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#1 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off, to the death. Fight takes place in downtown Atlanta, Georgia.

#2 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - - Show Bio

If bfr is allowed then team 2 stomps.

#3 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think the team can touch zoom

#4 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

If bfr is allowed then team 2 stomps.

No bfr. @Enemybird said:

I dont think the team can touch zoom

I think Surfers speed is on par or close to zoom's.

#5 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't think zoom's punches would even faze prime

which version though?

we talking zolomon zoom or thawne?

we talking SPB after taking the oan energy then becoming SMP or the golden one?

#6 Posted by DrinkUrPruneJuice77 (1598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@DrinkUrPruneJuice77 said:

If bfr is allowed then team 2 stomps.

No bfr. @Enemybird said:

I dont think the team can touch zoom

I think Surfers speed is on par or close to zoom's.

No, Zoom is much faster than SS.

#7 Posted by nickthedevil (12105 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins. Professor Zoom makes this a stomp.

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#8 Posted by nickthedevil (12105 posts) - - Show Bio

IF it's*** Professor Zoom he makes this a stomp

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#9 Posted by Enemybird (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

I say stalemate

#10 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Prime

#11 Posted by Immortal777 (7357 posts) - - Show Bio

No Zoom could harm Superman Prime and since time doesnt actually stop they bust the planet

#12 Posted by TifaLockhart (14044 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman-Prime was getting bloodied from Bart Allen's punches. I say Zoom wins.

#13 Posted by m0ntyb0y (1245 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom gets tagged and KTFO by Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Liberty Bell

He's also an extremely arrogant character who tries to play around with his opponents

#14 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2174 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer, I could say he solos.

#15 Posted by Billy Batson (57957 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

I think Surfers speed is on par or close to zoom's.

@Dark Cloud™ said:

Surfer, I could say he solos.

lol, no.
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#16 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, because Surfer was so fast while Thanos was beating him to death.

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#17 Posted by Bo88gdan (4397 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer solos.

#18 Posted by BigCimmerian (8096 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins, Surfer may solo

#19 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Prime

#20 Posted by Killerjax (353 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438 said:

Superman Prime

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

#21 Posted by HolySerpent (12519 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman prime.

#22 Posted by HolySerpent (12519 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash has never beating prime. Only thing hes able to do is bfr, and even then the flashes couldnt hold him there.

#23 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

I personally think the Surfer solos. I don't think Zoom or Prof. Zoom have any physical way of harming him.

#24 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

Superman-Prime was getting bloodied from Bart Allen's punches. I say Zoom wins.

Ha! If he was afraid of Bart, Jay, and Wally, he'll be making a mess of himself if he see's Zoom.

Zoom stomps Surfer and Prime.

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#25 Posted by HolySerpent (12519 posts) - - Show Bio

He wasn't getting bloodied. It was a nose bleed. That had no affect on him what so ever

#26 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

@HolySerpent: Lol. I hate when people over exaggerate.

#27 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1602 posts) - - Show Bio

...so everyone's aware that Superman Prime would be Post Crisis Superman in the 853rd century right? When he's golden. Are we talking about him or Superman-Prime? (Superboy-Prime on Guardian steroids)

#28 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

...so everyone's aware that Superman Prime would be Post Crisis Superman in the 853rd century right? When he's golden. Are we talking about him or Superman-Prime? (Superboy-Prime on Guardian steroids)

Superman Prime

#29 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

I personally think the Surfer solos. I don't think Zoom or Prof. Zoom have any physical way of harming him.

Repeated punching will suffice.

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#30 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

I personally think the Surfer solos. I don't think Zoom or Prof. Zoom have any physical way of harming him.

Repeated punching will suffice.

Even if he repeatedly hits him, surfer has crazy durability. He has taken hits from hulk, thor, and thanos. What makes you think someone with human strength. Anyways, surfer can always just phase through his hits, or just control his molecules and turn him into a toaster.

#31 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

I personally think the Surfer solos. I don't think Zoom or Prof. Zoom have any physical way of harming him.

Repeated punching will suffice.

Even if he repeatedly hits him, surfer has crazy durability. He has taken hits from hulk, thor, and thanos. What makes you think someone with human strength. Anyways, surfer can always just phase through his hits, or just control his molecules and turn him into a toaster.

So does Wonder Woman, she's taken hits from Superman, Darkseid, Despero, Martian Manhunter, Orion (should I go on?) and Zoom was literally kicking her around the world. Surfer is not fast enough to react to Zoom.

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#32 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#33 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

That is travel speed. Not reaction speed. Surfer has never reacted to anyone who moves as fast as Zoom, and all the wonderful things he can do are a moot point if he cannot react to Zolomon in the first place.

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#34 Posted by Billy Batson (57957 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay:
Surfer can't even touch Zoom.
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#35 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson: @CitizenBane: Morals are off, seeing as Zoom can't really harm Surfer, what's to stop Surfer from blowing the planet up. We'll see how his speed fairs against the vacuum of space.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#36 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@Billy Batson: @CitizenBane: Morals are off, seeing as Zoom can't really harm Surfer, what's to stop Surfer from blowing the planet up. We'll see how his speed fairs against the vacuum of space.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Probably because leaving the planet to blow it up from afar constitutes a BFR and thus a loss, and Surfer can literally not take any action before Zoom strikes. Let's see how the Power Cosmic fares against the rules of the Battle Forum.

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#37 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Either way SS has nanosecond+ reaction timing, and has tanked blows from beings who pack a much bigger punch than Zoom and come out on top. Realistically what is Zoom ever going to do that can hurt SS? If Zoom makes a single mistake he's toast, and if he gets tired he's done, if he trips on something, he's done, if the Surfer manages a glancing blow, he's done. I'm sorry, but Zoom is not taking the Silver Surfer, he's tough, he bounced WW across the planet like a tennis ball, he has beaten entire squads of heroes, but he's not taking Silver Surfer.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#38 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@CitizenBane: Either way SS has nanosecond+ reaction timing, and has tanked blows from beings who pack a much bigger punch than Zoom and come out on top. Realistically what is Zoom ever going to do that can hurt SS? If Zoom makes a single mistake he's toast, and if he gets tired he's done, if he trips on something, he's done, if the Surfer manages a glancing blow, he's done. I'm sorry, but Zoom is not taking the Silver Surfer, he's tough, he bounced WW across the planet like a tennis ball, he has beaten entire squads of heroes, but he's not taking Silver Surfer.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Which isn't good enough, quite frankly. Flash's reaction time is in the range of picoseconds and occasionally in atto and femtoseconds. Which means he reacts a lot faster than Surfer does. Zoom wrecked him twice, and Flash couldn't win even while charged with the speed of three other Speed Force users. All your situations are based on Zoom somehow slipping up rather than a viable plan of action for Surfer. That should tell you something. Wonder Woman, as stated above, has taken hits from Superman, Darkseid, Despero, Orion and others who technically pack a bigger punch than Zoom, and was still bounced around the planet, as you put it. And it's not as if brute force doesn't work on Surfer, Thanos beat him to death with his bare hands and nothing else.

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#39 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: SS can still go intangible, and can still take hits for quite awhile. I still think that Zoom will get tired long before Silver Surfer does. Not to mention he can alter Zoom's mood, emotion, and train of thought. Over and above that he can make force fields, he could change the battlefield, making it slippery, or sticky, or find a way to hinder Zoom's movement. These are all well within his power. Not to mention I forget that SMP is here too, Zoom is not taking this.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#40 Edited by majestic99 (8637 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 curbstomps.

There's no way Zoom can take on both of them.

Either one could solo.

#41 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@CitizenBane: SS can still go intangible, and can still take hits for quite awhile. I still think that Zoom will get tired long before Silver Surfer does. Not to mention he can alter Zoom's mood, emotion, and train of thought. Over and above that he can make force fields, he could change the battlefield, making it slippery, or sticky, or find a way to hinder Zoom's movement. These are all well within his power. Not to mention I forget that SMP is here too, Zoom is not taking this.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

You keep saying he can do all these things, how hard is it to understand that he simply cannot do anything before Zoom strikes? He is not fast enough! I know how versatile Surfer is. I know all the things he can do. But none of those things matter if he can't pull them off quickly enough. And he can't. Prime is just as incapable of keeping up with Zoom, I fail to see why you think his presence changes anything. His showings against Bart Allen in Infinite Crisis and Legion of Three Worlds say otherwise.

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#42 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Floopay said:

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

That is travel speed. Not reaction speed. Surfer has never reacted to anyone who moves as fast as Zoom, and all the wonderful things he can do are a moot point if he cannot react to Zolomon in the first place.

Not intangibility and Molecule control.

#43 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Floopay said:

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

That is travel speed. Not reaction speed. Surfer has never reacted to anyone who moves as fast as Zoom, and all the wonderful things he can do are a moot point if he cannot react to Zolomon in the first place.

Not intangibility and Molecule control.

Every. Single. Thing. Surfer. Can. Do. Requires. Him. To. First. Either. Think. Or. React. Neither. Of. Which. He. Can. Do. Before. Zoom. Strikes.

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#44 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Floopay said:

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

That is travel speed. Not reaction speed. Surfer has never reacted to anyone who moves as fast as Zoom, and all the wonderful things he can do are a moot point if he cannot react to Zolomon in the first place.

Not intangibility and Molecule control.

Every. Single. Thing. Surfer. Can. Do. Requires. Him. To. First. Either. Think. Or. React. Neither. Of. Which. He. Can. Do. Before. Zoom. Strikes.

Ok, even if he can't react, how can zoom hurt him without it being PIS or CIS.

#45 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom.

#46 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Floopay said:

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

That is travel speed. Not reaction speed. Surfer has never reacted to anyone who moves as fast as Zoom, and all the wonderful things he can do are a moot point if he cannot react to Zolomon in the first place.

Not intangibility and Molecule control.

Every. Single. Thing. Surfer. Can. Do. Requires. Him. To. First. Either. Think. Or. React. Neither. Of. Which. He. Can. Do. Before. Zoom. Strikes.

Ok, even if he can't react, how can zoom hurt him without it being PIS or CIS.

Zoom's hurt Superman and Wonder Woman without a problem. So.....what exactly are you talking about?

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#47 Posted by God_Spawn (37718 posts) - - Show Bio

I fail to see how so many people still can't understand the use of Zoom's powers and context of why Zoom gets tagged in the first place.

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#48 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@god_spawn said:

I fail to see how so many people still can't understand the use of Zoom's powers and context of why Zoom gets tagged in the first place.

I fail to see why people don't just read comics with Zoom in them. If they did, we could avoid this recurring cycle that turns up every time a Zoom battle thread is created.
#49 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2819 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Floopay said:

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

That is travel speed. Not reaction speed. Surfer has never reacted to anyone who moves as fast as Zoom, and all the wonderful things he can do are a moot point if he cannot react to Zolomon in the first place.

Not intangibility and Molecule control.

Every. Single. Thing. Surfer. Can. Do. Requires. Him. To. First. Either. Think. Or. React. Neither. Of. Which. He. Can. Do. Before. Zoom. Strikes.

Ok, even if he can't react, how can zoom hurt him without it being PIS or CIS.

Zoom's hurt Superman and Wonder Woman without a problem. So.....what exactly are you talking about?

Silver Surfer has way higher durability than them put together.

#50 Posted by Saren (25617 posts) - - Show Bio

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Floopay said:

Surfer moves several times faster than the speed of light at his fastest, he can be intangible, has matter manipulation, energy manipulation, can lift 100 tons with his pinky. Is nearly invulnerable without being intangible, has energy blasts that can destroy planets without direct contact, can fly, and has a myriad of other abilities. Zoom is not taking this one, I love Zoom, he might be able to take SMP, but Surfer can take Zoom, and possibly even take SMP and Zoom...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

That is travel speed. Not reaction speed. Surfer has never reacted to anyone who moves as fast as Zoom, and all the wonderful things he can do are a moot point if he cannot react to Zolomon in the first place.

Not intangibility and Molecule control.

Every. Single. Thing. Surfer. Can. Do. Requires. Him. To. First. Either. Think. Or. React. Neither. Of. Which. He. Can. Do. Before. Zoom. Strikes.

Ok, even if he can't react, how can zoom hurt him without it being PIS or CIS.

Zoom's hurt Superman and Wonder Woman without a problem. So.....what exactly are you talking about?

Silver Surfer has way higher durability than them put together.

His durability is hardly that high, and he's simply not durable enough to just shrug off a Zoom blitz. You're assuming brute force won't work on Surfer in this instance despite the fact that it's worked for Thanos, Thor and Beta Ray Bill. I have no idea why you think Zolomon can't replicate the effect. Perhaps it fits your placement of Zoom better.

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