#1 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom
Superman Prime
The Runner
Flash
#2 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom wins. No one here can touch him... Zoom can move outside of the concept of Time meaning he would not be able to be touched by anyone here...
#3 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman prime wins.

#4 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Zoom wins. No one here can touch him... Zoom can move outside of the concept of Time meaning he would not be able to be touched by anyone here...
"
What about the runner?
#5 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"Zoom wins. No one here can touch him... Zoom can move outside of the concept of Time meaning he would not be able to be touched by anyone here...
"
What about the runner?"
The Runner is Speed Based... the Runner exists within the concept of Time itself... he could beat The Flash here... but not Superman Prime or Zoom
#6 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?

#7 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Zoom
  2. Prime
  3. Flash
  4. Runner
#8 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

The runner wins hes an elder of the universe and much faster than the others. Zooms powers probably wouldn't work on the runner and the runner is so fast hes by far the fastest one here. Prime doesn't belong in this group.

#9 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ?
#10 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"Zoom wins. No one here can touch him... Zoom can move outside of the concept of Time meaning he would not be able to be touched by anyone here...
"
What about the runner?"
The Runner is Speed Based... the Runner exists within the concept of Time itself... he could beat The Flash here... but not Superman Prime or Zoom"
Well he made silver surfer look like a complete fool. Also when he fought the silver surfer he looked much faster than him.







#11 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"The runner wins hes an elder of the universe and much faster than the others. Zooms powers probably wouldn't work on the runner and the runner is so fast hes by far the fastest one here. Prime doesn't belong in this group."
Why did they downgrade this post there was nothing wrong with it.
#12 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe Runner can handle Superman Prime... but not Zoom
#13 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.
#14 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are they downgrading post im doing nothing wrong.

#15 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
energy charged superman prime
#16 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."
Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways...
#17 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."
Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways..."
But do know what the runner can do or has done.
#18 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."
Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways..."
But do know what the runner can do or has done."
Yes I Do... but its impossible to hit what you cant see or touch... and The Runner wouldnt be able to do either against Zoom... maybe the others but not this Yellow Flash Demon...
#19 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio
RUNNER CAN MOVE SO FAST HE COULD ACTUALLY BEAT ZOOM BEFORE HE EVEN THINKS ABOUT RUNNING, HES THIS QUICK.
#20 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."
Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways..."
He will get a chance to because his durability is just insane. he could easily take a few hundred infinite mass punches and just go on like nothing has happened. Superman and wonder woman have survived zoom's IMPs, it's reasonble to think prime could take much more.

As for guradian prime, his power are not physical, but metaphysical. He could for example fly so fast he would go thorugh time or universes or dimensions. or could use his heat vision to cut a hole in reality for zoom to fall into and be erased form time. so yes he is very powerful.
#21 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."
Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways..."
But do know what the runner can do or has done."
Yes I Do... but its impossible to hit what you cant see or touch... and The Runner wouldnt be able to do either against Zoom... maybe the others but not this Yellow Flash Demon..."
He has punked thanos I dont think zoom could do that.



#22 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
Why are people downgrading SeSaws posts...
#23 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."
Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways..."
He will get a chance to because his durability is just insane. he could easily take a few hundred infinite mass punches and just go on like nothing has happened. Superman and wonder woman have survived zoom's IMPs, it's reasonble to think prime could take much more.

As for guradian prime, his power are not physical, but metaphysical. He could for example fly so fast he would go thorugh time or universes or dimensions. or could use his heat vision to cut a hole in reality for zoom to fall into and be erased form time. so yes he is very powerful."
Well I was told Zoom didnt have an IMP attack... I actually thought he did too... but your logic sounds pretty good here... Prime could take a lot of Zoom's punches... but it would be hard for Prime to attack back when something is moving and attacking him that fast... I think his best hope would be Zoom would get tired of hitting him leaving him open for an attack then...
#24 Edited by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"Why are people downgrading SeSaws posts..."

Because there is a PM going around telling people to do it and they are haters thats why I don't care they can waist there time Im still gonna post.

RUNNER FTW  hes an elder of the universe none of the others have a chance
#25 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"never give up said:
"Why are people downgrading SeSaws posts..."

Because there is a PM going around telling people to do it and they are haters thats why I don't care they can waist there time Im still gonna post.

RUNNER FTW "
That is so immature...
#26 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

never give up said:

"SeSAW said:
"never give up said:
"Why are people downgrading SeSaws posts..."

Because there is a PM going around telling people to do it and they are haters thats why I don't care they can waist there time Im still gonna post.

RUNNER FTW "
That is so immature..."

Really it is and its an idiotic waist of time. Its like I can't come up with a decent argument so instead of trying ill just delete his post. Childish.
I belive it was ZOOM who came up with this idea. And knowing him I understand why.

#27 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"
How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."
Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways..."
But do know what the runner can do or has done."
Yes I Do... but its impossible to hit what you cant see or touch... and The Runner wouldnt be able to do either against Zoom... maybe the others but not this Yellow Flash Demon..."
He has punked thanos I dont think zoom could do that.



"
Well it depends... if Thanos is on solid ground and this is a random encounter... Zoom could punk Thanos... because Thanos would never be able to touch him... and since it also has be stated that Zoom attacks with Superman level strength... I cant imagine Thanos being able to survive being hit 1000's of times with Superman level punches and surviving...
#28 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom couldn't do anything to Thanos. Runner is an elder an has near skyfather level power, he punked the Surfer right before he punked Thanos. 

#29 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
Well silver surfer is fast and you can see the runner is way faster than him.

But what is silver surfer top speed again.

Im pretty sure that silver surfer has some insane speed feats...
#30 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Zoom couldn't do anything to Thanos. Runner is an elder an has near skyfather level power, he punked the Surfer right before he punked Thanos. "
Really ? In a Random Encounter Zoom couldnt hurt Thanos ? Thanos himself needs reaction time to do something to someone... so how does Thanos stop someone who doesnt go by the Concept and Laws of Time itself ? Thanos wouldnt be able to even think to attack Zoom before he would be already on him pounding him... I mean it wont be live Zoom hits Thanos one time and Thanos can react to retailiate... Zoom will be hitting Thanos 1000's of times... there wont be any time for Thanos to react at all... now if Thanos know Zoom is coming maybe he could do something then...
#31 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread.

#32 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."
Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself...
#33 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"SeSAW said:
"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."
Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
Cant silver surfer do that too...
#34 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

The runner wins

#35 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"SeSAW said:
"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."
Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
Cant silver surfer do that too..."
I never seen the Surfer do it so... I cant say he can
#36 Posted by Mind_Games (888 posts) - - Show Bio

The topic doesn't include surfer

#37 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins in a race
Prime wins in an overall fight

#38 Posted by never give up (9635 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"never give up said:
"King Saturn said:
"SeSAW said:
"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."
Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
Cant silver surfer do that too..."
I never seen the Surfer do it so... I cant say he can"
Okay then.
#39 Edited by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
HalJordan1986x said:
"Zoom wins in a race
Prime wins in an overall fight"

Not even.  Superboy Prime was deathly afraid of Bart Allen.  So much so that when given the choice of fighting Bart or fighting the entire GL Corp and the Guardians of the Universe, he choose the later.  Flash Phobia indeed.

Now Bart Allen, as powerful of a character as he was during IC (not as powerful as Zoom), is a pretty nice guy.  He was pissed off and all but he's nowhere near as scary as a guy who will beat down your mentor, your sidekick, hospitalize your wife, kill your unborn children and then force you to go back in time and watch him doing it over and over and over again.

Zoom would make Superboy Prime pee his pants.  And then he'd kill him.
#40 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
"HalJordan1986x said:
"Zoom wins in a race
Prime wins in an overall fight"

Not even.  Superboy Prime was deathly afraid of Bart Allen.  So much so that when given the choice of fighting Bart or fighting the entire GL Corp and the Guardians of the Universe, he choose the later.  Flash Phobia indeed.

Now Bart Allen, as powerful of a character as he was during IC (not as powerful as Zoom), is a pretty nice guy.  He was pissed off and all but he's nowhere near as scary as a guy who will beat down your mentor, your sidekick, hospitalize your wife, kill your unborn children and then force you to go back in time and watch him doing it over and over and over again.

Zoom would make Superboy Prime pee his pants.  And then he'd kill him."
lmfao
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#41 Edited by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"SeSAW said:
"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."
Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
Zoom affects time right well anyone who can time travel does the same thing. Flash has to use the speed force to TT. Surfer doesn't he can travel time and also has been shown to affect time.  Surfer has allready beaten people who can manipulate time to a greater degree 
#42 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"King Saturn said:
"SeSAW said:
"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."
Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
Zoom affects time right well anyone who can time travel does the same thing. Flash has to use the speed force to TT. Surfer doesn't he can travel time and also has been shown to affect time.  Surfer has allready beaten people who can manipulate time to a greater degree "
Zoom doesnt manipulate Time like other Time Travelers though... he uses it primarly as a factor of speed... where as the Surfer relies mainly on his amazing Superluminal Speed to travel...
#43 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

I wonder if it would work outside of the Earths atmosphere?

#44 Posted by King Saturn (224455 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"I wonder if it would work outside of the Earths atmosphere?"
I dont know... and I aint gonna try and make up stuff and say it will or wont...
#45 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"I wonder if it would work outside of the Earths atmosphere?"


I don't see why not.

Except for the whole not being able to breathe thing.

#46 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
"SeSAW said:
"I wonder if it would work outside of the Earths atmosphere?"


I don't see why not.

Except for the whole not being able to breathe thing.

"
Yes, i see how breathing could be a problem here.
#47 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio

Runner dies first
Flash dies second
SP dies third
Zoom is victorious.

#48 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman prime ftw. It took three speed force users to take him out temporarily at his weakest power levels yet he still came back. It's true that speedsters fair well against him but this is the guy who was taking on DC earth by himself before he even absorbed the guardians energy. With this energy, he curb stomps everyone.

#49 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

The Runner wins- why he is the fastest, and he has the durability to take on Prime.

#50 Posted by Rei-Kai (2673 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer is FTL and can accelerate his speed to incalculable levels using his Cosmic Energy. Surfer is faster than Flash and Zoom, and Surfer still loses to the Runner. Runner regularly jogs across the universe for fun.