Zeus
Vs
Loki, Dr Doom, Ronan, Silver Surfer
1 day of prep for both Zeus and the team
Battle is on Asgard
Win by any means
Who wins and why
Zeus
Vs
Loki, Dr Doom, Ronan, Silver Surfer
1 day of prep for both Zeus and the team
Battle is on Asgard
Win by any means
Who wins and why
@uugieboogie And they teleport back.
@uugieboogie And they teleport back.
Besides SS I don't see any of them surviving in the core of the sun
@uugieboogie: mabye Roban.
@uugieboogie: Zeus has never fought battles via BFR. He used it once on Pluto, and that was back to his realm of Hades.
@shootingnova: He used BFR on Hercules & Thor more than once . So there's nothing that says he couldn't BFR them . The only ones that could really come back is Loki & SS . If he drops them off in the sun only person I see coming back is SS .
@uugieboogie: Since when has Zeus BFRed somebody into the sun in the middle of a fight?
Zeus lacks feat to suggest he could take on the team.
On one side we have Classic Thor matching Zeus, to then having Odin and Zeus fighting with them both shaking the world.
To also having him handling characters like Photon's using all her power at once.
He one-shotted the most powerful Dark Elf.
He unleashed a blast, that left Thor smarting.
But by feats, Silver Surfer would be a good match alone IMO; however theoretically, Zeus should be near Odin level.
Marvel really De-powered the Greek Gods, in comparison to the Norse Gods.
I'd still give the team the edge due to prep, but a natural encounter might be more in Zeus's favor. Shaking entire worlds just by being angry seems to be a considerably better feat than anybody else here could manage.
I'd still give the team the edge due to prep, but a natural encounter might be more in Zeus's favor. Shaking entire worlds just by being angry seems to be a considerably better feat than anybody else here could manage.
Zeus also gets prep so i don't think the team could out prep Zeus since he could amp himself to insane levels or call forth every Greek god into battle with him as hes said to be Odin's equal as both are grouped together in Thanos infinity revelations.If this was with no prep Zeus would one shot all of them.
@hellionvulcan: Yeah. Interesting. Zeus is standing in the same tier as Odin and Galactus (and Kronos, I believe, but I don't know much about him).
@uugieboogie: Since when has Zeus BFRed somebody into the sun in the middle of a fight?
There's nothing to say he couldn't. Once again he BFR'd Herc & Thor plenty of times, even while they were fighting each other.
@uugieboogie: I don't recall him BFRing people into extremities like that, and that doesn't sound like his morals when he fights.
@uugieboogie: I don't recall him BFRing people into extremities like that, and that doesn't sound like his morals when he fights.
What morals? He cheated in his fight against Hulk, used magic to cut his healing factor & then chained him to a boulder to let birds eat his insides. What morals do Zeus have?
@uugieboogie: Zeus has morals that dictate that he must personally humiliate his foes. He has never just BFRed his opponents into extremities like the sun and let them kill his opponents in a fight. The way Zeus's mindset operates makes it so that he wants to personally beat down on his opponents. And especially once Zeus gets angry, any chance of BFR is more or less lost beneath Zeus's energy blasts and physical blows.
@uugieboogie: Zeus has morals that dictate that he must personally humiliate his foes. He has never just BFRed his opponents into extremities like the sun and let them kill his opponents in a fight. The way Zeus's mindset operates makes it so that he wants to personally beat down on his opponents. And especially once Zeus gets angry, any chance of BFR is more or less lost beneath Zeus's energy blasts and physical blows.
OP doesn't even say morals are on & when did you become Zeus's shrink? Did you get that al from his fight with Hulk? Classic Zeus got bored with ppl easily in the past. Sent Herc away when he got annoyed with him & chained up the avengers I believe back in the day. So once again, Zeus has shown he can TP ppl, so there's nothing say why he can't TP this team
@uugieboogie: If the OP doesn't specify, then it's morals on.
This is Current Zeus, not Classic, and there was a time in Classic when Zeus got bloodlusted and all his thoughts were on beating the Avengers up, not BFRing them, and you still haven't shown me why he would BFR people into the Sun of all places.
@uugieboogie: I don't recall him BFRing people into extremities like that, and that doesn't sound like his morals when he fights.
What morals? He cheated in his fight against Hulk, used magic to cut his healing factor & then chained him to a boulder to let birds eat his insides. What morals do Zeus have?
How was that cheating?
If anything, that made the battle fair since Hulk couldn't instaheal after every blow.
@shootingnova: This is apparently, whichever Zeus you want actually. :P Cause the OP didn't specify, I'ma go with Myth Zeus. XD
@solar_powered: Zeus agreed to fight the Hulk in H2H only. He technically did, but he also used some magic.
@shootingnova: Yes, but for the most part, he beat him into submission, like he promissed. He even had the hulk puking with a shot to the abdomen. I think it's suffice to say that he was trying to prove to the Hulk that without his healing factor, he's not very powerful.
@uugieboogie: I don't recall him BFRing people into extremities like that, and that doesn't sound like his morals when he fights.
What morals? He cheated in his fight against Hulk, used magic to cut his healing factor & then chained him to a boulder to let birds eat his insides. What morals do Zeus have?
How was that cheating?
If anything, that made the battle fair since Hulk couldn't instaheal after every blow.
because he told Hulk it would be a physical H2H battle. He clipped Hulk HF & used other abilities, lmao thats not cheating?
@uugieboogie: I don't recall him BFRing people into extremities like that, and that doesn't sound like his morals when he fights.
What morals? He cheated in his fight against Hulk, used magic to cut his healing factor & then chained him to a boulder to let birds eat his insides. What morals do Zeus have?
How was that cheating?
If anything, that made the battle fair since Hulk couldn't instaheal after every blow.
because he told Hulk it would be a physical H2H battle. He clipped Hulk HF & used other abilities, lmao thats not cheating?
Clipping the Hulk's healing factor isn't cheating. It makes the battle fair. Also, what "other abilities" did he use?
@uugieboogie: I don't recall him BFRing people into extremities like that, and that doesn't sound like his morals when he fights.
What morals? He cheated in his fight against Hulk, used magic to cut his healing factor & then chained him to a boulder to let birds eat his insides. What morals do Zeus have?
How was that cheating?
If anything, that made the battle fair since Hulk couldn't instaheal after every blow.
because he told Hulk it would be a physical H2H battle. He clipped Hulk HF & used other abilities, lmao thats not cheating?
Clipping the Hulk's healing factor isn't cheating. It makes the battle fair. Also, what "other abilities" did he use?
How the hell does that make the battle fair? Zeus is a skyfather level being with vast magical capabilities. Taking Hulk's HF doesn't make it even at all. & Zeus shot Hulk with lightning, thats cheating too, lol.
@uugieboogie: I'm not sure if you have a hard time seeing, but that lightning missed the hulk, intentionally.
Also, Zeus doesn't have an instant regeneration healing factor, so it does indeed make the battle fair. It all comes down to strength and durability, and obviously Zeus is physically superior to the Hulk, he was just proving it by removing the healing factor.
@uugieboogie: Would you mind not quoting me every time in your responses to Solar_Powered?
Dr Doom and Silver Surfer solo
Zeus doesn't have any impressive feat to be called skyfather level
I'd still give the team the edge due to prep, but a natural encounter might be more in Zeus's favor. Shaking entire worlds just by being angry seems to be a considerably better feat than anybody else here could manage.
Destroying them is better
@dondave: Who destroyed planets by being angry?
Zeus suffers from severe underdevelopment regarding feats, but he has at least shook worlds by just being angry, but a myriad of sources heavily imply him to be of Odin's class. Clearly, Odin is more powerful, but Zeus should at least be in Odin's class. For instance, the fact that so many characters have drawn parallels from Zeus to Odin, and I believe sourcebooks have as well (by assessing them to be peers), as well as the fact that in the scan of the cosmic hierarchy above, Zeus was standing on Odin's (and Galactus/Stranger/Kronos) tier, should indicate a similar level of power. Therefore, I think it should stand to reason that he could beat the team in a natural fight, but of course, with prep, I don't see Zeus winning.
For the record, in a 1940's comic, Zeus did effortlessly nullify Loki's contract with Venus, and Loki was completely powerless.
@shootingnova: I didn't say just by being angry, but actually destroying the planet is infinitely better than making the world shake.
@dondave: Zeus did that just by being angry and by shaking himself (in his rage), though. That's the epitome of effortlessness.
And a myriad of sources have indicated that Zeus is comparable to Odin. Whereas in the past, with Classic Zeus (who just appears inconsistent anyway), we mostly only had lip-service, but with Current Zeus, we also have the fact that Odin chose to argue with him instead of just smiting him down, and the fact that he was depicted as standing on the same tier as Odin.
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