@isaac_clarke: You have QS doing something that he has never done
Except every time he did in Age of Ultron?
Zods a Kryptonian he has superspeed, this is an in movie fact,
you don't need to be explained or shown every little detail, never mind they went from space to Earth within seconds,
No, it cut to space. They aren't shown doing anything like that on film.
travel speed sure but QS has trouble with bullets
Not really, no.
This makes no sense, your exact plan is for QS to rush Scarlet Witch forward, these aren't related, he would charge first and break his arm. Again your planning oit strategy's based on what you know, not what they know.
And apparently you're Lukundra's alternate account.
Didn't happen, the reaction was stated to disentagrate the rock,
Minus the dozen or so shock-waves that tear apart the entire city and push Thor through the air.
Thors durability is low mid tier. This is going to be one of those many instances of people attributing abilities they don't have, they've established a fall from a high height would kill him, that was the writers intent, not what you read into it.
So Thor at the end of the movie was dead after getting hit by that explosive force that tore apart the city and falling to the ground?
Talk about non-existent plot-twists.
People will assume Vision can just outphase any physical attack, a very specific ability that he has never shown yet the same people try to say Kryptonians don't have superspeed.
On durability people have tried to pass off hitting the ground as low durability when it was being swung from one Kryptonian into the fist of another.
I'm not people.
Wanda still solos.
And unsurprisingly TifaLobo goes straight to flame-bait. Color me shocked; he was trolling all along.
@isaac_clarke: Well, you have to remember that Vision is not here. Op doesn't have him on the Avengers roster. Second, yeah, she could replicate it, but seeing as Quicksilver is still alive during this fight, wouldn't that mean she hasn't had the rage/sadness push to achieve it?
Read the battle-forum rules.
Regardless, we can't really know how it would affect a kryptonian miles above an Ultron lackey,or if it actually atomizes things or not etc. The main problem here is as you mentioned, SW's TP. Now, I don't completely understand how it works. Against all of the Avengers, she had to sneak up and put her hand near their head to mind stomp them, and later on in the city, she was convincing families to run away during the climax from a good distance away.
She was invoking their fears - or in Thor's case giving him a prophecy. For the people in town, all she had to do was have them march out of their homes - not drum up their worst fears. Not to mention she's hardly used her powers (she's been caged since WS). As Olsen said herself, Scarlet Witch doesn't even know what she can do at this point.
The only explanation I can come up with is that the Avengers minds/willpower were greater than than normal humans so she had to get closer for her powers to work effectively. If this is not true, then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for her to get anywhere near the Avengers (and risk getting and arrow to the head) to put the whammy on them.
They don't. The Scepter compelled them to fight one another in Avengers; Scarlet Witch's powers are derived from same object - the Mind-Gem. The only person it had a strange effect on was Thor - mainly because it gave him a vision of the future (prompting him to be possessed by the Norns later to investigate it).
Therefore, I think it's reasonable to assume that she will have to get close to the enraged monster flying around at super speed throwing her teammates around for her powers to affect him.
Zod isn't the Avengers. Kryptonians were completely susceptible to mind-invading technology on Zod's ship.
This isn't going to be an easy task for someone with the speed/reaction/durability of a normal human being.
Zod has normal human reaction times / combat speed; flying really fast to zig-zag around a few buildings one-time doesn't suddenly make him a speedster.
You've mentioned that Quicksilver could potentially put her close to him, and said that Zod couldn't touch him. I'd have to disagree on this strategy. For one, this isn't their usual MO in a big fight. I'd see QS and the other Avengers trying to attack Zod head on first and foremost, and while Zod may have trouble catching Pietro,
QS regularly runs in to rescue his sister from harm throughout AoU. It is COMPLETELY in character for him to watch her back / help her.
Pietro will seriously injure himself when he tries to hit Zod at super speed like he usually does.
Nope.
SW's TP may in fact take down Zod, but I really don't see her getting close enough to use it in a big fight. Next, I really don't see Hulk's strength as being on par with Superman's at any point, but the important thing is, his durability is way too low (the Hulk Buster or Veronica suit fight scene in particular shows this).
Two things:
Zod, according to your logic may not be faster than QS, but he is still quite faster that Hulk. I can see him getting lots of hits in, and knowing Zod, go for a fatality before Hulk can properly react.
Post a single clip from MOS where Zod displays an inkling of super-speed in combat.
Finally Thor. I don't really see a lot of strength/durability feats that put Thor very high above Hulk, Mjolnir gives him a distinct advantage over Hulk, but looking at his movies (his hammer was simply knocked aside by the cursed Dark Elf in The Dark World)
Kurse isn't the Hulk.
I don't see any lasting advantage over Zod.
Besides Zod having ZERO feats on Thor?
We've seen Zod take a lot more punishment than Thor has and keep going like it was nothing.
I've got a city in Eastern Europe to tell you about from AoU.
And finally that "city busting" feat is very misleading, Thor at no point destroyed a city, working together with Ironman, he overloaded a machine until it exploded,
Nope, not even close to what happened.
and THAT destroyed the city. Not sure what else there is to really say. This says the Avengers vs Zod, but it is only Hulk, Thor and to a much much lesser degree, Ironman vs Zod. Everyone else is either useless or has techniques that take too long to set up. The three mentioned have bad durability and are quite slow compared to Zod. Don't really see how the Avengers can win.
That's because you're trolling. Which is seemingly the only thing MOS threads are good for - attracting bad trolls.
I wonder if Quicksilver's speed is greater than Zod's? He manages to catch a bullet in the movie (he's also hit by them), but Man of Steel's Kryptonians were scary fast. Faora blitzes three soldiers while they're shooting at her, and it's reasonable to assume Zod has similar speed if not greater given he is specified to have acclimated to Earth's atmosphere in the OP.
All these soldiers being blitzed could still hit her with their guns. She's still moving at sub-sonic speeds and she's the only one that displays this speed in the film.
Starts with:
Now he just has to pummel the immensely depowered Thor and Hulk into pulp, catch or shoot Quicksilver and give Cap a good punt.
@crushyourenemies: ok just a question this is Zod brought back to life right? otherwise Avengers by default LOL
also Zod gets his head snapped by Hulk or crushed by Thor. technically like this
I wonder if Quicksilver's speed is greater than Zod's? He manages to catch a bullet in the movie (he's also hit by them), but Man of Steel's Kryptonians were scary fast. Faora blitzes three soldiers while they're shooting at her, and it's reasonable to assume Zod has similar speed if not greater given he is specified to have acclimated to Earth's atmosphere in the OP.
Superman was faster than Suoer Zod, Faora was faster than Superman, quicksilver was way faster than them and mjiolnirg had a similar speed.
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