Hadrelius
Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
What we know is based on what is shown. When they put him back to what the later origin story shows, then opinions will chnage. "
No what people think they saw or think was shown.I don't know how many times i've caught people making up sh#t about Sentry and using it against him in battle forums.I don't care if people don't like him but when people make up stuff and then say they don't like him because of those so-called-facts..it pisses me off.
"
There is nothing about the Sentry that needs to be made up. Not sure what comics you and Simon have been reading. It is clear to his ability and level. Nothing I said was based on opinion but fact of the comics that show him. No sure why this is a debate. Take it up with Marvel if you don't like what is being shown by him, but is being shown.
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#40  Edited By Simon Williams
Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
Thank You."
I like Sentry and can't wait for them to really define him and make him into the character he could be. You on the other hand, don't seem to know much about a character that you are defending. Everyone knows the=at in his case as far as the origin, he is the chicken that came before the egg. Stop assuming. It makes an ass out of you. "
What did I assume, Moron? I read and know what I talk about.
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#41  Edited By Hadrelius
Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
Thank You."
I like Sentry and can't wait for them to really define him and make him into the character he could be. You on the other hand, don't seem to know much about a character that you are defending. Everyone knows the=at in his case as far as the origin, he is the chicken that came before the egg. Stop assuming. It makes an ass out of you. "
What did I assume, Moron? I read and know what I talk about."
You know nothing and that I'm sure of and a waste of time debating.



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#42  Edited By Dark King
Alpha said:
"You know nothing and that I'm sure of and a waste of time debating. "
hmm..
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#43  Edited By Simon Williams
Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
Thank You."
I like Sentry and can't wait for them to really define him and make him into the character he could be. You on the other hand, don't seem to know much about a character that you are defending. Everyone knows the=at in his case as far as the origin, he is the chicken that came before the egg. Stop assuming. It makes an ass out of you. "
What did I assume, Moron? I read and know what I talk about."
You know nothing and that I'm sure of and a waste of time debating. "
If You think so.
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#44  Edited By Hadrelius
Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
Thank You."
I like Sentry and can't wait for them to really define him and make him into the character he could be. You on the other hand, don't seem to know much about a character that you are defending. Everyone knows the=at in his case as far as the origin, he is the chicken that came before the egg. Stop assuming. It makes an ass out of you. "
What did I assume, Moron? I read and know what I talk about."
You know nothing and that I'm sure of and a waste of time debating. "
If You think so."
What he was has no bearing on what he is now until they take him back to his past glory. The fact that you tried to use what he was as an argument shows lack of substance on your part.
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#45  Edited By Dark King

its like using World breaker hulk feats to describe base hulk battles..

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#46  Edited By Simon Williams
Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Alpha said:
"Simon Williams said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
Thank You."
I like Sentry and can't wait for them to really define him and make him into the character he could be. You on the other hand, don't seem to know much about a character that you are defending. Everyone knows the=at in his case as far as the origin, he is the chicken that came before the egg. Stop assuming. It makes an ass out of you. "
What did I assume, Moron? I read and know what I talk about."
You know nothing and that I'm sure of and a waste of time debating. "
If You think so."
What he was has no bearing on what he is now until they take him back to his past glory. The fact that you tried to use what he was as an argument shows lack of substance on your part. "
How it lacks substance? is that what you tell everyone because You just told that to SUNMAN. You talked about how he acted since his appearance, but when He first appeared to now is different. You lack the knowledge of Sentry comics to know that.
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#47  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Alpha said:
"Vance Astro said:
"All this Sentry hate seems to be stemmed from what people think they know about Sentry and not what they actually know."
What we know is based on what is shown. When they put him back to what the later origin story shows, then opinions will chnage. "
No what people think they saw or think was shown.I don't know how many times i've caught people making up sh#t about Sentry and using it against him in battle forums.I don't care if people don't like him but when people make up stuff and then say they don't like him because of those so-called-facts..it pisses me off.
"
There is nothing about the Sentry that needs to be made up. Not sure what comics you and Simon have been reading. It is clear to his ability and level. Nothing I said was based on opinion but fact of the comics that show him. No sure why this is a debate. Take it up with Marvel if you don't like what is being shown by him, but is being shown."
What you are saying has nothing to do with what I am saying.My statement was unrealated to begin with.I can't speak for Simon i'm speaking for myself.I read the same Sentry comics everyone else did.When I said I caught people making up stuff about Sentry I caught people just last night pulling things out of their ass.Saying things about him that aren't true.This is a debate because you made it one..I wasn't talking to you or about you.
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Nothing in Age of Sentry ever actually happened anyways...

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#49  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Nothing in Age of Sentry ever actually happened anyways..."
Why does that matter?
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#50  Edited By Dark King
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Nothing in Age of Sentry ever actually happened anyways..."
so is it the equivalent of ppl using non canon and what if? feats to patten their stats for fights?