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#1 Posted by WillPayton (9360 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom

VS

Silver Surfer and Thor

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Both teams find themselves on an unpopulated alternate-reality Earth, standing on the ground 30m apart. They are told that their only chance to get back to their universe is to defeat the other side. Win by KO, death, or incapacitation. (Zoom pre-52)

Who makes it back to their reality?

#2 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom fighting to the best of his ability blitz both of them to death. After all he has blitz Flash, Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman (LOL), 3 Flashes together.

Way too fast for either one here.

#3 Posted by BigCimmerian (8108 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Zoom fighting to the best of his ability blitz both of them to death. After all he has blitz Flash, Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman (LOL), 3 Flashes together.

Way too fast for either one here.

He blitzed goddamn Batman? :O then he wins :)

#4 Posted by WillPayton (9360 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile said:

@WillPayton:

Are all contestants in this battle blood lusted?

The OP says what the scenario is.

#5 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton said:

@Vouile said:

@WillPayton:

Are all contestants in this battle blood lusted?

The OP says what the scenario is.

Lol', My bad, thanks.

#6 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@Killemall said:

Zoom fighting to the best of his ability blitz both of them to death. After all he has blitz Flash, Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman (LOL), 3 Flashes together.

Way too fast for either one here.

He blitzed goddamn Batman? :O then he wins :)

Funny part is , Batman wasnt even KOed :p

nor does he have any significant wound to show for.

#7 Posted by BigCimmerian (8108 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@Killemall said:

Zoom fighting to the best of his ability blitz both of them to death. After all he has blitz Flash, Wonder Woman, Superman, Batman (LOL), 3 Flashes together.

Way too fast for either one here.

He blitzed goddamn Batman? :O then he wins :)

Funny part is , Batman wasnt even KOed :p

nor does he have any significant wound to show for.

Because he's Batman :D

#8 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

Because he's Batman :D

I kind of walked into that didnt i LOL.

#9 Edited by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2: The Silver Surfer and Thor

Vouile

#10 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2919 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom

#11 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins this battle for the reason he wins basically every other battle.

#12 Posted by XiiX (8047 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

Zoom wins this battle for the reason he wins basically every other battle.

#13 Edited by jashro44 (20837 posts) - - Show Bio

The only way to really beat zoom is if you are either to durable to be harmed or there is some reason he wont tag you, or maybe a prep master with prep. Silver surfer and thor are none of these things unfortunately.

#14 Posted by XiiX (8047 posts) - - Show Bio

You could throw in Gladiator, Sentry, Blue Marvel, and nearly any other powerhouse, and Zoom'd still win.

#15 Posted by nickthedevil (12107 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

You could throw in Gladiator, Sentry, Blue Marvel, and nearly any other powerhouse, and Zoom'd still win.

@jashro44

said:

The only way to really beat zoom is if you are either to durable to be harmed or there is some reason he wont tag you, or maybe a prep master with prep. Silver surfer and thor are none of these things unfortunately.

#16 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

ZOOOOM.

#17 Posted by MarvelAvengersAlliance10 (222 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor and SS

#18 Posted by TheVoiceOfReason (747 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

You could throw in Gladiator, Sentry, Blue Marvel, and nearly any other powerhouse, and Zoom'd still win.

#19 Posted by Fenderzenders (65 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheVoiceOfReason said:

@XiiX said:

You could throw in Gladiator, Sentry, Blue Marvel, and nearly any other powerhouse, and Zoom'd still win.

This

Despite the fact that Thor and Silver Surfer are arguably more powerful than Zoom, they can do nothing as Zoom bombards them with thousands of Superman level punches in the blink of an eye.

#20 Posted by laflux (15418 posts) - - Show Bio

to beat people like zoom or flash you need to have a considerable degree of reality/time warping abilities or be faster.

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#21 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: That was because Zoom was toying with them.

#22 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom

#23 Posted by BigCimmerian (8108 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxxddd said:

@BigCimmerian: That was because Zoom was toying with them.

No, it's because that was Batman.

#24 Posted by Lord_Moldemvort (144 posts) - - Show Bio

let me guess, zoom stomps via speedblitz?

anything that has to do with characters being stupidly fast is just overrated and over powered

#25 Posted by venomsapprentice (631 posts) - - Show Bio
@laflux said:

to beat people like zoom or flash you need to have a considerable degree of reality/time warping abilities or be faster.

SS HAS reality warping abilities, unless I'm mistaken.
He also has the ability to temporarily suppress the powers of other beings. 
 
BTW Zooms powers work on relativity. SS utilizes the power cosmic to go into hyperspace. Zooms powers would therefore be unable to directly affect SS. 
 
Unlike Flash, Zoom doesn't posses genuine Super Speed, but rather a localized time warp that allows him to slow down everyone but himself. A being in hyperspace would be immune to such an effect. Leaving Zoom open to a variety of cosmic based attacks.
#26 Posted by laflux (15418 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomsapprentice said:

@laflux said:

to beat people like zoom or flash you need to have a considerable degree of reality/time warping abilities or be faster.

SS HAS reality warping abilities, unless I'm mistaken. He also has the ability to temporarily suppress the powers of other beings. BTW Zooms powers work on relativity. SS utilizes the power cosmic to go into hyperspace. Zooms powers would therefore be unable to directly affect SS. Unlike Flash, Zoom doesn't posses genuine Super Speed, but rather a localized time warp that allows him to slow down everyone but himself. A being in hyperspace would be immune to such an effect. Leaving Zoom open to a variety of cosmic based attacks.

good points and true but the thing is morals on surfer barely ever uses those said powers

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#27 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@xxxddd said:

@BigCimmerian: That was because Zoom was toying with them.

No, it's because that was Batman.

Co-signed :)

He is the goddamn batman

#28 Edited by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer solos

#29 Posted by Anarkyreigns007 (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@jackofspades said:

Surfer solos

You're an idiot

#30 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@Anarkyreigns007: That's the second time you've insulted a user. This is your second warning, the next will be your last.

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#31 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@Anarkyreigns007: That's the second time you've insulted a user. This is your second warning, the next will be your last.

You do realise thats Dex_Starr right? He is kind of used to getting banned :p

#32 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Oh well, my bad! :P

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#33 Edited by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom is capable of slowing time around him,,,but as stated earlier SS rarely uses his true abilities so does Thor for that matter,,,I think this isn't a stomp but zoom will take a slight majority 6/10 maybe 7.

#34 Posted by YoungJustice (6797 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom kills them as children.

#35 Posted by Billy Batson (57957 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bane_of_sith said:

Zoom is capable of slowing time around him,,,but as stated earlier SS rarely uses his true abilities so does Thor for that matter,,,I think this isn't a stomp but zoom will take a slight majority 6/10 maybe 7.

Zoom takes it 10/10.

@YoungJustice said:

Zoom kills them as children.

Not really possible.
BB

#36 Posted by jashro44 (20837 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomsapprentice said:

@laflux said:

to beat people like zoom or flash you need to have a considerable degree of reality/time warping abilities or be faster.

SS HAS reality warping abilities, unless I'm mistaken. He also has the ability to temporarily suppress the powers of other beings. BTW Zooms powers work on relativity. SS utilizes the power cosmic to go into hyperspace. Zooms powers would therefore be unable to directly affect SS. Unlike Flash, Zoom doesn't posses genuine Super Speed, but rather a localized time warp that allows him to slow down everyone but himself. A being in hyperspace would be immune to such an effect. Leaving Zoom open to a variety of cosmic based attacks.

Sadly I don't think surfer can fight at hyper space...I think its only for travel.

#37 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

I think SS andnthor working in conjunction might pull off a win or two,,but your right zoom wins I never doubted that,,,I think it's hope that drives me to say they can pull off a couple wins lol

#38 Posted by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

I am still confused as to how zoom who cant fly is going to blitz SS who hovers. Zoom just gets way to much credits in these forums. SS alone can beat zoom morals off.

#39 Posted by GhostRider2 (3282 posts) - - Show Bio

@icysloth: i agree with you SS has too many powers.

#40 Posted by RagingB0ner (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bane_of_sith said:

I think SS andnthor working in conjunction might pull off a win or two,,but your right zoom wins I never doubted that,,,I think it's hope that drives me to say they can pull off a couple wins lol

The only way that Surfer can pull off a win or two is if Zoom is purposely not fighting back and standing still

@icysloth said:

I am still confused as to how zoom who cant fly is going to blitz SS who hovers. Zoom just gets way to much credits in these forums. SS alone can beat zoom morals off.

Unless Surfer is starting high in the air where Zoom can't hit him, Zoom can easily run up buildings and other structures to reach Surfer. Morals off Surfer only wins if he's starting in the atmosphere. If he's anywhere near the ground Zoom would beat him to death before he even thought about flying high into the air

#41 Posted by RagingB0ner (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Deranged Midget said:

@Anarkyreigns007: That's the second time you've insulted a user. This is your second warning, the next will be your last.

You do realise thats Dex_Starr right? He is kind of used to getting banned :p

You seem to have a ragingb0ner for this dex starr fellow. did he take you out on a date and forget to give you his phone number?

#42 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

This is true..the fact at they start 30m apart on the ground gives a massive advantage to zoom,,,if Thor and SS were in the air away from skyscrapers they might have a chance but unfortunately they are not zoom wins,,,which is what I originally stated but I change my answer from 7/10. To 10/10

#43 Posted by termiteone4ever (7209 posts) - - Show Bio

NOw 30 meters . how does either Thor or surfer stands a chance . Thats before they can even react or think or do anything. IF this the zoom that life drains as well ?

#44 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

SS and Thor let Zoom win because its Earth and they dont want to destroy it in a fight.

In a case where they are bloodlusted, Zoom dies Horribly.

#45 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton: Fight takes place inside DCU. No Speed Force in MU, Zoom will get horribly pawned.

#46 Posted by WillPayton (9360 posts) - - Show Bio

@whydama said:

@WillPayton: Fight takes place inside DCU. No Speed Force in MU, Zoom will get horribly pawned.

What??

#47 Posted by laflux (15418 posts) - - Show Bio

@WillPayton said:

@whydama said:

@WillPayton: Fight takes place inside DCU. No Speed Force in MU, Zoom will get horribly pawned.

What??

Exactly what the hell. Zoom doesn't use the speed force.

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#48 Edited by icysloth (1305 posts) - - Show Bio

@RagingB0ner said:

@Bane_of_sith said:

I think SS andnthor working in conjunction might pull off a win or two,,but your right zoom wins I never doubted that,,,I think it's hope that drives me to say they can pull off a couple wins lol

The only way that Surfer can pull off a win or two is if Zoom is purposely not fighting back and standing still

@icysloth said:

I am still confused as to how zoom who cant fly is going to blitz SS who hovers. Zoom just gets way to much credits in these forums. SS alone can beat zoom morals off.

Unless Surfer is starting high in the air where Zoom can't hit him, Zoom can easily run up buildings and other structures to reach Surfer. Morals off Surfer only wins if he's starting in the atmosphere. If he's anywhere near the ground Zoom would beat him to death before he even thought about flying high into the air

how is he going to kill SS, he can reconstruct himself after being turned into spheres by a galactus level being

That being said he has stated he cannot die

zoom can control time around him but surfer can travel through it

his reaction and intellect feats outmatch Zooms also as he here absorbs a millenia's worth of information in seconds

hes planet busted as has thor

besides that I think zoom punching him 1000 times would just end up hurting his hand

he could also atomize Zoom

#49 Posted by RaginVegann (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@icysloth:None of those feats are relevant in the least bit.

#50 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@icysloth: How is Zoom going to kill him? I suppose the same way Thanos did but a billion times faster.