Zeus(Marvel) vs Ares (DC)
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Zeus (Marvel)
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Ares (DC)
Location: Mt.Olympus (Marvel)
Rules:
Winner by Death/KO
No BFR
No Outside Assitance
DC's Greek god of death and conflict enters Olympus , and dispatches most of the threats and many other gods as he arrives. Zeus arrives to put a stop to the strange new upstart claiming to be Ares
Who wins?
DC Gods are generally more 'Godly' than Marvel Gods.
Ares, might take this but Zeus is a beast on par with Odin. Does Ares have the same destructive capabilities as Zeus and Odin?
does zeus? i mean ive seen some of zeus feats but there not as good as odins but thats probalby because ive only seen them outside of the classic age so they dont seem as good. But zeus and odin even if equal dont have the same powers so what destrucive capabilities has zeus shown.
" without godwave zeus wins this fight "Hm, are you sure about that? Wasn't Ares a match for Highfather?
" @mrtrickster said:From what I've heard, since they were fighting inside of the same body and were in the source, it evened out any power difference that might have been there otherwise Izaya would probably have beaten him." without godwave zeus wins this fight "Hm, are you sure about that? Wasn't Ares a match for Highfather?
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" DC Gods are generally more 'Godly' than Marvel Gods. Ares, might take this but Zeus is a beast on par with Odin. Does Ares have the same destructive capabilities as Zeus and Odin? "Destructive capability alone doesn't determine the winner of a battle.
Oh never saw this thread before.
Going with Ares, despite the fact that Marvel keeps claiming, from various character that Odin = Zeus, despite the latter having absolutely no feats to match those of Odin.
Ares has better feats, to me that should give him the victory.
@buttersdaman000: I don't think he really ahs any feats to put him on level with Odin, except the (incredibly vague) argument in the Infinite Embassy
Oh never saw this thread before.
Going with Ares, despite the fact that Marvel keeps claiming, from various character that Odin = Zeus, despite the latter having absolutely no feats to match those of Odin.
Ares has better feats, to me that should give him the victory.
And those feats of Ares are?
Oh never saw this thread before.
Going with Ares, despite the fact that Marvel keeps claiming, from various character that Odin = Zeus, despite the latter having absolutely no feats to match those of Odin.
Ares has better feats, to me that should give him the victory.
Well if Marvel writers keep saying that, than should it not be true? It's not like it's been said once but numerous amounts of times. So that should hold significant value. Feats don't mean everything.
Had there been nothing to contradict that then i suppose it would be true, but there is. Thor held his own against Zeus for a whole month. We have Avengers holding their own against Zeus as well. Or how he needed Thor's help to stop Loki from taking over Olympus (thats beyond classic era though, its from Venus series in 1939), struggling to beat Zuras, pwned by a no named titan with a spear.
There is a lot to contradict that, and equality likely is based on them being head of their own pantheon.
Few among the top of myhead:
1. Stomping Wonder Woman
2. Killing Highfather
3. Beat Hades and taking over Hell
I underestimated Ares then. Need a respect thread with him. Was completely confused when they put him in Injustice.
Well if Marvel writers keep saying that, than should it not be true? It's not like it's been said once but numerous amounts of times. So that should hold significant value. Feats don't mean everything.
Had there been nothing to contradict that then i suppose it would be true, but there is. Thor held his own against Zeus for a whole month. We have Avengers holding their own against Zeus as well. Or how he needed Thor's help to stop Loki from taking over Olympus (thats beyond classic era though, its from Venus series in 1939), struggling to beat Zuras, pwned by a no named titan with a spear.
There is a lot to contradict that, and equality likely is based on them being head of their own pantheon.
And those feats of Ares are?
Few among the top of myhead:
1. Stomping Wonder Woman
2. Killing Highfather
3. Beat Hades and taking over Hell
Those feats are not that great lol.
As compared to Odin, not really, as compared to Zeus its better than feats he has performed.
What could you show me from Zeus thats better than Ares killing Highfathers or Ares killing Hades in Hell and taking over hell?
Well if Marvel writers keep saying that, than should it not be true? It's not like it's been said once but numerous amounts of times. So that should hold significant value. Feats don't mean everything.
Had there been nothing to contradict that then i suppose it would be true, but there is. Thor held his own against Zeus for a whole month. We have Avengers holding their own against Zeus as well. Or how he needed Thor's help to stop Loki from taking over Olympus (thats beyond classic era though, its from Venus series in 1939), struggling to beat Zuras, pwned by a no named titan with a spear.
There is a lot to contradict that, and equality likely is based on them being head of their own pantheon.
And those feats of Ares are?
Few among the top of myhead:
1. Stomping Wonder Woman
2. Killing Highfather
3. Beat Hades and taking over Hell
I guess.
Ares
Depends on the era.
N52 era Ares didn't do much. However the Olympians all seem drastically weaker. Must be because of no God Wave existing here.
Post C era Ares had more showings and was generally a threat when he felt like it. However his power wasn't the same as
Pre C era Ares. Which was the definitive era of the god wave from which all immortals "gods" were derived, and all secondary species and natural powers came from. This guy himself, no amp, was a reality warper.
If i'm not mistaken Zues beat WWH Hulk in a freaking fist fight. Not just beat, but completely curb stomped him. Take that and the fact that he is claimed by Marvel themselves that he was equal in power with Odin. Him fighting Thor for a month isn't a “bad feat”. Thor is Mighty, but no, not Skyfather level but Zues was holding back in that fight, which is why Thor lasted so long.
If i'm not mistaken Zues beat WWH Hulk in a freaking fist fight. Not just beat, but completely curb stomped him. Take that and the fact that he is claimed by Marvel themselves that he was equal in power with Odin. Him fighting Thor for a month isn't a “bad feat”. Thor is Mighty, but no, not Skyfather level but Zues was holding back in that fight, which is why Thor lasted so long.
That wasn't World Breaker Hulk or World War Hulk...
Does Ares have some feats I'm not aware about? I can't just imagine him on Zeus' level.
Ares is above Marvel's Zeus....beisdes being a God of War and Death,he's a reality warper
@matchesmalone21: All well and good, but how does that place him above Zeus?
Hmmm quite a few of you are saying Ares but if Zues is said to be equal to Odin, he should be able to deliver 1 galaxy busting attack to his face and be done with it...
Statements mean nothing. When statements can be matched-up with scans, then they become something. As it stands, evidence is key when making claims. Zeus has little to say he can hang with Odin, or even Ares, for that matter. One thing you need to know about Ares, is that he has this cool little power that allows him to absorb the essences that create War, Fighting, Hatred, etc., which enhances him further. So, the longer Zeus combats him, the stronger/more powerful Ares is.
@king_majestros: But wasn't Zues said to be Odin's equal by Marvel themselves?
@king_majestros: But wasn't Zues said to be Odin's equal by Marvel themselves?
Well, like I said... statements mean nothing without evidence. Simply in a panel doesn't necessarily make it so. Had we seen Zeus battle Odin and they stalemated, that's a different story. So no... Zeus is not Odin's equal.
@king_majestros: We can't put our words above the writers. If they say Zues is Odin's equal then he's his equal.
@king_majestros: We can't put our words above the writers. If they say Zues is Odin's equal then he's his equal.
Yes we can, especially when they invoke PIS (Plot-Induced Stupidity) and WIS (Writer-Induced Stupidity) in their work, which contradicts what has previously been established. And no, Zeus is NOT Odin's equal as there is no evidence to support that claim. Once again, statements don't equate to facts. It's imperative for you to understand and accept this concept.
@king_majestros: I understand the PIS and WIS thing. But in this case it has nothing to do with that. The writers said Zues is Odin's equal. We cannot ignore statements in times like this.
@flakeking: Yes we can. Zeus doesn't have the feats.
@king_majestros: I understand the PIS and WIS thing. But in this case it has nothing to do with that. The writers said Zues is Odin's equal. We cannot ignore statements in times like this.
Unfortunately for you, that is not how things work on ComicVine. You're wrong. We do not take statements as inherently factual because statements change from writer to writer. We do not take statements as fact as they are not accompanied by scans that prove said statement to be true. As it stands, Zeus is not equal Odin in any way, shape or form, because evidence is lacking. Now, it's apparent that what I'm saying is going over your head and you're deliberately ignoring it due to reason of bias, or you're trolling, and that's okay.
@king_majestros: The writers said he is equal to Odin. I'm not going to try and convince you other wise, you're free to believe what you want lol. But Zues is equal to Odin.
@king_majestros: The writers said he is equal to Odin. I'm not going to try and convince you other wise, you're free to believe what you want lol. But Zues is equal to Odin.
I've realized you're trolling. Good job.
@king_majestros: Thanks bro:)
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