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Which is the strongest character Mythology Zeus can beat, and which is the weakest who can beat Zeus?

Mythological Zeus defeated Cronus (and not Cronos as most people believe. They are actually not the same), his father. He wielded enough power that he could take on his entire pantheon. Mythological zeus is far more powerful then his comic counterpart.

@Crom-Cruach: So could he take on being like Living tribunal or is he around galactus lvl or what?

@hermankeson said:

So could he take on being like Living tribunal or is he around galactus lvl or what?

Theoretically yes because within the context of Greco-Roman mythology, as king of Olympus and an all-around badass pimp he basicall was so powerful that everything he wanted went. He could casually just pick up someone, fling him in the sky to create a new constellation.

Mythology Zeus solo's everybody.

He defeated his father Kronos who was a supreme being in his time and who defeated the personification of the cosmos. He had no limits. And in their battle the cosmos was damaged so atlas lifted it. It is also stated that when Zeus no longer held his power at bay, heat seized Chaos. And Chaos is the first entity in greek mythology, it is the embodiment of the universe before it was created, it is an infinite, and eternal void.

He defeated typhon who was sent by Gaia the creator of all. And typhon was millions of kilometers tall he was going to build a new universe.

He killed 85 gigantes who were sent by Gaia and were literally indestructible on earth since they drew power from their mother Gaia.

Bugs Bunny stomps.

@stonerthps said:

Bugs Bunny stomps.

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@stonerthps said:

Bugs Bunny stomps.

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@stonerthps said:

@kingkronos said:

@stonerthps said:

Bugs Bunny stomps.

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He does it's true.

Yep, he does. And you're not even joking.................right?

@stonerthps said:

@kingkronos said:

@stonerthps said:

Bugs Bunny stomps.

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He does it's true.

Yep, he does. And you're not even joking.................right?

@stonerthps said:

@kingkronos said:

@stonerthps said:

@kingkronos said:

@stonerthps said:

Bugs Bunny stomps.

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He does it's true.

Yep, he does. And you're not even joking.................right?

No joke. He does stomp.

Well what can I say............. very funny.

i would say zeus is above living tribunal since LT isnt the universal ruler TOAA is while in his verse or mythology zeus was the absolute ruler of the universe and no one was above him, no one in his pantheon was even close to him the only ones who can challenge him are the primordial gods like gaia, typhon(horrible god monster that even scared the gods),kronos and other primordials, and also all gods are completely indestructible they can never die only imprisoned like zeus did to the titans and typhon

Wait a minute. If Typhon is modeled after Set then Zues must be modeled after ... Hmmm.

@CozyDaPrynce: how is typhon modeled after set???

No 'normal' character can defeat myth Zeus since he is the primary figure of a real world religion; the only figures that can defeat him or give him a run for his money are primary deities like Huitzilopochtli and cosmic entities such as Galactus,

I really find it hard for someone to defeat Zeus. He has faced many challenges and always prevailed. The accomplishments he made are beyond anything. He defeated a supreme being, his father, and the war damaged the cosmos so that atlas was condemed to hold it. It was stated also in the end of the great war that when Zeus no longer held his might, heat ceized chaos. And chaos is the first entity from which the universe was created. It is an eternal infinite void that is beyond creation and still Zeus affected such an entity.

He defeated typhoeus, a monster sent by Gaia herself, and still defeated him. Typhoeus was such a monster that the gods themselves ran away, even though they swore an oath to protect the heavens no matter the cost. His head had 100 heads consisting of terrible creatures such as dragons and lions,etc.... He had unumbered hands each had 100 serpent hands. He was going to replace Zeus and create a new universe. But still Zeus managed to defeat him.

Zeus also won the gigantanomachy, a war between the olympians and the gigantes which were sent by Gaia herself. They were indestructible on earth since they drew power from their own mother earth Gaia. There were about 100 of those. Zeus killed nealy 85 of them and the olympians and hercules killed the rest.

He uses him weapon the thunderbolt as his most potent weapon. It's fire was eternal, and a normal blaze of it's flames were three times hotter than the sun. The other gods were represented as just ministers of his will. He controlled everything. He flooded the earth 3 times because the mortals were unworthy to be his children and he recreated it 3 times.

So basically Zeus did anything. He was represented as an omnipotent god, who did anything he wants. When he became the supreme being of the universe, he became omnipotent. No one defeated him.

@kingkronos said:

I really find it hard for someone to defeat Zeus. He has faced many challenges and always prevailed. The accomplishments he made are beyond anything. He defeated a supreme being, his father, and the war damaged the cosmos so that atlas was condemed to hold it. It was stated also in the end of the great war that when Zeus no longer held his might, heat ceized chaos. And chaos is the first entity from which the universe was created. It is an eternal infinite void that is beyond creation and still Zeus affected such an entity.

He defeated typhoeus, a monster sent by Gaia herself, and still defeated him. Typhoeus was such a monster that the gods themselves ran away, even though they swore an oath to protect the heavens no matter the cost. His head had 100 heads consisting of terrible creatures such as dragons and lions,etc.... He had unumbered hands each had 100 serpent hands. He was going to replace Zeus and create a new universe. But still Zeus managed to defeat him.

Zeus also won the gigantanomachy, a war between the olympians and the gigantes which were sent by Gaia herself. They were indestructible on earth since they drew power from their own mother earth Gaia. There were about 100 of those. Zeus killed nealy 85 of them and the olympians and hercules killed the rest.

He uses him weapon the thunderbolt as his most potent weapon. It's fire was eternal, and a normal blaze of it's flames were three times hotter than the sun. The other gods were represented as just ministers of his will. He controlled everything. He flooded the earth 3 times because the mortals were unworthy to be his children and he recreated it 3 times.

So basically Zeus did anything. He was represented as an omnipotent god, who did anything he wants. When he became the supreme being of the universe, he became omnipotent. No one defeated him.

Of course he always prevailed, he's the central figure of an old religion...and they always prevail in one way or another; I do agree with you that it's pretty hard to find someone who can defeat him since in his myth he's the most powerful creature ever created. It would be as if someone said "who's better....Buddha or Jesus?", there's no real way to define that.

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

I really find it hard for someone to defeat Zeus. He has faced many challenges and always prevailed. The accomplishments he made are beyond anything. He defeated a supreme being, his father, and the war damaged the cosmos so that atlas was condemed to hold it. It was stated also in the end of the great war that when Zeus no longer held his might, heat ceized chaos. And chaos is the first entity from which the universe was created. It is an eternal infinite void that is beyond creation and still Zeus affected such an entity.

He defeated typhoeus, a monster sent by Gaia herself, and still defeated him. Typhoeus was such a monster that the gods themselves ran away, even though they swore an oath to protect the heavens no matter the cost. His head had 100 heads consisting of terrible creatures such as dragons and lions,etc.... He had unumbered hands each had 100 serpent hands. He was going to replace Zeus and create a new universe. But still Zeus managed to defeat him.

Zeus also won the gigantanomachy, a war between the olympians and the gigantes which were sent by Gaia herself. They were indestructible on earth since they drew power from their own mother earth Gaia. There were about 100 of those. Zeus killed nealy 85 of them and the olympians and hercules killed the rest.

He uses him weapon the thunderbolt as his most potent weapon. It's fire was eternal, and a normal blaze of it's flames were three times hotter than the sun. The other gods were represented as just ministers of his will. He controlled everything. He flooded the earth 3 times because the mortals were unworthy to be his children and he recreated it 3 times.

So basically Zeus did anything. He was represented as an omnipotent god, who did anything he wants. When he became the supreme being of the universe, he became omnipotent. No one defeated him.

Of course he always prevailed, he's the central figure of an old religion...and they always prevail in one way or another; I do agree with you that it's pretty hard to find someone who can defeat him since in his myth he's the most powerful creature ever created. It would be as if someone said "who's better....Buddha or Jesus?", there's no real way to define that.

Not all figures "always" prevail. And I can't really think of anyone who faced such challenges as Zeus. I mean he defeated a supreme being, faced the creator of all creation, affected a deity beyond creation,etc.......

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

I really find it hard for someone to defeat Zeus. He has faced many challenges and always prevailed. The accomplishments he made are beyond anything. He defeated a supreme being, his father, and the war damaged the cosmos so that atlas was condemed to hold it. It was stated also in the end of the great war that when Zeus no longer held his might, heat ceized chaos. And chaos is the first entity from which the universe was created. It is an eternal infinite void that is beyond creation and still Zeus affected such an entity.

He defeated typhoeus, a monster sent by Gaia herself, and still defeated him. Typhoeus was such a monster that the gods themselves ran away, even though they swore an oath to protect the heavens no matter the cost. His head had 100 heads consisting of terrible creatures such as dragons and lions,etc.... He had unumbered hands each had 100 serpent hands. He was going to replace Zeus and create a new universe. But still Zeus managed to defeat him.

Zeus also won the gigantanomachy, a war between the olympians and the gigantes which were sent by Gaia herself. They were indestructible on earth since they drew power from their own mother earth Gaia. There were about 100 of those. Zeus killed nealy 85 of them and the olympians and hercules killed the rest.

He uses him weapon the thunderbolt as his most potent weapon. It's fire was eternal, and a normal blaze of it's flames were three times hotter than the sun. The other gods were represented as just ministers of his will. He controlled everything. He flooded the earth 3 times because the mortals were unworthy to be his children and he recreated it 3 times.

So basically Zeus did anything. He was represented as an omnipotent god, who did anything he wants. When he became the supreme being of the universe, he became omnipotent. No one defeated him.

Of course he always prevailed, he's the central figure of an old religion...and they always prevail in one way or another; I do agree with you that it's pretty hard to find someone who can defeat him since in his myth he's the most powerful creature ever created. It would be as if someone said "who's better....Buddha or Jesus?", there's no real way to define that.

Not all figures "always" prevail. And I can't really think of anyone who faced such challenges as Zeus. I mean he defeated a supreme being, faced the creator of all creation, affected a deity beyond creation,etc.......

The Jade Emperor, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Jesus Christ, Amateratsu, Shiva etc etc are all 'Proto-Deities' along with Zeus. You just happen to favor Greek mythology over all others...which is completely fine, I like aztec mythology mysel. I'm sure it would be the same argument if someone made a battle thread involving YAHWEH vs Allah. Believers or suporters of said religion would argue until the cows came home and neither would be able to prove the other wrong because, again, they are primal deities in their respective religions....or, in the case of being "obsolete" religion...a myth.

But yes, Zeus is a powerhouse and not one to be trifled with.

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

I really find it hard for someone to defeat Zeus. He has faced many challenges and always prevailed. The accomplishments he made are beyond anything. He defeated a supreme being, his father, and the war damaged the cosmos so that atlas was condemed to hold it. It was stated also in the end of the great war that when Zeus no longer held his might, heat ceized chaos. And chaos is the first entity from which the universe was created. It is an eternal infinite void that is beyond creation and still Zeus affected such an entity.

He defeated typhoeus, a monster sent by Gaia herself, and still defeated him. Typhoeus was such a monster that the gods themselves ran away, even though they swore an oath to protect the heavens no matter the cost. His head had 100 heads consisting of terrible creatures such as dragons and lions,etc.... He had unumbered hands each had 100 serpent hands. He was going to replace Zeus and create a new universe. But still Zeus managed to defeat him.

Zeus also won the gigantanomachy, a war between the olympians and the gigantes which were sent by Gaia herself. They were indestructible on earth since they drew power from their own mother earth Gaia. There were about 100 of those. Zeus killed nealy 85 of them and the olympians and hercules killed the rest.

He uses him weapon the thunderbolt as his most potent weapon. It's fire was eternal, and a normal blaze of it's flames were three times hotter than the sun. The other gods were represented as just ministers of his will. He controlled everything. He flooded the earth 3 times because the mortals were unworthy to be his children and he recreated it 3 times.

So basically Zeus did anything. He was represented as an omnipotent god, who did anything he wants. When he became the supreme being of the universe, he became omnipotent. No one defeated him.

Of course he always prevailed, he's the central figure of an old religion...and they always prevail in one way or another; I do agree with you that it's pretty hard to find someone who can defeat him since in his myth he's the most powerful creature ever created. It would be as if someone said "who's better....Buddha or Jesus?", there's no real way to define that.

Not all figures "always" prevail. And I can't really think of anyone who faced such challenges as Zeus. I mean he defeated a supreme being, faced the creator of all creation, affected a deity beyond creation,etc.......

The Jade Emperor, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Jesus Christ, Amateratsu, Shiva etc etc are all 'Proto-Deities' along with Zeus. You just happen to favor Greek mythology over all others...which is completely fine, I like aztec mythology mysel. I'm sure it would be the same argument if someone made a battle thread involving YAHWEH vs Allah. Believers or suporters of said religion would argue until the cows came home and neither would be able to prove the other wrong because, again, they are primal deities in their respective religions....or, in the case of being "obsolete" religion...a myth.

But yes, Zeus is a powerhouse and not one to be trifled with.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. What do you mean by "Proto-Deities"? I think you meant primodial deities. But anyway, Zeus was not a primodial deity, but he challenged them. He defeated Gaia by defeating typhoeus and the gigantes. And in some myths, at the end of his battle with typhon, Gaia manifested, and Zeus defeated her and typhoeus alone. And Gaia is the creator of the universe. He also defeated Kronos, who was more powerful than the primodials in his time. Since he defeated Ouranos (a primodial deity) and Zeus defeated Kronos. Typhoeus was by far the most powerful creature. He was cossidered a god himself. His parents were one of the 4 first deities which are Gaia and Tartarus, an infinite abyss. He even had the power to create a new universe. And Zeus also managed to affect Chaos, the first of the first that preceded time and creation. In some myths, Zeus defeated PHANES, a god of procreation. And the list doesn't end here......

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

I really find it hard for someone to defeat Zeus. He has faced many challenges and always prevailed. The accomplishments he made are beyond anything. He defeated a supreme being, his father, and the war damaged the cosmos so that atlas was condemed to hold it. It was stated also in the end of the great war that when Zeus no longer held his might, heat ceized chaos. And chaos is the first entity from which the universe was created. It is an eternal infinite void that is beyond creation and still Zeus affected such an entity.

He defeated typhoeus, a monster sent by Gaia herself, and still defeated him. Typhoeus was such a monster that the gods themselves ran away, even though they swore an oath to protect the heavens no matter the cost. His head had 100 heads consisting of terrible creatures such as dragons and lions,etc.... He had unumbered hands each had 100 serpent hands. He was going to replace Zeus and create a new universe. But still Zeus managed to defeat him.

Zeus also won the gigantanomachy, a war between the olympians and the gigantes which were sent by Gaia herself. They were indestructible on earth since they drew power from their own mother earth Gaia. There were about 100 of those. Zeus killed nealy 85 of them and the olympians and hercules killed the rest.

He uses him weapon the thunderbolt as his most potent weapon. It's fire was eternal, and a normal blaze of it's flames were three times hotter than the sun. The other gods were represented as just ministers of his will. He controlled everything. He flooded the earth 3 times because the mortals were unworthy to be his children and he recreated it 3 times.

So basically Zeus did anything. He was represented as an omnipotent god, who did anything he wants. When he became the supreme being of the universe, he became omnipotent. No one defeated him.

Of course he always prevailed, he's the central figure of an old religion...and they always prevail in one way or another; I do agree with you that it's pretty hard to find someone who can defeat him since in his myth he's the most powerful creature ever created. It would be as if someone said "who's better....Buddha or Jesus?", there's no real way to define that.

Not all figures "always" prevail. And I can't really think of anyone who faced such challenges as Zeus. I mean he defeated a supreme being, faced the creator of all creation, affected a deity beyond creation,etc.......

The Jade Emperor, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Jesus Christ, Amateratsu, Shiva etc etc are all 'Proto-Deities' along with Zeus. You just happen to favor Greek mythology over all others...which is completely fine, I like aztec mythology mysel. I'm sure it would be the same argument if someone made a battle thread involving YAHWEH vs Allah. Believers or suporters of said religion would argue until the cows came home and neither would be able to prove the other wrong because, again, they are primal deities in their respective religions....or, in the case of being "obsolete" religion...a myth.

But yes, Zeus is a powerhouse and not one to be trifled with.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. What do you mean by "Proto-Deities"? I think you meant primodial deities. But anyway, Zeus was not a primodial deity, but he challenged them. He defeated Gaia by defeating typhoeus and the gigantes. And in some myths, at the end of his battle with typhon, Gaia manifested, and Zeus defeated her and typhoeus alone. And Gaia is the creator of the universe. He also defeated Kronos, who was more powerful than the primodials in his time. Since he defeated Ouranos (a primodial deity) and Zeus defeated Kronos. Typhoeus was by far the most powerful creature. He was cossidered a god himself. His parents were one of the 4 first deities which are Gaia and Tartarus, an infinite abyss. He even had the power to create a new universe. And Zeus also managed to affect Chaos, the first of the first that preceded time and creation. In some myths, Zeus defeated PHANES, a god of procreation. And the list doesn't end here......

oh, nono I don't mean primordial deities I meant...hrm...like the Alpha deities, Zeus is the alpha male of his religion, it doesn't get any bigger or stronger than him in Greek Myth because he is the center of it, that is what I meant.

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@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

@kingkronos said:

I really find it hard for someone to defeat Zeus. He has faced many challenges and always prevailed. The accomplishments he made are beyond anything. He defeated a supreme being, his father, and the war damaged the cosmos so that atlas was condemed to hold it. It was stated also in the end of the great war that when Zeus no longer held his might, heat ceized chaos. And chaos is the first entity from which the universe was created. It is an eternal infinite void that is beyond creation and still Zeus affected such an entity.

He defeated typhoeus, a monster sent by Gaia herself, and still defeated him. Typhoeus was such a monster that the gods themselves ran away, even though they swore an oath to protect the heavens no matter the cost. His head had 100 heads consisting of terrible creatures such as dragons and lions,etc.... He had unumbered hands each had 100 serpent hands. He was going to replace Zeus and create a new universe. But still Zeus managed to defeat him.

Zeus also won the gigantanomachy, a war between the olympians and the gigantes which were sent by Gaia herself. They were indestructible on earth since they drew power from their own mother earth Gaia. There were about 100 of those. Zeus killed nealy 85 of them and the olympians and hercules killed the rest.

He uses him weapon the thunderbolt as his most potent weapon. It's fire was eternal, and a normal blaze of it's flames were three times hotter than the sun. The other gods were represented as just ministers of his will. He controlled everything. He flooded the earth 3 times because the mortals were unworthy to be his children and he recreated it 3 times.

So basically Zeus did anything. He was represented as an omnipotent god, who did anything he wants. When he became the supreme being of the universe, he became omnipotent. No one defeated him.

Of course he always prevailed, he's the central figure of an old religion...and they always prevail in one way or another; I do agree with you that it's pretty hard to find someone who can defeat him since in his myth he's the most powerful creature ever created. It would be as if someone said "who's better....Buddha or Jesus?", there's no real way to define that.

Not all figures "always" prevail. And I can't really think of anyone who faced such challenges as Zeus. I mean he defeated a supreme being, faced the creator of all creation, affected a deity beyond creation,etc.......

The Jade Emperor, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Jesus Christ, Amateratsu, Shiva etc etc are all 'Proto-Deities' along with Zeus. You just happen to favor Greek mythology over all others...which is completely fine, I like aztec mythology mysel. I'm sure it would be the same argument if someone made a battle thread involving YAHWEH vs Allah. Believers or suporters of said religion would argue until the cows came home and neither would be able to prove the other wrong because, again, they are primal deities in their respective religions....or, in the case of being "obsolete" religion...a myth.

But yes, Zeus is a powerhouse and not one to be trifled with.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. What do you mean by "Proto-Deities"? I think you meant primodial deities. But anyway, Zeus was not a primodial deity, but he challenged them. He defeated Gaia by defeating typhoeus and the gigantes. And in some myths, at the end of his battle with typhon, Gaia manifested, and Zeus defeated her and typhoeus alone. And Gaia is the creator of the universe. He also defeated Kronos, who was more powerful than the primodials in his time. Since he defeated Ouranos (a primodial deity) and Zeus defeated Kronos. Typhoeus was by far the most powerful creature. He was cossidered a god himself. His parents were one of the 4 first deities which are Gaia and Tartarus, an infinite abyss. He even had the power to create a new universe. And Zeus also managed to affect Chaos, the first of the first that preceded time and creation. In some myths, Zeus defeated PHANES, a god of procreation. And the list doesn't end here......

oh, nono I don't mean primordial deities I meant...hrm...like the Alpha deities, Zeus is the alpha male of his religion, it doesn't get any bigger or stronger than him in Greek Myth because he is the center of it, that is what I meant.

Ow, I see, you mean he was the most important figure in greek mythology. Yes, he was.

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins.
 
However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

@_Punk_ said:

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins. However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

Actually, then none of them are omnipotent. If two ''omnipotent'' beings fought eachother to a stalemate, it would mean that none of them were omnipotent, as it defies the very meaning of omnipotence.

@hermankeson said:

@_Punk_ said:

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins. However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

Actually, then none of them are omnipotent. If two ''omnipotent'' beings fought eachother to a stalemate, it would mean that none of them were omnipotent, as it defies the very meaning of omnipotence.

It depends on the nature of the characters. An omnipotent in one verse does not equal in another verse. So, the omnipotent character in the weaker verse may not be omnipotent in a more powerful verse.

@hermankeson said:

@_Punk_ said:

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins. However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

Actually, then none of them are omnipotent. If two ''omnipotent'' beings fought eachother to a stalemate, it would mean that none of them were omnipotent, as it defies the very meaning of omnipotence.

None of the old myth gods are omnipotent, hence why most older cultures were polytheist

@kingkronos said:

@hermankeson said:

@_Punk_ said:

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins. However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

Actually, then none of them are omnipotent. If two ''omnipotent'' beings fought eachother to a stalemate, it would mean that none of them were omnipotent, as it defies the very meaning of omnipotence.

It depends on the nature of the characters. An omnipotent in one verse does not equal in another verse. So, the omnipotent character in the weaker verse may not be omnipotent in a more powerful verse.

Could Zeus beat Morgoth?

@Jayfournines said:

@hermankeson said:

@_Punk_ said:

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins. However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

Actually, then none of them are omnipotent. If two ''omnipotent'' beings fought eachother to a stalemate, it would mean that none of them were omnipotent, as it defies the very meaning of omnipotence.

None of the old myth gods are omnipotent, hence why most older cultures were polytheist

Actually Zeus is sometimes considered as an omnipotent in a monotheistic tone:

The first point to be noticed, in regard to his religious views, is the sublime conception of Zeus as the supreme ruler of the universe. The other deities are represented as merely the ministers of his will, and though still possessing their usual characteristics, stand in subordinate rank. The language applied to Zeus is monotheistic in tone, and his praises are chanted in strains of the loftiest exaltation. He is "king of kings, most blessed of the blessed, most mighty of rulers." His power "knows no superior, nor is any one enthroned above him; swifter than speech is the accomplishment of his purpose." He "holds for ever the balance of the scales: nothing comes to mortal man but by the will of Zeus." "Zeus is sky, and earth, and heaven; Zeus is all things, yea, greater than all things." His power, though invisible, is omnipotent and omnipresent. "Dark and shadowy," it is said, "are the pathways of his counsels, and difficult to see. From their high-towering hopes he hurleth down to destruction the race of men. Yet setteth he no forces in array, all his works are effortless. Seated on holiest throne, from thence, unknown to us, he bringeth his will to pass."

http://www.theatredatabase.com/ancient/aeschylus_008.html

@hermankeson said:

@kingkronos said:

@hermankeson said:

@_Punk_ said:

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins. However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

Actually, then none of them are omnipotent. If two ''omnipotent'' beings fought eachother to a stalemate, it would mean that none of them were omnipotent, as it defies the very meaning of omnipotence.

It depends on the nature of the characters. An omnipotent in one verse does not equal in another verse. So, the omnipotent character in the weaker verse may not be omnipotent in a more powerful verse.

Could Zeus beat Morgoth?

I'm sorry to say this, but personally I think that Zeus will lay waste on Morgoth. As much as I love Morgoth and Lotr, but Zeus is high above morgoth. He is the supreme being in greek mythology. Now I don't want to repeat Zeus' feats so read the above posts I posted, and see for yourself.

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

@hermankeson said:

@_Punk_ said:

Zeus is represented as the Skyfather, and by that, means he's omnipotent. It's not possible for a omnipotent being to lose. Even if two omnipotent beings fought against a single omnipotent being, it would always come out as a tie. No one wins. However, I say the "Milk glass/Sandwich" paradox concept would be able to defeat any supposed omnipotent being. In truth, I don't believe there is such a thing as an omnipotent being because of this.

Actually, then none of them are omnipotent. If two ''omnipotent'' beings fought eachother to a stalemate, it would mean that none of them were omnipotent, as it defies the very meaning of omnipotence.

None of the old myth gods are omnipotent, hence why most older cultures were polytheist

Actually Zeus is sometimes considered as an omnipotent in a monotheistic tone:

The first point to be noticed, in regard to his religious views, is the sublime conception of Zeus as the supreme ruler of the universe. The other deities are represented as merely the ministers of his will, and though still possessing their usual characteristics, stand in subordinate rank. The language applied to Zeus is monotheistic in tone, and his praises are chanted in strains of the loftiest exaltation. He is "king of kings, most blessed of the blessed, most mighty of rulers." His power "knows no superior, nor is any one enthroned above him; swifter than speech is the accomplishment of his purpose." He "holds for ever the balance of the scales: nothing comes to mortal man but by the will of Zeus." "Zeus is sky, and earth, and heaven; Zeus is all things, yea, greater than all things." His power, though invisible, is omnipotent and omnipresent. "Dark and shadowy," it is said, "are the pathways of his counsels, and difficult to see. From their high-towering hopes he hurleth down to destruction the race of men. Yet setteth he no forces in array, all his works are effortless. Seated on holiest throne, from thence, unknown to us, he bringeth his will to pass."

http://www.theatredatabase.com/ancient/aeschylus_008.html

Makes a lot of sense if you look at it in a modern context, could be like how Catholics tend to worship saints and the virgin and angels but still consider God the supreme ruler of all. Thanks for that link.

Can Zeus (or any other so-called "omnipotent being") make a sandwich so big even he can't finish eating it?
If he can't, he's not omnipotent.
If he can, he's not omnipotent.
 
 
-Explanation of the sandwich paradox.

@_Punk_ said:

Can Zeus (or any other so-called "omnipotent being") make a sandwich so big even he can't finish eating it? If he can't, he's not omnipotent.If he can, he's not omnipotent. -Explanation of the sandwich paradox.

It's really very hard to comprehend what a "true" omnipotent being is. But I see your point, but I guess this is beyond human understanding.

@_Punk_ said:

Can Zeus (or any other so-called "omnipotent being") make a sandwich so big even he can't finish eating it? If he can't, he's not omnipotent.If he can, he's not omnipotent. -Explanation of the sandwich paradox.

Actually, I would remove every other Omnipotence paradox except for the 2 Omnipotent beings vs eachother. As Omnipotence is far beyond our comprehension we couldn't possibly understand what is actually means. An omnipotent being could for example create a one cornered circle, we could not possibly be able to comprehend how such an object looks like.

@hermankeson said:

@_Punk_ said:

Can Zeus (or any other so-called "omnipotent being") make a sandwich so big even he can't finish eating it? If he can't, he's not omnipotent.If he can, he's not omnipotent. -Explanation of the sandwich paradox.

Actually, I would remove every other Omnipotence paradox except for the 2 Omnipotent beings vs eachother. As Omnipotence is far beyond our comprehension we couldn't possibly understand what is actually means. An omnipotent being could for example create a one cornered circle, we could not possibly be able to comprehend how such an object looks like.

@Mad8Baller said:

@majestic99: @stonerthps: @The_Thunderer: @kingkronos: No. Zeus wins because Zeus can transform. He just needs to turn into something like a Tortoise or a Gremlin.

What????

@Mad8Baller said:

@kingkronos: Bugs bunny can't be beat any other way since he has the toon force. He has lost to a tortoise and a gremlin though.

Don't get me wrong here, but I don't know who are tortoise and a gremlin because I don't watch cartoons. And I'm not getting what you're saying here......

@Mad8Baller said:

@kingkronos: I'm saying Zeus wins since he is omnipotent and can transform. =.= Know who Squirrel girl is? Bugs Bunny is Looney Tunes Squirrel girl.

wins who?

@Om4zd said:

@hermankeson: In simpler terms you mean that we humans do not have the intelligence to perceive anything Godlike that Zeus, for example, would be able to do. Right? I agree with that.

Mythology Zeus wouldn't be able to be defeated I don't think.

No, I'm saying that we wouldn't be able to comprehend paradoxes, we usually think that paradoxes are impossible, but they probably aren't, it's just that we can't comprehend it.

@Mad8Baller said:

@kingkronos: Zeus beats bugs bunny? How slow can you get? If they respond with a trollish response. You counter with a proper argument. Bugs Bunny gets beat by Gremlin. Hence Bugs Bunny gets beat by Gremlin Zeus. You keep this up I'm gonna flag you for trolling.

The hell is wrong with you man? I was just asking. First you mention some cartoon characters and say that Zeus can transform, and then you say he wins. And how the hell should I know what you're talking about? Should I apologize for not knowing cartoon characters?

@Om4zd: so can any marvel character beat mythological Zeus?