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#1  Edited By renamed040924

-Standard gear

-No prep

-No knowledge

-Fight takes place in the top office of the Daily Bugle

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#2  Edited By renamed040924

Told ya :P

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#3  Edited By Pokergeist

@nickzambuto: Is this over the Cassandra Cain being so awsome but she really isnt deal?

Taskmaster win ofcourse.

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#4  Edited By renamed040924

@CadenceV2 said:

@nickzambuto: Is this over the Cassandra Cain being so awsome but she really isnt deal?

Taskmaster win ofcourse.

Me and HigorM were debating this in that tourney. I admitted this would be a particularly good fight and said I was going to make a thread for it.

Here it is.

I really do like this fight doe

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#5  Edited By XiiX

With weapons, probably Taskmaster. But I'm really not sure........

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#6  Edited By Strider1992

Standard gear I would lean towards Taskmaster. Unarmed Cass would probably win. UDON Task is could probably beat her unarmed though.

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#7  Edited By renamed040924

@Strider92 said:

Standard gear I would lean towards Taskmaster. Unarmed Cass would probably win. UDON Task is could probably beat her unarmed though.

UDON?

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#8  Edited By TheAntiReVamp

With gear Taskmaster takes this.

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#9  Edited By Strider1992

@nickzambuto: This version:

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#10  Edited By rico_3088

UDON was tough, @ nickzambuto you should pick it up if you can, great read.

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#11  Edited By Duke_Nasty

Tasky

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#12  Edited By HigorM  Moderator

@nickzambuto: nice :)

personally i think she wins via body reading.. she is faster then him, she will know what his is going to do before he even do it.. that´s the way she fights..

by the picture i don´t think this is udon taskmaster.. and he can keep his double speed for ever, if he uses that will make him get tired earlier, if not, he won´t be able to follow her moves..

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#13  Edited By saturnssailor

Cass beat Lady Shiva and Batman so I'd have to go with her. I don't know too much about Taskmaster though, so I could be wrong.

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#14  Edited By renamed040924

@saturnssailor said:

Cass beat Lady Shiva and Batman so I'd have to go with her. I don't know too much about Taskmaster though, so I could be wrong.

He can literally copy any fighting style just by watching it. When he was just starting his career, he taught himself martial arts by watching old Bruce Lee movies. He's gone toe to toe with Deadpool, Captain America, Spider-Man, and more. He has the potential to be more skilled (he'll just copy Cass's moves during the fight) as well as being physically superior and having better gear.

Cass on the other hand is probably a bit faster, and has that handy muscle reading.

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#15  Edited By jashro44

@nickzambuto said:

@saturnssailor said:

Cass beat Lady Shiva and Batman so I'd have to go with her. I don't know too much about Taskmaster though, so I could be wrong.

He can literally copy any fighting style just by watching it. When he was just starting his career, he taught himself martial arts by watching old Bruce Lee movies. He's gone toe to toe with Deadpool, Captain America, Spider-Man, and more. He has the potential to be more skilled (he'll just copy Cass's moves during the fight) as well as being physically superior and having better gear.

Cass on the other hand is probably a bit faster, and has that handy muscle reading.

Cass also has shown the ability to copy peoples styles just like taskmaster she did it to shadow thief. I don't recall taskmaster doing that good with deadpool. All though cass's body reading isn't that big of an advantage either because taskmaster has also shown to be able to do that.

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@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@saturnssailor said:

Cass beat Lady Shiva and Batman so I'd have to go with her. I don't know too much about Taskmaster though, so I could be wrong.

He can literally copy any fighting style just by watching it. When he was just starting his career, he taught himself martial arts by watching old Bruce Lee movies. He's gone toe to toe with Deadpool, Captain America, Spider-Man, and more. He has the potential to be more skilled (he'll just copy Cass's moves during the fight) as well as being physically superior and having better gear.

Cass on the other hand is probably a bit faster, and has that handy muscle reading.

Cass also has shown the ability to copy peoples styles just like taskmaster she did it to shadow thief. I don't recall taskmaster doing that good with deadpool. All though cass's body reading isn't that big of an advantage either because taskmaster has also shown to be able to do that.

And Bronze Tiger, when she was just a child. Taskmaster has a generally horrible record against Deadpool. It's more poor writing than anything else.

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#17  Edited By renamed040924

@CitizenBane said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@saturnssailor said:

Cass beat Lady Shiva and Batman so I'd have to go with her. I don't know too much about Taskmaster though, so I could be wrong.

He can literally copy any fighting style just by watching it. When he was just starting his career, he taught himself martial arts by watching old Bruce Lee movies. He's gone toe to toe with Deadpool, Captain America, Spider-Man, and more. He has the potential to be more skilled (he'll just copy Cass's moves during the fight) as well as being physically superior and having better gear.

Cass on the other hand is probably a bit faster, and has that handy muscle reading.

Cass also has shown the ability to copy peoples styles just like taskmaster she did it to shadow thief. I don't recall taskmaster doing that good with deadpool. All though cass's body reading isn't that big of an advantage either because taskmaster has also shown to be able to do that.

And Bronze Tiger, when she was just a child. Taskmaster has a generally horrible record against Deadpool. It's more poor writing than anything else.

I don't think losing to someone who's FTL is a bad showing... eh Bane?

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#18  Edited By jashro44

@CitizenBane: Has she ever showed bronze tigers moves on panel? I'm not doubting she knows them just curious. I agree about the deadpool vs taskmaster I was mostly just pointing out that taskmaster doesn't have a good showing against deadpool.

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#19  Edited By Saren

@jashro44: There was a flashback to her training near the end of her book where she was training as a child with Bronze Tiger. He knocked her down with a slash, she got up and mimicked the slash.

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#20  Edited By TDK_1997

I think that Cass has a better chance of winning.

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#21  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Going with Cain here.

So very hard to fight past TM's jobber aura ... too hard to see him winning against a consistent A gamer like Cain.

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#22  Edited By Shisho_The_Fist

With standard gear and taskmaster with his jobber aura on should be able to take down cass. The barrage of weapons should generally keep her off paced long enough for task to put her down long enough to claim a victory. H2H only would also be good but Cass would take that in a long fight.

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#23  Edited By saiyan_earthling

CC

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#24  Edited By karetaker

TM depending on his gear

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#25  Edited By robertloucksjr

Taskmaster. Twice as strong, just as fast, short-term double fast, and weapons.

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#26  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

@robertloucksjr said:

Taskmaster. Twice as strong, just as fast, short-term double fast, and weapons.

What has Tasky done to place him as stronger ... and faster??

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@CitizenBane said:

@jashro44: There was a flashback to her training near the end of her book where she was training as a child with Bronze Tiger. He knocked her down with a slash, she got up and mimicked the slash.

that scan is awesome... Cass looks like Noodle from Gorillaz

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#29  Edited By ChaosBlazer

@Super_SoldierXII said:

@robertloucksjr said:

Taskmaster. Twice as strong, just as fast, short-term double fast, and weapons.

What has Tasky done to place him as stronger ... and faster??

i agree with super_soldier, Tasky is definietly not twice as strong, and I'd wager Cass is faster

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nice photoshop lol

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#30  Edited By Needlebay

Cassandra Cain. She's also described as being peak human or beyond.

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#31  Edited By SupremeHyperion

Taskmaster destroys her.... come on

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#32  Edited By Needlebay

lol, no he doesn't.

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#33  Edited By Stronger

I'd really like Taskmaster to win this.

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#34  Edited By OmgOmgWtfWtf

Cassandra Cain has faster reflexes, but with standard equipment for Taskmaster, he might actually be able to win.

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#35  Edited By XiiX

Cain.

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#36  Edited By GodDamnIronMan

Taskmaster with standard gears should wins this... but Cain is faster though.

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#37  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Super_SoldierXII said:

@robertloucksjr said:

Taskmaster. Twice as strong, just as fast, short-term double fast, and weapons.

What has Tasky done to place him as stronger ... and faster??

He probably came to that conclusion keeping in mind Tasky's double time ability,but even on double time Cass is still physically superior,he cant keep it up for long,and the canonocity is disputed.

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#38  Edited By Bane_of_sith

CC should win,,I doubt task will last long enough to mimic her style,,,her ability to read her opponents is too good,,she might make quick work of him

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#39  Edited By Strider1992

@entropy_aegis said:

,and the canonocity is disputed.

That issue has been resolved now. It was debated as being non-canon due to a difference in Taskmasters origin that was retconned in the Van Lente mini-series. However the repercussions of things that Taskmaster did in his first mini-series and Agent X (where he also wore the UDON suit) were still seen in Cable/Deadpool and Dark Reign. So the suit and his abilities are still canon the only thing that isn't is the origin that was replaced by Van Lente's one. It also hasn't been explained why Taskmaster doesn't use double time when out of his UDON suit because he should still be able too.

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#40  Edited By BringnIt

Taskmaster is too over the place for me to say he takes this. He has low showings against Deadpool and then his impressive showings against Spider-Man back in the day and more recently dominating Venom. Written properly... I think he should probably win.

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#41  Edited By NeonGameWave

Taskmaster.

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#42  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Cass Cain.

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UDON gear, Tony.

Without UDON, Cass UNLESS Taskie is completely serious, 100 % of the time and will not job.

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@ghostravage: I'm curious to see your opinion on this fight.

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I'm tempted to just say that Cassie wins in like five seconds. A couple of quick perfectly placed nerve strikes before he really knows what's going on, and he's down for the count. Good thing for him she's not a killer.

She fights and reads people like an expert linguist speaks and reads languages.

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Tony is good but he can't win this...because what makes Taskmaster such a dangerous opponent is the fact that he can copy his opponents moves and add them to his arsenal, but Cass also can and has done the same thing:

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On top of that, Cass can also read body-language fluently, like a regular person speaks english, to the point that she can effortlessy predict her opponents next moves before they even make them...basically, Taskmaster has no advantages over her, she's also faster than him by feats, a problem that Taskmaster could solve with his double-speed technique but he can't keep that form for long and he won't be able to oneshot her with it because Cass has dozens of meta-human-speed-feats in close-quarters, and being stronger than your opponent means nothing if you can't land a hit.

I'm not saying that Taskmaster gets stomped, but i just don't see him winning.

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Task master. Spiderman level experience means she can't beat him in a strength, speed and improvisation factor. And he's copied the best h2h fighter in marvel so he's beyond her in fighting capacity.

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#50  Edited By Stormdriven

Tony in a good fight, as long as he’s not jobbing