Both are at peak forms with all resources available,no prep and bloodlusted.
Who wins,
let it begin
Zoom vs Doctor Strange
@batmanfanboy: Why you laying bait for Zoom fans....Strange Stomps...While sleeping...and I mean that literally
At Doctor Strange's peak he'd have automatic shields up that Zoom couldn't break. Zoom would sit there for eons beating on the shield to no avail until Strange finally pulls some Classic banishment nonsense that he's capable of.
Pretty much this; Peak Strange is Silver/Bronze Age, he's on another level; but I think that was the point.
@batmanfanboy: Well, if it wasn't, then alright.....
Not saying you're all wrong, but how exactly does strange win? Want to know more..
Edit: Don't show me the LT scan..
Not saying you're all wrong, but how exactly does strange win? Want to know more..
Edit: Don't show me the LT scan..
It's mostly he has had shields that take blows from the likes of the in-bewteener, galactus, a brief stalemate of IG Warlock, other such things. There's no possible way Zoom can beat Strange's shields and if Strange is as his peak, then he clearly has shields up (strange with shields > strange without shields).
Not saying you're all wrong, but how exactly does strange win? Want to know more..
Edit: Don't show me the LT scan..
It's mostly he has had shields that take blows from the likes of the in-bewteener, galactus, a brief stalemate of IG Warlock, other such things. There's no possible way Zoom can beat Strange's shields and if Strange it as his peak, then he clearly has shields up (strange with shields > strange without shields).
couldn't he.. phase through them or something? (Just wondering)
Not saying you're all wrong, but how exactly does strange win? Want to know more..
Edit: Don't show me the LT scan..
It's mostly he has had shields that take blows from the likes of the in-bewteener, galactus, a brief stalemate of IG Warlock, other such things. There's no possible way Zoom can beat Strange's shields and if Strange it as his peak, then he clearly has shields up (strange with shields > strange without shields).
couldn't he.. phase through them or something? (Just wondering)
Zoom can't phase.
@comicstooge: Zoom can kind of phase, but it's by abusing time travel and it's really obtuse. Essentially, he shifts himself forward in time until the object is not there anymore, moves in front of it, then shifts himself back. But if zoom just disappeared to time travel in the future then that gives Doctor Strange as long as he wants to sit there, figure out who his opponent is through clairvoyance, figure out what he's doing,and counter it, and Doctor Strange can manipulate time with the best of them, so Hunter's particular brand of "phasing" would be very, very bad against Doctor Strange.
@comicstooge: Zoom can kind of phase, but it's by abusing time travel and it's really obtuse. Essentially, he shifts himself forward in time until the object is not there anymore, moves in front of it, then shifts himself back. But if zoom just disappeared to time travel in the future then that gives Doctor Strange as long as he wants to sit there, figure out who his opponent is through clairvoyance, figure out what he's doing,and counter it, and Doctor Strange can manipulate time with the best of them, so Hunter's particular brand of "phasing" would be very, very bad against Doctor Strange.
Huh. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
I understand that Zoom couldn't get through Strange's shields....but how is Strange going to hit Zoom? He's way too fast, it's not like he can just blast him with a spell.
Jmarshmallow
At Doctor Strange's peak he'd have automatic shields up that Zoom couldn't break. Zoom would sit there for eons beating on the shield to no avail until Strange finally pulls some Classic banishment nonsense that he's capable of.
How can he not break them?
@deathandgrim: Because they stand up to high tier cosmic entities and Zoom has nowhere near that level of firepower.
@dredeuced: I'm not following. Did they all use rapid fire against these shields? Because 1000 IMPs isn't easy to tank. especially in a picosecond
@dredeuced: I'm not following. Did they all use rapid fire against these shields? Because 1000 IMPs isn't easy to tank. especially in a picosecond
Rapid fire doesn't really equate to nearly-infinite cosmic power the likes of which Doctor Strange tended to guard against. Infinite mass punch is nice and all but 1000 Superman level punches would be less than a yawn from Galactus or Inbetweener, if you catch me.
@batmanfanboy: you should've just made a gen discussion thread to avoid accusation, zoom gets stomped here :P
@thanofleeze: its not happening. im a huge zoom fan, but i know when to take a loss
As I understand, Zoom doesn't have the same powers as Flash, he just slows down time to make him faster. Idk much about Zoom though I just saw some people saying that a lot.
Phase.... through magic? Woah....
Flash could probably do it. It's called phasing through matter mate. Zoom could possibly do it via time travel like what's his name said it earlier.By all logic the shield would have to be something like a hard like construct which Flash could phase through casually if he really wanted to.But that's just based on what I know. I could be wrong about Zoom's powers.
As I understand, Zoom doesn't have the same powers as Flash, he just slows down time to make him faster. Idk much about Zoom though I just saw some people saying that a lot.
Phase.... through magic? Woah....
Flash could probably do it. It's called phasing through matter mate. Zoom could possibly do it via time travel like what's his name said it earlier.By all logic the shield would have to be something like a hard like construct which Flash could phase through casually if he really wanted to.But that's just based on what I know. I could be wrong about Zoom's powers.
It's magic, buddy. It's not about physical constructs like what the Lanterns produce. The idea of magic is that it defies logic, otherwise it would just be science.
As I understand, Zoom doesn't have the same powers as Flash, he just slows down time to make him faster. Idk much about Zoom though I just saw some people saying that a lot.
Phase.... through magic? Woah....
Flash could probably do it. It's called phasing through matter mate. Zoom could possibly do it via time travel like what's his name said it earlier.By all logic the shield would have to be something like a hard like construct which Flash could phase through casually if he really wanted to.But that's just based on what I know. I could be wrong about Zoom's powers.
It's magic, buddy. It's not about physical constructs like what the Lanterns produce. The idea of magic is that it defies logic, otherwise it would just be science.
Yeah but for it to be solid it has to be in a form of matter..
@elmohump: It's not solid. It's like vampires when they can't enter your house until you invite them. They just can't, it's not like there's an invisible wall or anything.
In case you wanted scans. The speed force actually allows for some degree of molecular manipulation. Zoom also isn't technically using speed, so he can't vibrate quickly, he can only move exceedingly quickly.
@dratini1331: Thanks.
@jmarshmallow: Strange is a magic users, he doesn't have to hit Zoom with anything. He can cast a spell with Zooms name in it. All magic is not blast based or something tangible enough to evade without mystcal protections.
Zoom only wishes he had the time controlling abilities like classic Strange. Zoom is a Flash or Superman level villain despite what his fans may think. I mean, how long are we going to pit Zoom against people he has no chance against like Classic Strange or Odin? Get real.
This wouldn't be very effective. He literally had to set this up after a long period of time and lots of concentration. This is, frankly, low end for Classic Strange. Zoom is like this, all the time, with no effort expended. He actually has to consciously slow himself down rather than sit and cast a spell to freeze time for himself.
At Doctor Strange's peak he'd have automatic shields up that Zoom couldn't break. Zoom would sit there for eons beating on the shield to no avail until Strange finally pulls some Classic banishment nonsense that he's capable of.
@baltoro: tell that to the OP who made this intentionally
@princearagorn1: God read about Classic Strange....he was ridiculous once the writers released how stupid it was to have such an incredibly over powered character and how difficult story telling was. They massively down-powered him. And when I say he could beat Zoom in his sleep...I'm 100% not joking...at all.
At Zoom's peak Strange would be a statue for what's basically forever and if he can't break through the shields then it'll be a stalemate because the fight would never end.
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