Zombies vs Resistance Tourney

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#1 Edited by Fetts (3156 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Yes I took "Resistance" from the Terminator movies. Deal.

Okay. The zombie virus has spread throughout Manhattan. S.H.I.E.L.D. has managed to keep the virus in Manhattan but the only cures out there are in Manhattan in various S.H.I.E.L.D. laboratories. There will be four teams consisting of four superheroes(or villains) each that S.H.I.E.L.D. will send in. The zombies also have four teams consisting of four superheroes (or villains) each that have been infected.

Resistance's Objective: Fight through the zombie super team to retrieve the cures.

Zombie's Team: Eat Resistance teams.

There may be 8-16 people who can enter this tourney. If there are more than 8 people in this tourney, somebody might be asked to remove 2 characters of their choosing to make room for another 2 characters of somebody else's choosing. If there are more people who want to be on one team more than people who want to be on the other team, some people will have to be transferred to the other team. But for now, you may choose which team you'd like to be on. If there is one team consisting of two debaters vs one team consisting of one debater in a round, one debater will be asked not to debate in the team with two debaters in that round. If there are more Resistance teams than Zombie teams by Round 2, one Resistance team will be asked to become zombies and vice versa.

Rules:

-You may only use street levelers. They can be from any universe.

-Morals off for both teams.

-Street levelers only.

-No Midnighter or Prometheus.

-Nobody with physical agility/speed superior to Spider-Man's.

-Nobody with strength/durability superior to Luke Cage's.

-Nobody with energy manipulation superior to Cyclops'.

-Nobody with a healing factor superior to Deadpool's.

-Nobody with TP or any type of other mind trickery. If you really wish, you may use telepaths and the like for other abilities and/or telepathy for communication.

-Nobody with TK.

-No magic users.

-Nobody with flight.

-No precognition.

-Teleporters may be allowed but there will be no tele-dismembering.

-Characters with pheromones will be allowed so long as they don't use their pheromones.

-No anime characters.

-For characters who uses weapons regularly or who master a certain weapon, they may give a custom arsenal to that character so long as it fits the rules.

-Unlimited ammo for guns but characters will have to reload.

-No weapons that could solo.

-I get the final say in who can go.

-If you are asked to give information or feats of a certain character or object that I lack knowledge on, you must do so. If I deem the character acceptable and you fail to mention anything of great significance of that character, not only will you lose that character but you will not be alowed to replace him.

-If one character is bitten, the zombie effects will not immediately take into effect and they will remain in Team Resistance.

-Other zombies will not help the zombie super teams.

-Characters from their universes will know only the abilities of characters from their universe. For example, Captain America would know Bullseye's abilities but wouldn't know Darth Maul's abilities.

NOTE: If you are on Team Zombie, your characters will be a little harder to kill. But they will lose a lot of intelligence. For example, if you have Deathstroke, he still has his physical stats. But he is not nearly as intelligent.

I will use my team as an example of what your post should look like.

Team Resistance

Boba Fett (EU)

Equipment:

Fett's classic blaster rifle (No disintegrations...... literally)

Blaster pistols

Flamethrower

Jetpack w/ missile (Will only be allowed to use the missile on it. No flight)

Concussion rocket launchers

Dart launcher

Concussion grenade launcher

Wrist blaster

Heat resistant Mandoalorian armor

Wrist cord

Thermal detonators

Sniper blaster

Retractable vibro-blades

Helmet w/ a gas filter and lots of vision modes

Mandalorian Duraplast Armor (capable of taking a missile fyi)

Snake-Eyes

Equipment:

Katana

Combat knife

Ballistic Knife

Dual Uzis

5 frag grenades

2 flash grenades

Captain America

Equipment:

Shield

M9 Pistol

2 frag grenades

Nightcrawler

2 sabers

Please try to follow the rules. If there is some rule that I should add onto the OP, please inform me. If there is somebody with a character that I should not have deemed acceptable, please inform me. If you have any questions or complaints, feel free to express them.

Good luck.

Team Resistance:

Team Alpha: Fetts and progenitor (Boba Fett, Snake-Eyes, Albert Wesker, Sabretooth-Adamantium bones)

Team Omega: Fresh Prince/ThexX (The Killer, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Broll Bearmantle, Bucky Barnes, Ultimate Hawkeye, Punisher, and Grifter)--NOTE: Fresh Prince and ThexX each have to take out two characters from their team.

Team Delta: livinghorror (Beast Boy-no changing into creatures with flight, no changing into creatures taller than 15 feet, Cyclops, Deadpool, Nightwing)

Team Zeta: Sherlock (AoA Blink, Skyward Sword Link-still pending, Greed, Teresa)

Team Zombies:

Team Zombie 1: Jedi Waffles/nickzambuto (Kayvaan Strike-no armor or jump pack, Darth Maul-No TK abilities, Spider-Man-No Spider-Sense, Gorgon-no stone stare, Leon S. Kennedy, and Punisher-pending on ThexX's choice of two characters)--NOTE: Jedi Waffles has to take out two characters from his team.

Team Zombie 2: nickthedevil (Scarlet Spider, Batman, Deathstroke, Green Goblin)

Team Zombie 3: DedManWalkin (Yellow Jacket, Mr. Negative, Vanisher, Headpool)

Team Zombie 4: beatboks1 (Shield, Cameron Hicks, Argus, Question-no invisibility)

#2 Posted by Fetts (3156 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

You guys are missing out on a pretty kick ass tourney...................

#3 Edited by Fresh Prince (4916 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Wait, so we are allowed to team-up with a friend on a team on the resistance? I'd like to reserve a slot on any of the resistance teams.

#4 Posted by Sherlock (6797 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio
@Fetts: So any universe is allowed unless its anime?Lameness.Does that rule out Manga as well?Just curious.Also are morals on for this?That also has a huge impact on my team.And one more thing can you get standardized gear like swords and knives and other such things even if your character has no prior feats using said weapon?
 
My Team Subject to change FTR
 
AoA Blink
Quiver of Bolts
Dual Combat Knives (If allowed) 
BTW Blink can teleport items into people without any effort.She was capable of taking Down King Hyperion by porting 10 tons of sand into his body.I wont be making use of this ability but you should add that to the rules since its not technically dismemberment
 
Skyward Sword Link
Master Sword
Hylian Shield
Godess Bow
Bombs
Whip
Clawshot
Water Dragon Scale
Fire Shield Earings
Four Bottles (Am i allowed invulnerability potions?If not ill use fairies)
 
Deathstroke Pre 52 (No PIS)
Blast Staff
Dual Swords (Promethium)
Promethium Armor
G41
 
Gambit(Can i use limited Death powers?)
Bo Staff
Cards
Throwing Knives
#5 Edited by livinghorror (74 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Are there any positive or negative side effects to being infected? Other than the morals thing

#6 Edited by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Zombie team!!

(unless there are any unspecified handicaps, in which case i reserve the right to switch sides)

Kayvaan Shrike

frag and krak grenades (4 apiece), The Raven's Talons, Iron Halo

Darth Maul (pre-metal leg thing)

Dual lightsabers (connectable)

(TK force abilities disabled)

Spiderman

Standard current gear

Gorgon

Godkiller (blade), TP device

EDIT: Replaced Bullseye with Gorgon, removed Shrike's bolt pistol and power armour

#7 Edited by Fresh Prince (4916 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Team Resistance
 
The Killer
-Dual pistols
-2 combat knives
-M16 
-Throwing knives
-HE grenades
 
Mr. X
-Twin katanas
-2 Uzi's
 
T'Challa
-Vibranium suit
-Energy daggers
-Anti-metal claws
 
Broll Bearmantle
-Staff 
-Druid shapeshifting excluding raven form
 
Q: Do Broll's druidic nature powers count as magic? If they do, I'll have him changed.

#8 Edited by livinghorror (74 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Resistance team

Beast Boy

-Not using any forms with flight

*state any form you wish to deem unusable

Cyclops

- Standard gear

Deadpool

-Dual katanas

-Dual Pistols

-Throwing knives

-5X HE grenades

-Teleportation belt

Black Canary

*If the canary cry is deemed unusable I will opt to change her

#9 Edited by Docnick (10451 posts) - 1 year, 11 days ago - Show Bio

@Fetts: hmmm... so i guess i have to go team Zombie....

okay, I got Zombies:

1.Kaine

2.Batman (Bruce Wayne)

  • Batsuit
  • Utility Belt (Standard)

3.Daken

4. Green Goblin (Osborn)

  • Gloves
  • Goblin Glider
  • Asphyxiation gas bombs
  • Pumpkin Bombs (And the compressed tiny capsule ones)
  • Hallucinogen Bombs
  • Mechanical bats/Boomerangs (they are the same thing)
  • Toy frog
  • Glue Bombs
#10 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: I've already got Spiderman listed down on my team.

#11 Posted by Docnick (10451 posts) - 1 year, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Then i got Kaine.

#12 Edited by Fetts (3156 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

I apologize for my absence yesterday. I had a huge track meet and got back pretty late.

Anywho....

@Sherlock: Well, many people here don't watch anime. If you are willing to give me a thorough description of the character and his/her powers I might allow it.

I explained in the OP that morals are on for the resistance and morals are off for zombies.

It depends I guess..... probably a no. What did you have in mind?

Is there any significant difference between Earth 616 Blink and AoA Blink? Just curious. Also you're going to have to give me information on Skyward Sword Link. Deathstroke and Gambit are acceptable.

Also I don't believe you mentioned what team you are going to be on.

@livinghorror: Well. They're harder to kill but I imagine the zombie virus would effect their intelligence. So say you were on Team Zombie and you had Deathstroke. You would still have his physical stats but his intelligence wouldn't be the same. I will put that in the OP.

Beast Boy is good. Might say no to any type of dinosaur or I might put a limit on how big the dinosaur can be. But besides that I think he's fine. Cyclops and Deadpool are good. Yes Canary Cry won't be allowed. It's pretty much instant incapacitation yes? It's the reason why I took out Boba's sonic grenade. But Black Canary is good too.

@JediWaffles: I am willing accept Darth Maul with no TK abilities. But also I believe Darth Maul is faster than Spider-Man so his speed will have to be reduced to Spidey's speed. Spider-Man and Bullseye are okay. I did forget to add the rule of no precognition so you can have Spidey but with no Spidey Sense. I have no idea who Kayvaan Strike is so your going to have to provide detailed information on him.

@Fresh Prince: Sadly, I am not that familiar with Mr. X but he is a telepath correct? Plus from what I can tell from other battle threads, Mr. X is pretty powerful. So yeah I don't think so. I think The Killer is fine. Black Panther is probably fine. Has his vibranium weave suit showed any feats that shows higher durability than Luke Cage's? I have never heard of Broll Bearmantle so you're going to have to provide detailed information.

@nickthedevil: I think Kaine should be fine. Has he any feats that show that he is stronger than Luke Cage? I don't know Grendel. You're going to have to provide information on him. Daken is good but remember that pheromones are not allowed. Green Goblin is also good.

#13 Posted by Fresh Prince (4916 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio
@Fetts: At first, X was a telepath, but it was explained in Thunderbolts that he just locks in to his opponents nervous system and that's how he gets to read attacks. I don't know if that still counts as telepathy? I guess that kinda would count as precog though and you just said any form of it was banned, so I guess I'll have him changed. With regard to the vibranium suit, BP was shown to survive a hit from the Hulk. Basically, it will rob attacks of their momentum but the suit is still vulnerable to slashes and can be torn when cut across the grain. Broll, in the comic, has shown to summon weak bolts of lightning and was able to summon roots to entangle opponents. He's also shown the ability to heal himself and his allies. Here's more on him: http://www.wowpedia.org/Broll_Bearmantle
#14 Posted by Fetts (3156 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@Fresh Prince:

Mhm... I think I'll allow Black Panther so long as you're facing somebody who has slash attacks.

Well... I'm not too sure summoning roots would work too well in the city...

How weak is his bolts? Do you want him for his healing abilities? Just curious. I think I will allow him though. As you said his bolts are weak so I imagine his bolts are inferior to Cyke's optic blasts.

#15 Edited by Fresh Prince (4916 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio
@Fetts: Well, so far everyone has someone in their team that has a weapon that can slash, so I guess he's good to go. Where exactly will the battle take place? As long as there is soil, he should be able to summon his roots of entanglement, which is the main reason why I want him on my team. The healing abilities are just an added bonus that make me want him on my team even more. His bolt was able to send foes around him flying and crack the ground around him, but the orcs that took the attack didn't get knocked out by the bolt.
 
I'll also replace Mr. X with Iron fist. Is that okay?
#16 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@Fetts: Basically, Kayvaan is a genetically enhanced human. Think Captain America, but physically enhanced to be a perfect human fighting machine. Strength level should be a bit under Luke Cage. For more info: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Kayvaan_Shrike

Also, doesn't Kaine have better agility/speed than Spiderman along with his own spideysense?

#17 Posted by Docnick (10451 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@Fetts: Grendel is just a peak Human. and his standard gear is a mask with sensors in it, and a pitchfork that can surge the blades with electricity, and shoot out.

@JediWaffles said:

Also, doesn't Kaine have better agility/speed than Spiderman along with his own spideysense?

I don't remember Kaine having a Spider-sense.

and

#18 Posted by Fresh Prince (4916 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio
@nickthedevil said:

@JediWaffles said:

Also, doesn't Kaine have better agility/speed than Spiderman along with his own spideysense?

I don't remember Kaine having a Spider-sense.

He used to have it, but not anymore.
#19 Posted by Docnick (10451 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@Fresh Prince said:

@nickthedevil said:

@JediWaffles said:

Also, doesn't Kaine have better agility/speed than Spiderman along with his own spideysense?

I don't remember Kaine having a Spider-sense.

He used to have it, but not anymore.

i remember it that way too.

#20 Posted by Sherlock (6797 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio
@Fetts said:

@Sherlock: Well, many people here don't watch anime. If you are willing to give me a thorough description of the character and his/her powers I might allow it.

I explained in the OP that morals are on for the resistance and morals are off for zombies.

It depends I guess..... probably a no. What did you have in mind?

Is there any significant difference between Earth 616 Blink and AoA Blink? Just curious. Also you're going to have to give me information on Skyward Sword Link. Deathstroke and Gambit are acceptable.

Also I don't believe you mentioned what team you are going to be on.


I was just curious more than anything about manga.I have several people i might run by you though
Must have missed that though it seems kind of silly going easy on Zombies but that just my opinion
Poison Powers (Explosions are nice but poison explosion are much better) as well as a lack of morals if i was required to have them
Powerwise no.Though AoA Blink has more showings and combat ability (She grew up in the age of apocolypse i mean cmon)She also ran with the exilies for quite a while.
Link has no special powers that all comes from his gear. 
Master Sword /Has the power to vanquish evil a break curses and combat dark magic.Basically its dark magic pwn machine.It also has the ability to fire energy bolts at enemies
Hylian Shield /In this game it was stated to be indestructible
Godess Bow/No special properties for the arrows but the bow is magic giving it great range and power
Bombs/Very basic bombs
Whip/Hos no magical properties.Link is skilled with using to grab things such as weapons from opponents
Clawshot/A self proppeled grappling hook (That a well as i can put it)He has two of them so he can use one while hanging from the other
Water Dragon Scale/Allows for bursts of speed under water
Fire Shield Earings/Gives him resistance to fire and heat
Four Bottles fairies will revive him him he is killed.invulnerabiity potion is just that.
Link is a master of sword and shield combat and has great agility and speed
 
I didnt add a team because i personally dont mind which one but ill say resistance for now
 
Again i may edit this when i have more time
#21 Posted by DedmanWalkin (2598 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

My name should tell you what team I would like.

As for the members:

Ray Palmer - The Atom - Just His Belt

Martin Li - Mr. Negative - Katana

Telford Porter - Vanisher - Unarmed

Wade Wilson - Headpool - Unarmed

#22 Edited by livinghorror (74 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

Im going to replace Black Canary with Nightwing

Nightwing

- Standard gear basically Nightwing Suit, Nightwing Gauntlets (Smoke pellets, Knockout gas bombs, Stun gun), and Nightwing Boots

- "Wing Dings" Modified Batarangs

- Escrima Sticks

#23 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@DedmanWalkin said:

My name should tell you what team I would like.

As for the members:

Ray Palmer - The Atom - Just His Belt

Martin Li - Mr. Negative - Katana

Telford Porter - Vanisher - Unarmed

Wade Wilson - Headpool - Unarmed

Was "headpool" a typo? If so, Wade's already been taken.

#24 Posted by livinghorror (74 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

He might be referring to the zombified head of deadpool?

#25 Edited by emperorznb (1673 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

Can I still join? I'd like to be in the zombies team.

  1. Gravel (Equipment: 2 hand guns)
  2. Zealot (Equipment: katana, creation blades)
  3. Magik (Equipment: Soulsword)
  4. Fantomex (Equpment: handguns, sniper rifle, ceramic armor, frag granades, rpg)
#26 Posted by Fresh Prince (4916 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio
@JediWaffles said:

@DedmanWalkin said:

My name should tell you what team I would like.

As for the members:

Ray Palmer - The Atom - Just His Belt

Martin Li - Mr. Negative - Katana

Telford Porter - Vanisher - Unarmed

Wade Wilson - Headpool - Unarmed

Was "headpool" a typo? If so, Wade's already been taken.

Headpool's a zombified head of Deadpool from the zombie universe.
#27 Posted by livinghorror (74 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@emperorznb: I think Panther has been taken

#28 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@livinghorror said:

@emperorznb: I think Panther has been taken

replaced it.

#29 Edited by Strider92 (11177 posts) - 1 year, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@JediWaffles said:

@Fetts: Basically, Kayvaan is a genetically enhanced human. Think Captain America, but physically enhanced to be a perfect human fighting machine. Strength level should be a bit under Luke Cage. For more info: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Kayvaan_Shrike

Also, doesn't Kaine have better agility/speed than Spiderman along with his own spideysense?

As a Space Marine shrike is roughly a 6-8tonner. Your'll need to take away his jump pack as it gives him flight. Tbh you may have found the only loop-hole in this thread lol.

All the enhancements Space Marines have are insane(I won't list them all because its very very long lol) throw in their tech: Armor that can tank lascannon rounds (if you're lucky), gun's that literally fire small missiles instead of bullets, lighting claws that can cut through basically anything (as they use force fields to distort matter), speed that made him a blur to members of his own squad, a healing factor on par with Wolverines and almost 200 years of combat experience behind him. The guy went in with something like 100 men and slaughtered half an ork horde. Thats something like 10 vs 1 odds.

I'm pretty sure Kayvaan could kill mostly everyone here on his own as no-one has the damage output required to penetrate ceramite armour.

#30 Posted by DedmanWalkin (2598 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

Headpool was not a typo, I need someone with experience being a zombie. He is actually a linchpin in my strategy.

#31 Edited by Fetts (3156 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Fresh Prince: Iron Fist? The guy who punched down a hellicarrier? Sorry but no.

@JediWaffles: Ya but I think Current Kaine doesn't have one. And I think he's only stronger than Spider-Man. I don't think he has superior speed and agility. And I'm going to take Strider's word and say no to Kayvaan. You'll have to replace him.

@nickthedevil: I already accepted Grendel.

@Sherlock: Well...I do see your point but you'd think that, for example, Captain America would hold back from killing Zombie Spider-Man. He'd probably try to knock him out or something. Just trying to be realistic. Or should I just screw that?

What is the nature of his poison powers? Does his poison release into the air and kill everybody instantly or something of the like? Is his fire energy bolts stronger than Cyclops' optic blasts? How "basic" are his bombs? As in what is the blast radius of one of his bombs? And does four bottles heal him once or does one bottle heal him once? And how instantly is he revived?

@DedmanWalkin: The Atom is a no. Mr. Negative, Vanisher, and Headpool are all fine.

@livinghorror: That's fine.

@emperorznb: Gravel and Magik are not acceptable. You will have to replace them. I think I'll allow Zealot. It states in her character bio that she rarely uses magic though. She won't be able to use it at all in this tourney. Fantomex is allowed but his misdirect abilities are not.

#32 Posted by Yai_Inn (352 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

This probably isn't going to pass but what the hell... you never said no probability manipulators...  
1. Domino  
2. Longshot  
3. Iron-Fist  
4. Black Tarantula 

#33 Posted by DedmanWalkin (2598 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

I'll sub in the Wasp.

#34 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

Interesting.

#35 Posted by Fetts (3156 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Yai_Inn: Yes but the rules also state that I have the final say :).

Domino I think I will accept. She's been beaten and stalemated by people like Deadpool so I don't think her luck powers are that powerful. Longshot...... I do know his powers but I don't know exactly much luck his powers grant him. Do you have feats or scans? As I told Fresh Prince Iron Fist is not allowed. I think I'll allow Black Tarantula.

You have yet to tell me what team you are going to be on.

@DedmanWalkin: I'm also going to say no to Wasp.

#36 Posted by Strider92 (11177 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Fetts: Don't go completely by me here's a few links explaining exactly what they are. Bare in mind these are just your average Marine not someone like Kayvaan who has had a LOT more experience in battle.

Creation and implants: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Creation_of_a_Space_Marine#.T6r6X-sthmE

Daily routine: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Daily_rituals_of_a_Space_Marine#.T6r6oOsthmE

Power armor: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_armor#.T6r60usthmE

Lightning Claws: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lightning_claws#.T6r6-esthmE

#37 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Fetts: Oh sorry... I think I'll resign... have classes on the next two days.

#38 Posted by Sherlock (6797 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio
@Fetts said:

@Sherlock: Well...I do see your point but you'd think that, for example, Captain America would hold back from killing Zombie Spider-Man. He'd probably try to knock him out or something. Just trying to be realistic. Or should I just screw that?

What is the nature of his poison powers? Does his poison release into the air and kill everybody instantly or something of the like? Is his fire energy bolts stronger than Cyclops' optic blasts? How "basic" are his bombs? As in what is the blast radius of one of his bombs? And does four bottles heal him once or does one bottle heal him once? And how instantly is he revived?


My only concern currently is Link.He has morals but if its really just for people you now then he shouldnt have a problem since i dont see anyone using another Skyward Sword character.I can fix Gambit by giving him Death powers even if that jsut means no morals and Blink as well by making her David Richards version(Same character and powers but was mind controlled into doing some not so nice things)Honestly its up to you whether you want that or not though it would be a good way to even it up if the zombie team loses most of their intelligence.
Gambits poison works along the same lines as his kinetic charging though he can change the air in the area into toxic substances.Not that that would be a wininng strategy since none of my team can breath poison lol
No Link cant fire blast as strong as cyclops can not even close.Im currently having trouble finding a video though
His bombs look like the kind you would see in loony toons.Round blue with a wick on the top.I would say they have a maybe 5 foot blast radius and can destroy large stones and walls made of stone
 
LOL you are killing dedman BTW its hilarious
 
Also as an added note you said you wanted us to tell you if someone was breaking rules or was too powerful yes?Well Black Tarantula is a 25 tonner.Thats quite a but stronger than spiderman
#39 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@JediWaffles said:

@Fetts: Basically, Kayvaan is a genetically enhanced human. Think Captain America, but physically enhanced to be a perfect human fighting machine. Strength level should be a bit under Luke Cage. For more info: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Kayvaan_Shrike

Also, doesn't Kaine have better agility/speed than Spiderman along with his own spideysense?

As a Space Marine shrike is roughly a 6-8tonner. Your'll need to take away his jump pack as it gives him flight. Tbh you may have found the only loop-hole in this thread lol.

All the enhancements Space Marines have are insane(I won't list them all because its very very long lol) throw in their tech: Armor that can tank lascannon rounds (if you're lucky), gun's that literally fire small missiles instead of bullets, lighting claws that can cut through basically anything (as they use force fields to distort matter), speed that made him a blur to members of his own squad, a healing factor on par with Wolverines and almost 200 years of combat experience behind him. The guy went in with something like 100 men and slaughtered half an ork horde. Thats something like 10 vs 1 odds.

I'm pretty sure Kayvaan could kill mostly everyone here on his own as no-one has the damage output required to penetrate ceramite armour.

Aww you just had to go and ruin everything. :( Haha, i was counting on not many people being knowledgable in the Warhammer universe.

@Fetts: Yeah, i'll replace him with Gorgon. That okay? I'll edit my first post.

#40 Edited by DedmanWalkin (2598 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

Hank Pym - Yellow Jacket - No Flight, No Growth

Would Hank be acceptable?

Whatever do you mean, Sherlock? Am I being funny or Fetts?

#41 Edited by Fresh Prince (4916 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Fetts: I was planning to use IF, but without his Chi since it has pretty much limitless potential, but not anymore. Would Karnak be fine?

@DedmanWalkin: I'm pretty sure I have an idea of what you're planning and if it is what I'm thinking, I still do not have a counter...

#42 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

Hold up, would you accept Kayvaan without power armour and bolt pistol? That removes away 90% of his durability and firepower. Without the physical enhancements his armour provides, he isn't that strong or fast. Plus, no bolt pistol means no range, so he'll have to fight up close and dirty, and ONLY in melee range. If you do accept, i'll replace Bullseye with Gorgon instead. (note: i wont use the stone stare ability of gorgon)

#43 Edited by Strider92 (11177 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@JediWaffles: Haha I played Eldar for 2-3 years I know what happens when you underestimated Space Marines T.T You could still use Kayvaan if you take away his armor and his jump pack. As he'd still ave the healing factor to keep him up and he'd comply by the rules. He'd still slaughter most characters here though lol

#44 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92: I wanna keep the jump pack, but limiting it to just boosting his jumping ability, and not prolonged flight. Shhh you'll spoil everything!! He completely complies with rules, hes strong yes, but if people play smart, he's easily defeated. I don't actually run a Space Marine army though, Chaos ftw haha.

#45 Posted by Strider92 (11177 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@JediWaffles: You should have reached for the stars and gone for Abbadon lol. All his stats comply (apart from his terminator armor) and no-one would have known about his reality warping sword until it was to late!

#46 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92: I was really thinking about it, but where's the fun in that? Hahaha plus i'm sure more people know about Abaddon than Kayvaan.

#47 Posted by Strider92 (11177 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@JediWaffles said:

@Strider92: I was really thinking about it, but where's the fun in that?

Seeing the look on Wolverine's face when a sword is finally able to cut him and his adimantium skeleton in half? That's where the fun would be!

#48 Posted by JediWaffles (715 posts) - 1 year, 8 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@JediWaffles said:

@Strider92: I was really thinking about it, but where's the fun in that?

Seeing the look on Wolverine's face when a sword is finally able to cut him and his adimantium skeleton in half? That's where the fun would be!

Hmm you do make an excellent point... Haha

#49 Edited by Fetts (3156 posts) - 1 year, 7 days ago - Show Bio
@Sherlock said: 

@Fetts said: 


@Sherlock: Well...I do see your point but you'd think that, for example, Captain America would hold back from killing Zombie Spider-Man. He'd probably try to knock him out or something. Just trying to be realistic. Or should I just screw that?

What is the nature of his poison powers? Does his poison release into the air and kill everybody instantly or something of the like? Is his fire energy bolts stronger than Cyclops' optic blasts? How "basic" are his bombs? As in what is the blast radius of one of his bombs? And does four bottles heal him once or does one bottle heal him once? And how instantly is he revived?


My only concern currently is Link.He has morals but if its really just for people you now then he shouldnt have a problem since i dont see anyone using another Skyward Sword character.I can fix Gambit by giving him Death powers even if that jsut means no morals and Blink as well by making her David Richards version(Same character and powers but was mind controlled into doing some not so nice things)Honestly its up to you whether you want that or not though it would be a good way to even it up if the zombie team loses most of their intelligence. Gambits poison works along the same lines as his kinetic charging though he can change the air in the area into toxic substances.Not that that would be a wininng strategy since none of my team can breath poison lol No Link cant fire blast as strong as cyclops can not even close.Im currently having trouble finding a video thoughHis bombs look like the kind you would see in loony toons.Round blue with a wick on the top.I would say they have a maybe 5 foot blast radius and can destroy large stones and walls made of stone  LOL you are killing dedman BTW its hilarious  Also as an added note you said you wanted us to tell you if someone was breaking rules or was too powerful yes?Well Black Tarantula is a 25 tonner.Thats quite a but stronger than spiderman  
I think I will turn it to morals off. It's hard enough to kill zombies as is. 
 
IIRC, I believe Gambit's Death powers blow people up on sight correct? If that is so then Gambit's Death powers would be unacceptable. Everything else you said is cool except that you didn't answer my questions about the bottles. 
 
The rules states that nobody can have a character who has strength superior to Luke Cage's. Not Spider-Man's :).  
 
@DedmanWalkin: Wait can Hank summon insects as Yellow Jacket? I don't think he can but I want to double check. And without flight or growth.... what exactly can he do?  
 
@Fresh Prince: I will allow Iron Fist without his Chi. 
 
@JediWaffles@Strider92: So.... list to me what Kayvaan can do without his armor and jump pack... because I am clueless to what you guys are talking about....  
 
@JediWaffles: I will allow Gorgon without his stone stare.
#50 Edited by Strider92 (11177 posts) - 1 year, 7 days ago - Show Bio

@Fetts: I'll sum it up as briefly as possible this what they can do without their armor:

-7-8 tonner (with power armor they are alot stronger as the cybernetics enhance their muscles forgot that in my last post)

-Healing factor roughly on par with Wolverines. As the Laramans Organ creates specially bio-engineered cells that instantly scar up any wound the Space Marine takes.

-Lighting Claws that use focefields to tear molecules apart thus let them cut through almost anything (this is unique to Kayvaan though as most basic Marines don't use these weapons)

-Super human speed (in the Emperors Mercy a Space Marine was running at 60mph without breaking a sweat to catch a vehicle and in the Space Wolves novel there are many instances of bullet timing)

-They're metabolism has been increased using biological enhancements. In one of the Grey Knight books one Space Marine commented that he was able to follow a snipers bullet with his eyesight. I can't think of anything to gauge their agility with but they're hands are seen as a blur in H2H by normal humans.

Thanks to the all their other biological enhancements they can:

-Go for 2weeks without drinking, eating or needing to sleep,

-increased bone and muscle growth making them 8-9ft tall

-multiple lungs that enable them to breath in absolutely any climate and filter out all impurities from poisons to pheromones

-their ears have implants to prevent them getting motion sickness during Space travel, deep strike etc.. this has also been known to negate sonic attacks

-enhanced sense that can enable a Marine to tell exactly what a compound is made up of simply by taste or smell (they are also able to track their enemies this way. Kinda like Wolverine)

-their skin can secrete a sweat-like substance that coats their skin giving them immunity to intense heat, cold and radiation

-they can supposedly spit acid as well due to the Betcher's Gland but i've never read any books or anything in codex's where this has been used so i'm not sure how true this is

Training:

They train 20 hours a day in every weapon the chapter has a available (ranging from H2H, guns and multiple stabbing weapons) every single day from the day of their creation until the day they die. I can't recall a Space Marine ever dying from old age. They're supposed to be immortal due to their implants unless taken down in battle.

Silas of the Dark Angels chapter supposedly holds the record for the oldest Space Marine being 567 years old. Training 20 hours a day for 567 years with every weapon your chapter has? Thats gotta make you bada$$ lol.

Kayvaan is significantly younger than him though, being roughly 150-200 years of age. Most Marines don't make it anywhere near that due to the fact they are constantly at war.

As you can see they pretty much set the standard for elite fighting forces lol. That's why there aren't that many of them as one Space Marine is worth 10 of the enemy. They where a b***h to play against I can tell you that!

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