Zoom vs The Runner, Silver Surfer, and Wally West

This is not a race, this is a battle for KO

Zoom

@awesomedude: reasons? Are there any ways that this could be more fair of a fight? Thanks.

Zoom

I'll add Wally so it's more fair

@captainbatman: You wanna make it fair, then don't make this thread, or replace Zoom with Wally (Much closer but he still wins).

@masterkungfu: what if we add wally to the equation?

@awesomedude: I figured this would be fair, I didnt realize it would be so overkill

team, does SS have influence over time as well as superluminal speeds himself? the runner is an elder of the universe, he is not gonna be beaten by a someone like zoom

@hyperlight: yes, SS can have influence over time.

@captainbatman: I would argue that Surfer or Runner could solo

@hyperlight: lol it's seems pretty rare to see someone who thinks that Zoom may lose a battle

@hyperlight: Zoom sees Flashes in slo-mo. SSs time manipulation doesn't work 24/7, Runner is basically featless

Let the games begin

@awesomedude: it doesn't but zoom will have a hard time hurting SS or Runner, were they are more likely to hurt him eventually

@hyperlight: They'll never tag Zoom, and Zoom's casual punches are a lot harder than Superman's punches.

Zoom still....

@awesomedude: how so? I have never heard of a speedster (well relative lol) hiting that hard casually

Zoom isn't inhibited by his need to "improve heroes by presenting them with worthy challenges that push them to their limit, meant to improve or as he puts it "make them better" in forum battles.

Therefor it's either Zoom or a stalemate(assuming he wouldn't be able to take out The Runner, but Runner has nothing to suggest he's anywhere near Zoom's league speed-wise and pinpoint an attack. Zoom could theoretically dance around him like he did around SIlver Surfer).

@hyperlight: On my IPad so I can't post scans.

@xiix: Runner was running so fast he thought he was teleporting. Granted many say it was from the Space Gem but Thanos said Runner wasn't using it. Runner also ran circles around Surfer and Thanos. He can also make Zoom like him with his emotion control ability

@awesomedude: okay post some when you get a chance

Depends on morals and the space gem.

Morals off with Space gem, Runners team wins.

Morals off without Space gem, Zoom slaughters them.

Morals on with space gem, Runners team wins.

Morals on without gem, team 6-10 times. Due to Wally's vibrations/time traveling

Morals on

Zoom takes down Runner and Wally fast, but couldn't hurt SS, yet SS couldn't catch Zoom. So this would probably be a stalemate.

What's he going to do to the Runner? We're talking about a guy who is pretty much immune to physical harm, is a 10 ton character at his base (as opposed to athletic human), completely immortal, and has spent his life traveling FTL. Considering he has 5+ billion years of experience under his belt, I'd say he's likely to pull a win here.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Zoom can't survive in space as destroys planet the end

Runner solos

Runner has never been KO'd to my knowledge, so stalemate

What kind of logic is that?

@sheenlantern: that's a comment I didn't put a whole lot of effort or thought into

This and

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I assume you are referring to Zolomon? Because Thawne is no match for any of the listed opponents.

Zolomon takes Wally out.

However, While Zolomon is probably faster than the Surfer, what is he going to do to the Surfer? Not much really.

While it's contestable as to who is faster between the Runner and Zolomon, again, what does Zolomon do to the Runner is immortal and has a degree of invulnerability?

The team takes this no sweat.

@captnmcdeadpool: Yeah I was referring to Zolomon, I still don't understand Geoff John's reasoning in making another character with the same costume and nearly identical name lol (still love zolomon though)

Zoom owns

Yeah, seems like he could've thought that one through a bit more.

Zoom.

Zoom es op

Speed steal for Zo-

O wait

Anyone who thinks Zoom can beat Surfer or Runner please explain exactly how

@thanosii: How? By speedblitzing them and punching them a million times a second, while bloodlusted, that's how, or by BFRing them to an unknown place or something, or maybe Oneshot them with super strong punches.

Because it was his legacy. The Reverse Flash legacy.

There's like, what, four different Reverse Flashes? Not counting Jesse Quick's antithesis that appeared for like, a panel?

Oh, the only non skyfathers that can beat Zoom is either The Shrike or Human Race Wally West.

Team, SS being the factor. You forget he can read minds. Thinks and movess faster than the speed of light, can quantum time warp instantaneously, simply matter manipulate zoom etc.

@warlock360: Can he react in Planck Time speeds?

Runner or SS solo

Team but it seems durability is ignored as usual in this kind of battle aka speed is everything and durability gets automatically ignored.lol.

@ghostrider2: The durability is what separates the runner from most speedsters, not only pure speed

this , but i don't wanna say zoom beats all three..

@ghostrider2: zoom hits harder than superman, so durability isn't an issue.

@highaccuser: Zoom will probably land 300 punches a second (considering SS and Runner do have super speed as well, (and with Runner's and SS's durability) they will be able to tank a good amount of punches until someone is able to land one hit on him. Maybe Wally can hit him from behind while Zoom deals with the marvel duo.