" Infinite Mass Punch would knock Cyborg Superman into another Galaxy "
I thought Zooms powers work differently... He doesn't have the speed force to correct the physic laws for him. I remember one time he told the reverse kid flash not to run quickly because if they ran into a wall they will splat and die, while a flash wouldn't have that problem and just simply run through the wall. So I don't think Zoom is capable of IMP from my knowledge. "
That's more because Zoom can't control his own molecules like the Flash, so he can't phase through materials. "
I actually meant the flash wouldn't vibrate through if he didn't vibrate in time he would actually break through the wall and not die because the speed force corrects the impulse moment that would occur to him where is a Zoom type character would die.
I'm not trying to state that as a fact, I just don't understand the flash and zoom power sets because they aren't always consistent.
"Zoom doesn't have an IMP. He just hits harder than Superman, which is good enough to beat down Henshaw."
Wrong.
Fanboy + battle thread = Thread lock. "
very true "
Why quote one of my bullsh!t posts from over a year ago? I hope you realize that at that time, I was just trolling because I did not know any better. Not only that, but I was just plain wrong.
This one needs location,but i assume it's taking place on Earth since that's the only way he'll encounter Zoom.I say Henshaw wins cause it only takes a few seconds tops for him to regenerate,He'll get his ass kicked a few times at first but will wisen up and eventually beat Zoom.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions).
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
Anticipate someone who can move infinitely faster? "
Umm he can hide in a nearby mechanical thing while allow his body to take the brunt of Zoom's damage,he'll keep doing it till he turns the area in to his personal comfort zone and push Zoom in to a corner.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
Anticipate someone who can move infinitely faster? "
Umm he can hide in a nearby mechanical thing while allow his body to take the brunt of Zoom's damage,he'll keep doing it till he turns the area in to his personal comfort zone and push Zoom in to a corner. "
Zoom could literally stand in front of Henshaw for what seems like hours before he could even process the thought of Zoom being in front of him. Zoom isn't getting cornered.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
Anticipate someone who can move infinitely faster? "
Umm he can hide in a nearby mechanical thing while allow his body to take the brunt of Zoom's damage,he'll keep doing it till he turns the area in to his personal comfort zone and push Zoom in to a corner. "
Zoom could literally stand in front of Henshaw for what seems like hours before he could even process the thought of Zoom being in front of him. Zoom isn't getting cornered. "
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech. "
Zoom can punch harder than Superman, and he once casually punched an Amazon 200 times in less than a second with a single arm just to taunt Wonder Woman. He could break out. In addition, if Henshaw did decide to do this, whatever movement on the part of nearby machinery, metal, or structural materials is performed would be moving in slow motion to Zoom. If the Cyborg utilized a tacitc of transforming buildings into a dome, Zoom could escape before it was fully realized.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech. "
Zoom can punch harder than Superman, and he once casually punched an Amazon 200 times in less than a second with a single arm just to taunt Wonder Woman. He could break out. In addition, if Henshaw did decide to do this, whatever movement on the part of nearby machinery, metal, or structural materials is performed would be moving in slow motion to Zoom. If the Cyborg utilized a tacitc of transforming buildings into a dome, Zoom could escape before it was fully realized. "
I know Zoom will destroy his body a million times but after the millionth time i think Henshaw will switch gear and go for something else,he can easily take over every nuclear device on the planet and detonate it simultaneously.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech. "
Zoom can punch harder than Superman, and he once casually punched an Amazon 200 times in less than a second with a single arm just to taunt Wonder Woman. He could break out. In addition, if Henshaw did decide to do this, whatever movement on the part of nearby machinery, metal, or structural materials is performed would be moving in slow motion to Zoom. If the Cyborg utilized a tacitc of transforming buildings into a dome, Zoom could escape before it was fully realized. "
I know Zoom will destroy his body a million times but after the millionth time i think Henshaw will switch gear and go for something else,he can easily take over every nuclear device on the planet and detonate it simultaneously.
"
Well, you have a point about the range at which Henshaw can influence technology according to his inclination, and Zoom's capacity to eliminate or in some way incapacitate Cyborg's consciousness seems to be inadequate. Conceivably, Hank could combat Zoom on a trial-and-error method, projecting his essence into a new form again and again, until he attempts something that Zoom simply could not escape from.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech. "
Zoom can punch harder than Superman, and he once casually punched an Amazon 200 times in less than a second with a single arm just to taunt Wonder Woman. He could break out. In addition, if Henshaw did decide to do this, whatever movement on the part of nearby machinery, metal, or structural materials is performed would be moving in slow motion to Zoom. If the Cyborg utilized a tacitc of transforming buildings into a dome, Zoom could escape before it was fully realized. "
I know Zoom will destroy his body a million times but after the millionth time i think Henshaw will switch gear and go for something else,he can easily take over every nuclear device on the planet and detonate it simultaneously.
"
Well, you have a point about the range at which Henshaw can influence technology according to his inclination, and Zoom's capacity to eliminate or in some way incapacitate Cyborg's consciousness seems to be inadequate. Conceivably, Hank could combat Zoom on a trial-and-error method, projecting his essence into a new form again and again, until he attempts something that Zoom simply could not escape from. "
Yes this is what i was thinking about,the best way to fight Hank is to take him to deep space and Zoom unfortunately can't do that.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech. "
Zoom can punch harder than Superman, and he once casually punched an Amazon 200 times in less than a second with a single arm just to taunt Wonder Woman. He could break out. In addition, if Henshaw did decide to do this, whatever movement on the part of nearby machinery, metal, or structural materials is performed would be moving in slow motion to Zoom. If the Cyborg utilized a tacitc of transforming buildings into a dome, Zoom could escape before it was fully realized. "
I know Zoom will destroy his body a million times but after the millionth time i think Henshaw will switch gear and go for something else,he can easily take over every nuclear device on the planet and detonate it simultaneously.
"
Well, you have a point about the range at which Henshaw can influence technology according to his inclination, and Zoom's capacity to eliminate or in some way incapacitate Cyborg's consciousness seems to be inadequate. Conceivably, Hank could combat Zoom on a trial-and-error method, projecting his essence into a new form again and again, until he attempts something that Zoom simply could not escape from. "
Yes this is what i was thinking about,the best way to fight Hank is to take him to deep space and Zoom unfortunately can't do that. "
That is a possibility. Although, on the other hand, while it is incredibly difficult, Cyborg Superman can be rendered unconscious. If Zoom just struck at him unflinchingly without destroying his body altogether, he may be able to knock him out.
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech. "
Zoom can punch harder than Superman, and he once casually punched an Amazon 200 times in less than a second with a single arm just to taunt Wonder Woman. He could break out. In addition, if Henshaw did decide to do this, whatever movement on the part of nearby machinery, metal, or structural materials is performed would be moving in slow motion to Zoom. If the Cyborg utilized a tacitc of transforming buildings into a dome, Zoom could escape before it was fully realized. "
I know Zoom will destroy his body a million times but after the millionth time i think Henshaw will switch gear and go for something else,he can easily take over every nuclear device on the planet and detonate it simultaneously.
"
Well, you have a point about the range at which Henshaw can influence technology according to his inclination, and Zoom's capacity to eliminate or in some way incapacitate Cyborg's consciousness seems to be inadequate. Conceivably, Hank could combat Zoom on a trial-and-error method, projecting his essence into a new form again and again, until he attempts something that Zoom simply could not escape from. "
Yes this is what i was thinking about,the best way to fight Hank is to take him to deep space and Zoom unfortunately can't do that. "
That is a possibility. Although, on the other hand, while it is incredibly difficult, Cyborg Superman can be rendered unconscious. If Zoom just struck at him unflinchingly without destroying his body altogether, he may be able to knock him out. "
"Anyone want to explain how Henshaw is supposed to even see Zoom? "
If the fight is taking place on Earth then he'll eventually land a hit,you know he'll keep remaking himself and anticipate Zoom. "
How though? Unless he can create a body for himself that can outpace Flash with speed absorbed from two other speedsters, he would never notice him before having his body decimated again (and this is being generous since Flash in that fight had difficulty following Zoom's motions). "
Who say's he has to make a body at that same place,he can make one a few yards away,or inside some shop.He can also manipulate clay/dirt etc. "
Alright, but postulating that Henshaw will simply form a body for himself in a nearby shop, Zoom could search through a city for him in less than a picosecond for all it matters. He could also just create shockwaves to destroy the building or the whole city.
As well, since Henshaw is a known supervillain, Zoom will not be restricting his own powers in this fight.
"
What if he turns the entire city in to a dome?and as reign of Doomsday showed he constantly keeps making himself unless he's completly separated from tech. "
Zoom can punch harder than Superman, and he once casually punched an Amazon 200 times in less than a second with a single arm just to taunt Wonder Woman. He could break out. In addition, if Henshaw did decide to do this, whatever movement on the part of nearby machinery, metal, or structural materials is performed would be moving in slow motion to Zoom. If the Cyborg utilized a tacitc of transforming buildings into a dome, Zoom could escape before it was fully realized. "
I know Zoom will destroy his body a million times but after the millionth time i think Henshaw will switch gear and go for something else,he can easily take over every nuclear device on the planet and detonate it simultaneously.
"
Well, you have a point about the range at which Henshaw can influence technology according to his inclination, and Zoom's capacity to eliminate or in some way incapacitate Cyborg's consciousness seems to be inadequate. Conceivably, Hank could combat Zoom on a trial-and-error method, projecting his essence into a new form again and again, until he attempts something that Zoom simply could not escape from. "
Yes this is what i was thinking about,the best way to fight Hank is to take him to deep space and Zoom unfortunately can't do that. "
That is a possibility. Although, on the other hand, while it is incredibly difficult, Cyborg Superman can be rendered unconscious. If Zoom just struck at him unflinchingly without destroying his body altogether, he may be able to knock him out. "
Is Zoom smart/knowledgeble enough to do so?
I guess one could say it's a stalemate.
"
Zoom has personal records of heroes and villains. Not sure if Cyborg Superman is in them though.
@entropy_aegis:Poor Conner didn't even get a few good hits in. His reaction to Doomsday using an enhanced version of his power basically came down to "WTF?"
" @entropy_aegis:Poor Conner didn't even get a few good hits in. His reaction to Doomsday using an enhanced version of his power basically came down to "WTF?" "
LOL,i'm actually glad.Henshaw it seems has the best outing of the bunch.I wonder what happened to Eradicator.
@entropy_aegis: Can't really see the point of a storyarc where 4-5 consecutive issues have a predetermined outcome, but anyway. At least Robinson gave us a fight for the ages.
Why Henshaw never grabbed Boodika's lantern or used his genetic lock attack completly baffles me. Still it was an epic fight and from what i hear of the performances of the other guys it seems Hank did the best.I'll just assume Henshaw forgot like Darkseid,Flash,Orion etc.
" Why Henshaw never grabbed Boodika's lantern or used his genetic lock attack completly baffles me. Still it was an epic fight and from what i hear of the performances of the other guys it seems Hank did the best.I'll just assume Henshaw forgot like Darkseid,Flash,Orion etc. "
" Why Henshaw never grabbed Boodika's lantern or used his genetic lock attack completly baffles me. Still it was an epic fight and from what i hear of the performances of the other guys it seems Hank did the best.I'll just assume Henshaw forgot like Darkseid,Flash,Orion etc. "
CIS aura>>>Everyone except Superman. "
True,and it becomes difficult to explain that to the Doomsday fans.
" Why Henshaw never grabbed Boodika's lantern or used his genetic lock attack completly baffles me. Still it was an epic fight and from what i hear of the performances of the other guys it seems Hank did the best.I'll just assume Henshaw forgot like Darkseid,Flash,Orion etc. "
CIS aura>>>Everyone except Superman. "
True,and it becomes difficult to explain that to the Doomsday fans. "
And to the Superman fans.
I like Doomsday, but his fights rarely make sense.
" Why Henshaw never grabbed Boodika's lantern or used his genetic lock attack completly baffles me. Still it was an epic fight and from what i hear of the performances of the other guys it seems Hank did the best.I'll just assume Henshaw forgot like Darkseid,Flash,Orion etc. "
CIS aura>>>Everyone except Superman. "
True,and it becomes difficult to explain that to the Doomsday fans. "
And to the Superman fans.
I like Doomsday, but his fights rarely make sense.
" Why Henshaw never grabbed Boodika's lantern or used his genetic lock attack completly baffles me. Still it was an epic fight and from what i hear of the performances of the other guys it seems Hank did the best.I'll just assume Henshaw forgot like Darkseid,Flash,Orion etc. "
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