zoom vs rune king thor

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#1 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (12333 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

i just want to see what people will say because some zoom fans are crazy
nomorals
both are bloodlusted
no bfr
who wins and why

#2 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Rune Thor stomps.
#3 Posted by progenitor (7413 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
Rune Thor stomps.

Agreed.
#4 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11776 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
Rune Thor stomps.
#5 Posted by JediXMan (23363 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Rune King Thor should win.

#6 Posted by lord_galactus (486 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Rune Thor MASS MURDER, he would hit zoom so hard anyone dressed like flash would die 

#7 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38672 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
Rune Thor stomps.
#8 Posted by Omarpool (6773 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
#9 Posted by lord_galactus (486 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Oh you asked why well ok.

Rune thor has force fields,much stronger than his father IN EVER ASPECT due to the extreme sacrifices he made that surpassed his fathers own sacrifices to get the power of "odinforce' hence why he is called rune and not odinforce thor.

He can teleport anywhere to any realm,at this power level Rune Thor no longer needs mjiolnir so he only caries it at his waist side. 

His list of powers go on and on,I dont think to many people can rival him..maybe superman prime MAYBE.

#10 Posted by Jezer (2652 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Does anyone in this thread know how to argue?
#11 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (12333 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Jezer: you think zoom wins?
#12 Posted by progenitor (7413 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Jezer said:
Does anyone in this thread know how to argue?

Of course.
#13 Posted by daak1212 (7798 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

How would RKT even hit Zoom?  Granted Thor has way more then enough firepower to do it

#14 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio


Rune Thor wins becuase:

 

1. He's abstract level.

2. He's nigh-omniscient.

3. His rune power creates auto-shields that easily withstood Mangogs attacks.

4. He has shown telepathy and teleportation when communicating with Beta ray Bill.

5. He destroyed and then, rebuiled Vahalla.

6. His lower levels, King Thor, manipulated time, fought a universal buster, and defeated marvel earth.

7. His even lower levels have done feats that are multi-planetary.

#15 Posted by progenitor (7413 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

I believe it's been said that Zoom hits as hard (if not harder) than Superman, IIRC.  So, although Zoom has an incredible amount of speed and power behind him, how would he be able to defend against the Norse mystics that are a part of Mjolnir, or Thor having ascended to being RKT? I'll say this because it asked for an explanation, I don't think that Zoom has what it takes to put RKT down.  Also the question, how does Thor do something when Zoom is on top of him with punches & whatnot? Thor is used to punishment and taking hits, so I think that he could focus enough to utilize his magic and find a way to deal with Zoom.
#16 Posted by progenitor (7413 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:


Rune Thor wins becuase:

 

1. He's abstract level.

2. He's nigh-omniscient.

3. His rune power creates auto-shields that easily withstood Mangogs attacks.

4. He has shown telepathy and teleportation when communicating with Beta ray Bill.

5. He destroyed and then, rebuiled Vahalla.

6. His lower levels, King Thor, manipulated time, fought a universal buster, and defeated marvel earth.

7. His even lower levels have done feats that are multi-planetary.


Well said.
#17 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38672 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@lord_galactus said:
Rune Thor MASS MURDER, he would hit zoom so hard anyone dressed like flash would die 
lol
#18 Posted by Jezer (2652 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@dccomicsrule2011 said:


                    @Jezer: you think zoom wins?

                   

               


No, I think you guys haven't made any argument for how Rune King Thor wins.

 

I'm sure, by the way everyone's hyping him up, he's very powerful. More powerful than the those people who remain in the shadows? or whatever they're called. The gods to the gods.

Anyways, with all that power, I'm sure he must have insane durability. Post a feat showing that, and argue that.

 

Is he omniscient or close? Post the feat showing that.

 

You established he can make Force Fields. Great.

 

Last, did he at that point ascend to the level of a god? Post the feat showing that and argue that he doesn't have the same limitations such as reflexes that he had as normal Thor. That he's become a whole new entity.

 

Put all that together, and you can make an argument for him. It's not that hard.

#19 Edited by Distortion (320 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@lord_galactus said:

Rune Thor MASS MURDER, he would hit zoom so hard anyone dressed like flash would die 

LOL
#20 Posted by SilverGalford (2930 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
Rune Thor stomps.
and so hard , zoom won't be able to resist the powerful attacks of RT 
#21 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Jezer said:


                    @dccomicsrule2011 said:


                    @Jezer: you think zoom wins?

                   

               


No, I think you guys haven't made any argument for how Rune King Thor wins.

 

I'm sure, by the way everyone's hyping him up, he's very powerful. More powerful than the those people who remain in the shadows? or whatever they're called. The gods to the gods.

Anyways, with all that power, I'm sure he must have insane durability. Post a feat showing that, and argue that.

 

Is he omniscient or close? Post the feat showing that.

 

You established he can make Force Fields. Great.

 

Last, did he at that point ascend to the level of a god? Post the feat showing that and argue that he doesn't have the same limitations such as reflexes that he had as normal Thor. That he's become a whole new entity.

 

Put all that together, and you can make an argument for him. It's not that hard.



                   

               


We don't have to. He wins easily and stomps.

 

He was never injured nor hurt when he was Rune Thor.

 

He's nigh-omniscient. Scan is in my Thor images.

 

Google Rune Thor. It's states in his bio he's far above Odin in this stage. In other scans, his power rivals or is above Celestial beings.

 

Ok. Let me put it this way, Thor manipulates time, uses his nigh-omniscient, and kills Zoom. Or busts the galaxy (A>B>C logic works for skyfather or higher level beings)

#22 Edited by Jezer (2652 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Let me put it this way "saying Rune King Thor stomps" is not an argument. Saying "Rune King Thor can do this and that" is not an argument unless you can relate it to Zoom.

You don't have to argue? That's pretty much the lazy person's philosophy to battles. The interesting part of the battles is watching the debates, less about knowing who the winner is, and more about why and what thought process a person uses to decide. For people who don't know alot about the character's in a battle, the argument of their abilities is the way for them to find out.

 

It's funny because you had it before.

 

@Susanoo said:




Rune Thor wins becuase:

1. He's abstract level.

2. He's nigh-omniscient.

3. His rune power creates auto-shields that easily withstood Mangogs attacks.

4. He has shown telepathy and teleportation when communicating with Beta ray Bill.

5. He destroyed and then, rebuiled Vahalla.

6. His lower levels, King Thor, manipulated time, fought a universal buster, and defeated marvel earth.

7. His even lower levels have done feats that are multi-planetary.





 

You add 2 with 3, throw in the fact he's 1, and you have an argument. The rest of the points don't actually matter or apply.

Oh, and the last sentence in your last post is an argument with low inductive probability.

 

#23 Posted by czarny_samael666 (14246 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

RKT stomps...

#24 Posted by karrob (4211 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@lord_galactus said:
Rune Thor MASS MURDER, he would hit zoom so hard anyone dressed like flash would die 
Lmao!
#25 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:


                   


Rune Thor wins becuase:

 

1. He's abstract level.

2. He's nigh-omniscient.

3. His rune power creates auto-shields that easily withstood Mangogs attacks.

4. He has shown telepathy and teleportation when communicating with Beta ray Bill.

5. He destroyed and then, rebuiled Vahalla.

6. His lower levels, King Thor, manipulated time, fought a universal buster, and defeated marvel earth.

7. His even lower levels have done feats that are multi-planetary.



                   

               
#26 Posted by texasdeathmatch (12637 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Jezer said:

Let me put it this way "saying Rune King Thor stomps" is not an argument. Saying "Rune King Thor can do this and that" is not an argument unless you can relate it to Zoom.

You don't have to argue? That's pretty much the lazy person's philosophy to battles. The interesting part of the battles is watching the debates, less about knowing who the winner is, and more about why and what thought process a person uses to decide. For people who don't know alot about the character's in a battle, the argument of their abilities is the way for them to find out.

 

 

This is exactly why battle threads have significantly dropped downhill recently. Everyone's so eager to post who'd win yet too lazy to provide any arguments. I haven't seen any good debates here for a while.
#27 Posted by Night_Rake (1485 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@daak1212 said:
How would RKT even hit Zoom?  Granted Thor has way more then enough firepower to do it
Destroy the universe Zoom is living in.
#28 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:


                    @Jezer said:

Let me put it this way "saying Rune King Thor stomps" is not an argument. Saying "Rune King Thor can do this and that" is not an argument unless you can relate it to Zoom.

You don't have to argue? That's pretty much the lazy person's philosophy to battles. The interesting part of the battles is watching the debates, less about knowing who the winner is, and more about why and what thought process a person uses to decide. For people who don't know alot about the character's in a battle, the argument of their abilities is the way for them to find out.

 

 


This is exactly why battle threads have significantly dropped downhill recently. Everyone's so eager to post who'd win yet too lazy to provide any arguments. I haven't seen any good debates here for a while.

                   

               

Your pretty much looking in the wrong threads.
#29 Posted by texasdeathmatch (12637 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo: I tend to avoid generic threads that involve Doomsday, Thanos, Darkseid, Zoom, or Thor (other than this one, haha). If you're talking about those threads, there isn't anything there I haven't seen 200 times before.
#30 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:


                    @Susanoo: I tend to avoid generic threads that involve Doomsday, Thanos, Darkseid, Zoom, or Thor (other than this one, haha). If you're talking about those threads, there isn't anything there I haven't seen 200 times before.

                   

               

haha. The best battles are usually the street level ones (By SL, I mean Spidey, Deathstroke, wolverine ect) and/or threads with characters like Magneto (Science is fun to discuss).
#31 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10212 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Rune King Thor wins, hes nigh omniscient and can will zoom out of existence,

#32 Posted by texasdeathmatch (12637 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo: Oh def. I'm ALL about street level battles. Science ones are fun, but I start to feel dumb when people get crazy technical about it.
#33 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:


                    @Susanoo: Oh def. I'm ALL about street level battles. Science ones are fun, but I start to feel dumb when people get crazy technical about it.

                   

               

rofl. Learn from them then man ^^
#34 Posted by baron2011 (1137 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
@texasdeathmatch said:


                    @Susanoo: Oh def. I'm ALL about street level battles. Science ones are fun, but I start to feel dumb when people get crazy technical about it.

                   

               
rofl. Learn from them then man ^^
hey man i have a question
is zoom above the speed force or not?
#35 Posted by supermandefender (1963 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@progenitor: We agree here. Zoom should have no chance.
#36 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@baron2011 said:


                    @Susanoo said:

@texasdeathmatch said:


                    @Susanoo: Oh def. I'm ALL about street level battles. Science ones are fun, but I start to feel dumb when people get crazy technical about it.

                   

               
rofl. Learn from them then man ^^

                   

               
hey man i have a questionis zoom above the speed force or not?

                   

               

In DC, the Time barrier is above the speed barrier. So yes. Also, Zoom living in a different time zone gives him powers similar to speedsters but far superior however since time > speed.
#37 Posted by supermandefender (1963 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@baron2011: No Zoom is not above Speed force. He has access to the negative speed force. He technically is not using Speed at all. But even soo he can still move ultra fast. Really doesnt matter Rune King Thor can control fundamental forces in the universe. He will be aware of the Speed forces if he was fighting Zoom and he would know that Positive Speed force takes away his powers and then RKT destorys him.
#38 Edited by Susanoo (5909 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@supermandefender said:



                    @baron2011: No Zoom is not above Speed force. He has access to the negative speed force. He technically is not using Speed at all. But even soo he can still move ultra fast. Really doesnt matter Rune King Thor can control fundamental forces in the universe. He will be aware of the Speed forces if he was fighting Zoom and he would know that Positive Speed force takes away his powers and then RKT destorys him.

                   

               


.... Negative speed force is a fancy word for time and that was Professor Zoom. Zoom lives in a different time zone and thus, is the result of his powers. Not to mention DCs time barrier is > the speed barrier.
#39 Edited by Sgtcrispy (414 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@supermandefender said:

@baron2011: No Zoom is not above Speed force. He has access to the negative speed force. He technically is not using Speed at all. But even soo he can still move ultra fast. Really doesnt matter Rune King Thor can control fundamental forces in the universe. He will be aware of the Speed forces if he was fighting Zoom and he would know that Positive Speed force takes away his powers and then RKT destorys him.

That's Professor Zoom, they're two different characters. Zoom is immune to any speed force attacks that I've seen Wally try to pull.

#40 Posted by Bucketz (823 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

  

Rune Thor would run a STOMPATHON on Zoom. his is in no way fair.
#41 Posted by Jezer (2652 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@texasdeathmatch said:


                    @Jezer said:

Let me put it this way "saying Rune King Thor stomps" is not an argument. Saying "Rune King Thor can do this and that" is not an argument unless you can relate it to Zoom.

You don't have to argue? That's pretty much the lazy person's philosophy to battles. The interesting part of the battles is watching the debates, less about knowing who the winner is, and more about why and what thought process a person uses to decide. For people who don't know alot about the character's in a battle, the argument of their abilities is the way for them to find out.

 

 


This is exactly why battle threads have significantly dropped downhill recently. Everyone's so eager to post who'd win yet too lazy to provide any arguments. I haven't seen any good debates here for a while.

                   

               


When I get bored enough later, I'll make an argument for Rune King Thor. Then make an argument for Zoom. And then, argue with myself taking both opposing sides.

 

I call it pulling a DID(dissociative identity disorder),

#42 Posted by texasdeathmatch (12637 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Jezer: haha nice, I'll look forward to that.
#43 Posted by whacknasty (5516 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Jezer: Lol. I will read it, sounds interesting.

Question about Zoom really quick though, for anyone who may know or can explain it...

Can he effect the way that physical attacks hit him? Using time manip to in a way steal momentum from the attack, and making it weaker?  Or would that be more for the Flashes and the Speed Force? 
#44 Edited by TheSupremeBeing (205 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio


 

Lord Thor Curbstomps

 

Zoom is like a fly always buzzing around eventualy thor will hit him.

#45 Posted by Mercy_ (85073 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Jezer Well said.
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#46 Edited by Sgtcrispy (414 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@whacknasty said:

@Jezer: Lol. I will read it, sounds interesting.

Question about Zoom really quick though, for anyone who may know or can explain it...

Can he effect the way that physical attacks hit him? Using time manip to in a way steal momentum from the attack, and making it weaker?  Or would that be more for the Flashes and the Speed Force? 

No, he can only control how strong his punches hit. Wally West can take the kinetic force from things and people, and I think Jay can but not as well. 
#47 Posted by Bucketz (823 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Rune Thor auto-blocks and can destroy the planet.


 Rune Thor wins effortlessly. 
#48 Posted by LordMaverick (4389 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio

RKT FTW EASY..................................
#49 Posted by supermandefender (1963 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio
@Sgtcrispy:  Two different characters dont matter...his power source is the same. He gets his speed from the negative speed force. If he was pushed into the positive force to replace the negative force he is running on he will lose all his speed. This is period. Plus Speed force is just another forum of enegry that powers all speedsters.....Certain characters can just absorb the force itself. Characters like Prime, Superman, Captain Atom....could absorb the force in its entire. Specially Atom because even if it killed him he would just be brought back.

@Susanoo
It goes like this Sound barrier > Light barrier > Time barrier > Dimensions barrier > Speed force barrier.  Technically Zoom should always lose to Speed force but he is using a negative Speed force to cancel out the positive.


I forgot who it was but someonebody said they were looking for all the lucifer comics. I recently downloaded every issue....if someone is looking for anything let me know.
#50 Edited by Jezer (2652 posts) - 2 years, 26 days ago - Show Bio


Rune King Thor wins. Generally, most people argue that Zoom can win based on the fact that

1. He hits harder than Superman.

2. He's fast enough to hit a person a million times before they have time to think. In fact, he has to slow himself down to be close to human speed. Everyone is slow motion to him.

 

 

However, Rune King Thor has displayed autoblocking.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/th15.jpg

This scan shows Mangog punching RKThor - who is holding Mangog's head with one hand and has his other hand dangling by his side.

There's a blue aura around Mangog's punches, which suggests that RKThor's power is autoblocking his attacks.

 

Thus, point 1 is negated since Thor's shield shows the durability to withstand punches from Mangog - who is generally stronger than Thor. Mangog himself has enough strength to lift the MIdgard Serpent.

Furthermore, point 2 is negated because the auto-shielding seems to suggest that Thor himself doesn't need to think for it to protect him - therefore it doesn't matter how fast Zoom is.

 

On top of all this, Thor in this form has displayed omniscience.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/th6.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/th7.jpg

 

As the scan says, he can literally see all. This suggests that, no matter how fast Zoom is, Rune King Thor would be able to percieve him. After all, he wouldn't be able to see all if he couldn't also see tachyons and other particles in the universe that move faster than light.

More so, since he can also see the future, he can predict every move of Zoom. Which means he could hit theoretically hit him with an attack by knowing where he'd be.

 

Even supposing that failed, he displayed the ability to teleport other people from a distance. He teleported Beta Ray Bill.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/07Thor.jpg

Meaning, he could always simply teleport Zoom's heart/brain/ect. out of his body, in order to kill him despite how fast he can move.

 

Conclusion: Rune King Thor wins.

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