Zoom vs Superman Prime vs The Runner vs Flash
"Zoom wins. No one here can touch him... Zoom can move outside of the concept of Time meaning he would not be able to be touched by anyone here...What about the runner?
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"King Saturn said:The Runner is Speed Based... the Runner exists within the concept of Time itself... he could beat The Flash here... but not Superman Prime or Zoom"Zoom wins. No one here can touch him... Zoom can move outside of the concept of Time meaning he would not be able to be touched by anyone here...What about the runner?"
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"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ?
"never give up said:Well he made silver surfer look like a complete fool. Also when he fought the silver surfer he looked much faster than him."King Saturn said:The Runner is Speed Based... the Runner exists within the concept of Time itself... he could beat The Flash here... but not Superman Prime or Zoom""Zoom wins. No one here can touch him... Zoom can move outside of the concept of Time meaning he would not be able to be touched by anyone here...What about the runner?"
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"The runner wins hes an elder of the universe and much faster than the others. Zooms powers probably wouldn't work on the runner and the runner is so fast hes by far the fastest one here. Prime doesn't belong in this group."Why did they downgrade this post there was nothing wrong with it.
"AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch."Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
"Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"energy charged superman prime
"King Saturn said:Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways..."AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.""Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
"AtPhantom said:But do know what the runner can do or has done."King Saturn said:Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways...""AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.""Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
"King Saturn said:Yes I Do... but its impossible to hit what you cant see or touch... and The Runner wouldnt be able to do either against Zoom... maybe the others but not this Yellow Flash Demon..."AtPhantom said:But do know what the runner can do or has done.""King Saturn said:Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways...""AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.""Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
"AtPhantom said:He will get a chance to because his durability is just insane. he could easily take a few hundred infinite mass punches and just go on like nothing has happened. Superman and wonder woman have survived zoom's IMPs, it's reasonble to think prime could take much more."King Saturn said:Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways...""AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.""Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
As for guradian prime, his power are not physical, but metaphysical. He could for example fly so fast he would go thorugh time or universes or dimensions. or could use his heat vision to cut a hole in reality for zoom to fall into and be erased form time. so yes he is very powerful.
"never give up said:He has punked thanos I dont think zoom could do that."King Saturn said:Yes I Do... but its impossible to hit what you cant see or touch... and The Runner wouldnt be able to do either against Zoom... maybe the others but not this Yellow Flash Demon...""AtPhantom said:But do know what the runner can do or has done.""King Saturn said:Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways...""AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.""Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
"King Saturn said:Well I was told Zoom didnt have an IMP attack... I actually thought he did too... but your logic sounds pretty good here... Prime could take a lot of Zoom's punches... but it would be hard for Prime to attack back when something is moving and attacking him that fast... I think his best hope would be Zoom would get tired of hitting him leaving him open for an attack then..."AtPhantom said:He will get a chance to because his durability is just insane. he could easily take a few hundred infinite mass punches and just go on like nothing has happened. Superman and wonder woman have survived zoom's IMPs, it's reasonble to think prime could take much more."King Saturn said:Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways...""AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.""Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
As for guradian prime, his power are not physical, but metaphysical. He could for example fly so fast he would go thorugh time or universes or dimensions. or could use his heat vision to cut a hole in reality for zoom to fall into and be erased form time. so yes he is very powerful."
"Why are people downgrading SeSaws posts..."
Because there is a PM going around telling people to do it and they are haters thats why I don't care they can waist there time Im still gonna post.
RUNNER FTW hes an elder of the universe none of the others have a chance
"never give up said:That is so immature..."Why are people downgrading SeSaws posts..."
Because there is a PM going around telling people to do it and they are haters thats why I don't care they can waist there time Im still gonna post.
RUNNER FTW "
never give up said:
"SeSAW said:"never give up said:That is so immature...""Why are people downgrading SeSaws posts..."
Because there is a PM going around telling people to do it and they are haters thats why I don't care they can waist there time Im still gonna post.
RUNNER FTW "
Really it is and its an idiotic waist of time. Its like I can't come up with a decent argument so instead of trying ill just delete his post. Childish.
I belive it was ZOOM who came up with this idea. And knowing him I understand why.
"King Saturn said:Well it depends... if Thanos is on solid ground and this is a random encounter... Zoom could punk Thanos... because Thanos would never be able to touch him... and since it also has be stated that Zoom attacks with Superman level strength... I cant imagine Thanos being able to survive being hit 1000's of times with Superman level punches and surviving..."never give up said:He has punked thanos I dont think zoom could do that."King Saturn said:Yes I Do... but its impossible to hit what you cant see or touch... and The Runner wouldnt be able to do either against Zoom... maybe the others but not this Yellow Flash Demon...""AtPhantom said:But do know what the runner can do or has done.""King Saturn said:Mmmmm.... maybe. I still have doubts about Prime beating Zoom unless he starts to rip the planet apart or something... but I dont think he will get the chance to. Zoom's speed is impossible to match since he travels outside of Time itself anyways...""AtPhantom said:Much. Guardian Prime could probably beat the other three... and their teammates quite easily. He is on par with monarch.""Wait is this normal superman prime or guardian energy charged superman prime?"How much would it matter in the fight if it was one or the other ? "
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But what is silver surfer top speed again.
Im pretty sure that silver surfer has some insane speed feats...
"Zoom couldn't do anything to Thanos. Runner is an elder an has near skyfather level power, he punked the Surfer right before he punked Thanos. "Really ? In a Random Encounter Zoom couldnt hurt Thanos ? Thanos himself needs reaction time to do something to someone... so how does Thanos stop someone who doesnt go by the Concept and Laws of Time itself ? Thanos wouldnt be able to even think to attack Zoom before he would be already on him pounding him... I mean it wont be live Zoom hits Thanos one time and Thanos can react to retailiate... Zoom will be hitting Thanos 1000's of times... there wont be any time for Thanos to react at all... now if Thanos know Zoom is coming maybe he could do something then...
"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself...
"SeSAW said:Cant silver surfer do that too..."Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
"King Saturn said:I never seen the Surfer do it so... I cant say he can"SeSAW said:Cant silver surfer do that too...""Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
"never give up said:Okay then."King Saturn said:I never seen the Surfer do it so... I cant say he can""SeSAW said:Cant silver surfer do that too...""Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
"Zoom wins in a race
Prime wins in an overall fight"
Not even. Superboy Prime was deathly afraid of Bart Allen. So much so that when given the choice of fighting Bart or fighting the entire GL Corp and the Guardians of the Universe, he choose the later. Flash Phobia indeed.
Now Bart Allen, as powerful of a character as he was during IC (not as powerful as Zoom), is a pretty nice guy. He was pissed off and all but he's nowhere near as scary as a guy who will beat down your mentor, your sidekick, hospitalize your wife, kill your unborn children and then force you to go back in time and watch him doing it over and over and over again.
Zoom would make Superboy Prime pee his pants. And then he'd kill him.
"HalJordan1986x said:lmfao"Zoom wins in a race
Prime wins in an overall fight"
Not even. Superboy Prime was deathly afraid of Bart Allen. So much so that when given the choice of fighting Bart or fighting the entire GL Corp and the Guardians of the Universe, he choose the later. Flash Phobia indeed.
Now Bart Allen, as powerful of a character as he was during IC (not as powerful as Zoom), is a pretty nice guy. He was pissed off and all but he's nowhere near as scary as a guy who will beat down your mentor, your sidekick, hospitalize your wife, kill your unborn children and then force you to go back in time and watch him doing it over and over and over again.
Zoom would make Superboy Prime pee his pants. And then he'd kill him."
"SeSAW said:Zoom affects time right well anyone who can time travel does the same thing. Flash has to use the speed force to TT. Surfer doesn't he can travel time and also has been shown to affect time. Surfer has allready beaten people who can manipulate time to a greater degree"Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
"King Saturn said:Zoom doesnt manipulate Time like other Time Travelers though... he uses it primarly as a factor of speed... where as the Surfer relies mainly on his amazing Superluminal Speed to travel..."SeSAW said:Zoom affects time right well anyone who can time travel does the same thing. Flash has to use the speed force to TT. Surfer doesn't he can travel time and also has been shown to affect time. Surfer has allready beaten people who can manipulate time to a greater degree ""Surfer is faster than everbody on that list except Runner he can be anywhy in the universe in minutes, I posted sacns in a few other threads of surfers speed feats. Try the last few pages of the Surfer vs Prime thread."Impossible. Surfer is not faster than Zoom... simply because Zoom's speed cant be measured at all... while the Surfer's can. It has been known for years that the Surfer travels at Superluminal Speeds... but you cant even measure the speed of Zoom... because he is beyond traveling speed itself... cause he can manipulate time itself to work against anyone here to make anyone here slower than himself..."
"I wonder if it would work outside of the Earths atmosphere?"I dont know... and I aint gonna try and make up stuff and say it will or wont...
Superman prime ftw. It took three speed force users to take him out temporarily at his weakest power levels yet he still came back. It's true that speedsters fair well against him but this is the guy who was taking on DC earth by himself before he even absorbed the guardians energy. With this energy, he curb stomps everyone.
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