Zuko vs Bolin

@linark:

Iirc it always took several earth benders to open and close the gates

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Zuko, near-high difficulty. I just feel like Bolin's going to hold back too much in R1.

Bolin. Over-all much more powerful by the end of the series, and at least just as agile, Bolin take's a very solid majority and take's it every single time.

I think overall zuko is a better bender and fighter. He has agility, speed, power, and experience over Bolin. The only challenge will be Bolin's lava and that's not as hard to overcome as people make it seem. Lavabending isn't a unstoppable force, it can be blocked by all the other elements. Bolin was even able to block ghazan(someone who is stronger than him) lavabending with Earthbending(earth is weak against lava). Lavabending isn't going to give Bolin a win, especially against someone like zuko who is better than him in all the other categories that matter in a fight. Lavabending can be blocked by fire, the same way waterbending is blocked by fire. Bolin lavabending is kinda slow, I don't see him being able to cover the ground in lava before zuko has time to take advantage. Zuko also has the agility to avoid his lava while attacking. He was able to jump multiple yards to a airship Azula was on and started attacking her midair. He was also able to climb a 2 or more story house with ease AND in seconds. I think zuko will take both rounds, r2 will be harder but he still can take it.

Fire can evaporate water, it can't do that to lava

Zuko round 1, moderate difficulty.

Round 2 Bolin melts him.

@arcus: fire has a concussive force. That's why earth blows up when in comes into contact with it. That is also the reason people get knocked down when the get hit by a fire attack. Fire on fire should just come together and make more fire but in avatar the fire destroys each other, because of the concussive force. When korra was fighting kuvira she was able to stop kuvira liquid metal with a fire blast. There's nothing to suggest that fire can't block lava the Same way it has been shown to block all the other elements. Lavabending has been blocked before and it can be blocked again. Plus zuko has the agility to avoid it. He has been shown to jump yard and climb houses in seconds. Zuko can use his fire Bending to enhance his leaping ability, he did that in his fight with Azula.

When did Korra do that?

I'm not denying that fire can be used to block lava, just said it wouldn't be as easy as it cancels out water

@arcus: korra was able to do it when they was fighting in kuvira's robot.

I used water because lava and water are both liquids. Fire has also blocked liquid metal. I'm not saying it will be the exact same as when fire blocks water, but when has fire had trouble blocking a element? I know fire isn't the most defensive element but it never had problems blocking an attack. I can't think of a element that has trouble blocking another element, except for earth blocking lava.

Can you point out where it happens? Cause I'm not seeing it

Lava and water are very different. Fire can evaporate water, can't do that to lava.

Firebending generally doesn't have much in the way of defensive moves. It's got some, sure, but it's the least defensive element

@arcus: 0:50 to 0:55 the fire stops the liquid metal.

...no, all that shows is Kuvira using metal shields to block Korra's fire blasts

I'm not saying firebending is the most defensive, I actually said it wasn't great but it has been able to stop attacks from all four elements with some form of fire blast. My point is lavabending isn't unstoppable. The only difference between lava and all the other liquid elements( all has been blocked by fire) is lava is extremely hot.

@arcus: Your right, kuvira was blocking, my mistake.

The point still stands that fire concussive force has stop earth. I would think earth would be harder to stop a solid than a liquid. Fire was also able to move army tanks. THAT WAS A SOZIN COMMIT FEAT SO THE POWER DOESN'T COUNT but if it did show that fire has concussive force that can move metal.

Zuko. Though much closer than what other folks are saying.

Both rounds? Any reasons?

Zuko I see as more combatively viable than Bolin.

Zuko.

Zuko takes both rounds with ease, and heck, is lava overrated...

Zuko takes round 1, but Bolin might takes Round 2.

This. Mako and Bolin are very underrated benders.

Zuko has round 1 comfortably and can take round 2 extreme dif with his swords. Without that gear advantage, Bolin can take him here.

Zuko can use fire jets in the comics so that would help out with doding lava, and even Mako's fire was able to deflect Ghazan's lava so I guess Zuko could do that too with his fire as he is a better firebender than Mako

so Zuzu wins

Zuko is a more skillful and precise bender than Bolin, but I always thought earthbending's focus on defense is a pretty solid counter to the aggression in firebending.

Eh, I'll still back Zuko. He has a general mobility edge that should let him circumvent Bolin's earthbending defenses. Although it should be noted that Bolin's actually pretty light on his feet despite his stocky build, as the pro-bending style is completely different to traditional bending. It taught him to be fairly fluid and responsive in his earthbending.

Zuko both rounds, Bolin is far too slow for him.

Close fight, Bolin probably wins round 2, but round 1 might be a draw.

Zuko's not beating Bolin easily.

I'd back Zuko round 1 because Bolin's use of lava is seriously restricted by morals. Zuko can blast through Bolin's defenses with some effort IMO, and he has a solid physicals advantage as well.

Round 2 is tougher. Zuko's swords allow him to concentrate his firebending more easily, but Bolin going all out with lavabending will be devastating, giving him a solid advantage in AOE offense to go with his defensive advantage from earthbending. That being said, lavabending is relatively slow, but it's not like Bolin can't generate large quantities quickly, and as the fight goes on, the battlefield will become more and more covered with lava. I might back Bolin with extreme difficulty, but it'll be a very close fight.

No matter what happens however, this forest is going to be burnt down by the end of the fight.

Zuko would win this pretty easily. If the fight gets dragged out, Bolin would have he advantage, but it won't. He doesn't have the defences to deal with the firepower, nor the attack speed to press Zuko with his lavabending, which is the slowest form of bending we've ever encountered.

Zuko with low-mid difficulty at worst in both of the rounds.

Bolin with difficulty.

bolin imo opinion.

Bolin stomp, i actually think lok characters are stronger than atla's.

@alsimmons77: what a troll lol

Bolin middif

Zuko, mid to high diff.

He can overpower Bolin and can dodge for sure. Also has pretty solid fire defenses.

Lava is strong, but overrated.

Zuko.

Zuko, maybe 7/10, with Bolin only really taking rounds off the rare few times he can hold up to the late-fight.

Zuko almost stomps

Zuko would absolutely decimate him.

This is really tough, but I think Bolin could take this if he doesn't hold back, but Zuko prolly takes 1 since Bolin holds back. Round 2 Bolin melts Zuko.

Zuko kicks his ass

Zuko beats both brothers at once.

I know people prefer Avatar the Last Airbender (so do I), but I didn't know it was this bad.

Zuko without much difficulty. Hell a blast like this might oneshot

@discmaniac-: it’s not ATLA preference.

@supremegeneration: Ok. Are you serious when you say Zuko eliminates both or are you indicating you think he is for sure superior to either of the two?