" Squirrel girl didn't beat the real one. That watcher is obviously using blatant sarcasm and really means "yes, it is a clone". "And Doomsday never beat up the real Darkseid but you keep using it, Team 2 gets stomped
Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs Thanos and Tyrant
" @Hellos said:" @Jx4gz said:No it isnt, and its old now "" @Hellos said:Still the truth though. "" @Jx4gz said:The squirrel girl thing is getting lame now, she was funny for a few years but now its old, "" @Klandicar said:Squirrel Girl could solo both teams. ""It jarred him, and that wasnt a cloneThanos uses clones quite frequently. He let Thor kill his clone when he teamed up with Mangog....heh, read more Thanos. And above scans prove Darkseid has no durability. What did the Gamora kick do to him anyway? He looks surprised more than hurt. "That isnt a close, and when has Thanos ever used a clone? You failed
You mean the Avatar that Doomsday beat up? An Avatar of Darkseid would curbstomp Thanos also, so would H/P Doomsday
You also keep ignoring the fact that Doomsday[ who would curbstomp Thanos] beat up an avatar of darkseid
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Yes it is the truth, and thats exactly how the fight would end in the comics, don't even know why your bothering to argue this. Its old but thats how it is.
" maybe it just depends on who is writing that story!! I kinda always thought that Thanos was just Marvels version of Darkseid, anyway. After looking at Tyrants power, though, I think he might be the most powerful of the four. At least when he was at full power. "Yeah but Thanos is an incredibly watered down Darkseid though, Thanos high feats are Darkseids low feats
Doesn't get much lower than being Doom and Supes's punching bag or losing to steps. Darkseid never killed half the Universe like Thanos did either. Thanos just has the better feats and Tyrant can solo Team 1 without Thanos even participating anyway.Yeah but Thanos is an incredibly watered down Darkseid though, Thanos high feats are Darkseids low feats
"Darkseid never had a toy like the IG, Thanos has never been a major threat without one of his toy,Doesn't get much lower than being Doom and Supes's punching bag or losing to steps. Darkseid never killed half the Universe like Thanos did either. Thanos just has the better feats and Tyrant can solo Team 1 without Thanos even participating anyway. "Yeah but Thanos is an incredibly watered down Darkseid though, Thanos high feats are Darkseids low feats
Doesnt get much lower then being Gamoras punching bag =/
Darkseid has better feats, Thanos wouldnt even put up a decent fight, if anything he will beg Darkseid not to kill him just like he begged Galactus
Agreed, Thanos is most powerful when he has stolen power, like the Infinity Gauntlet. I think Darkseid could beat normal powered Thanos, but, with Tyrant on the team, I'd say Thanos and Tyrant win. I am being opened minded here, Darkseid has been one of my favorite villians since the eighties.
Nice fights. Here's how it breaks down. Darkseid vs Thanos is a good fight. Yet Darkseid holds a slight advantage w/ the Omega Force/Sanction/Beams. Even if they are equals physically, while Uxas can counter Thanos energy manipulations, there is nothing he can do to stop the Omega Beams. He doesn't hold a significant place in the universe, he wnt be protected by the Source or the Prescence, and b/c of the simple nature of the beams he wnt be able to block them. Darkseid can use that to win. Yuga and Tyrant are the main components, but since Thanos is the weak link here, Darkseid should be able to win and pitch in to help his sire b4 Yuga falls to Tyrant. An together i think they can win it. Team 1 FTW.
" Jobberseid v Doomsday
like a coward, he attempts to hit Doomsday from behind
Doomsday LOL's at the Omega Effect and drags Darkseid (unconscious) across his planet.
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That was an avatar.
" Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? "
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@MrDirector786 said:no it was the real deal" That was an avatar. "
It was only afterward that DC tried to retcon the whole thing
I don't get how Gamora kicking anyone including Thanos is a low showing for Thanos when it was Thanos who designed, built up her body and trained her to be the deadliest woman in the Universe
in fact anything Gamora does should be a testimony to the great abilities of Thanos
Jobberseid defeated by a flight of stairs
IN HIS OWN HOUSE
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oops! maybe he had few too many cocktails. Even gods slip sometimes.
I don't get how Gamora kicking anyone including Thanos is a low showing for Thanos when it was Thanos who designed, built up her body and trained her to be the deadliest woman in the Universe
in fact anything Gamora does should be a testimony to the great abilities of Thanos
Jobberseid defeated by a flight of stairs
IN HIS OWN HOUSE
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" @Lance Uppercut said:" Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? ""
Not many
"@Lance Uppercut said:" @Lance Uppercut said:Not many "" Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? ""
I missed the whole Yuga Khan thing, but I think his powers were similar to Darkseid's, but no OE. I am probably a little off though.
Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight.
I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely.
Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle.
Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time...
" Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? "
" @Lance Uppercut said:Sorry,but maybe because of my English, I am not sure that I understand You in 100%." Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? ""
You belive that Darkseid will easily defeat Thanos and YK is above Skyfathers?
P.S. If You are with Omega Beams then I must admitt that think that they aren't as powerfull as they were in old times.
" @Morpheus_ said:No. I am merely asking for more information on Yuga Khan, because the vast majority of people in this thread, are trying to downplay either Darkseid, or Thanos, depending on their preference, and it is impossible to actually come up with an accurate assessment that way." @Lance Uppercut said:Sorry,but maybe because of my English, I am not sure that I understand You in 100%. You belive that Darkseid will easily defeat Thanos and YK is above Skyfathers? P.S. If You are with Omega Beams then I must admitt that think that they aren't as powerfull as they were in old times. "" Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? ""
To my knoweldge, the OB have never been retconed. It's all on how the writers decide to employ (or, more specifically, and importantly, not employ) them.
" @czarny_samael said:1.That is why I didn't read more than one page in this thread..." @Morpheus_ said:No. I am merely asking for more information on Yuga Khan, because the vast majority of people in this thread, are trying to downplay either Darkseid, or Thanos, depending on their preference, and it is impossible to actually come up with an accurate assessment that way." @Lance Uppercut said:Sorry,but maybe because of my English, I am not sure that I understand You in 100%. You belive that Darkseid will easily defeat Thanos and YK is above Skyfathers? P.S. If You are with Omega Beams then I must admitt that think that they aren't as powerfull as they were in old times. "" Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? ""
To my knoweldge, the OB have never been retconed. It's all on how the writers decide to employ (or, more specifically, and importantly, not employ) them. "
2.I am not sure about Yuga Khan level power too, but from what I've read in DC database and in comicvine he is (almost) in Skyfather level. Thanos and Darkseid aren't and even if they are, 3 Skyfather level beings won't defeat fully power Tyrant because he is as powerfull as fully power Galactus (Tyrant was created millions of years ago when Galan didn't need as many planets as he need today).
3.About Omega Beams... I don't know the circumstances,but Doomsday and couple other guys defleceted it. Besides, I belive that Thanos biggest weapon is his durability. He maybe can destroy "only" a planet,but planet busting attack isn't enough to take him. After I've read his battle against Odin,Tyrant,Galactus,Omega and couple other beings I am not sure that galaxy busting attack will destroy him.
P.S. In last hour I saw Thanos KOing In-betweener. Did You know something about it?
Yuga Khan is basically a bigger version of Darkseid. He also wields the Omega force, which Darkseid has inherited from him, but has more raw power at his disposal. He is powerful enough to the point that Highfather, the most powerful DC god, does not dare confront him in his quest to learn the source.
He also has great matter manipulating powers. In his first appearance he does this to Darkseid:
Unfortunately, I went through all of it...Check Phantom's answer on Yuga, he should have more info about him, and hopefully this will prove enlightening about both the character, and the thread." @Morpheus_ said:
" @czarny_samael said:1.That is why I didn't read more than one page in this thread..." @Morpheus_ said:No. I am merely asking for more information on Yuga Khan, because the vast majority of people in this thread, are trying to downplay either Darkseid, or Thanos, depending on their preference, and it is impossible to actually come up with an accurate assessment that way." @Lance Uppercut said:Sorry,but maybe because of my English, I am not sure that I understand You in 100%. You belive that Darkseid will easily defeat Thanos and YK is above Skyfathers? P.S. If You are with Omega Beams then I must admitt that think that they aren't as powerfull as they were in old times. "" Seeing as how Tyrant is carrying his team, and the guys that are arguing for the MArvel side have no idea what they're talking about, besides making Darkseid look like a pansy, what other feats does Yuga Kahn posses before I make a judgment call? ""
To my knoweldge, the OB have never been retconed. It's all on how the writers decide to employ (or, more specifically, and importantly, not employ) them. "
2.I am not sure about Yuga Khan level power too, but from what I've read in DC database and in comicvine he is (almost) in Skyfather level. Thanos and Darkseid aren't and even if they are, 3 Skyfather level beings won't defeat fully power Tyrant because he is as powerfull as fully power Galactus (Tyrant was created millions of years ago when Galan didn't need as many planets as he need today).
3.About Omega Beams... I don't know the circumstances,but Doomsday and couple other guys defleceted it. Besides, I belive that Thanos biggest weapon is his durability. He maybe can destroy "only" a planet,but planet busting attack isn't enough to take him. After I've read his battle against Odin,Tyrant,Galactus,Omega and couple other beings I am not sure that galaxy busting attack will destroy him. P.S. In last hour I saw Thanos KOing In-betweener. Did You know something about it? "
I know how powerful Tyrant was while at full power. He was extremely powerful, but I wouldn't rank him as Galactus' equal. But it is obvious that he was close.
Doomsday didn't reflect anything. Darkseid used the OB on him, but if it was the full effect, we cannot know. Wonder Woman did, with her bracelets, which are mystical.
In most of the fights against beings of higher power than his own, Thanos is enhanced. The fight with the In-Betweener happened in a place of existence where he (IB) was powerless.
I'm still waiting for some feats from Yuga. I wholeheartedly believe that Tyrant could beat Darkseid (OP never stated a power level though, so I'm still not sure if it's Depowered or not, which could make a difference if Yuga comes out stronger then I anticipate).
"I'm still waiting for some feats from Yuga. I wholeheartedly believe that Tyrant could beat Darkseid (OP never stated a power level though, so I'm still not sure if it's Depowered or not, which could make a difference if Yuga comes out stronger then I anticipate). "
Usually when King Saturn means Full power tyrant he means when Tyrant was Galactus's 'equal' way back with power cosmic and all the shiney toys that comes with it.
" Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here...
" @czarny_samael said:Thanos needed a massive boost from one of Tyrant's orbs just to even be in the same room as him, let alone fight him." Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here... "
" @King Saturn said:" @czarny_samael said:Thanos needed a massive boost from one of Tyrant's orbs just to even be in the same room as him, let alone fight him. "" Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here... "
Massive Powerup my Azz... those Orbs didnt greatly enhance Thanos...
This is the key difference between Thanos and Darkseid. If Supes put his finger in Thanos's face like that and told him how to act...Thanos would take that finger and stick it you know where. Man...and Darkseid got his eyes beat shut by a couple punches and can't even use Omega effect. For the tenth time, Thanos STOMPS them both.
" @CAPiTA said:it was a substantial boost nonetheless. Thanos wouldn't have bothered with it if he knew it wouldn't give him a good enough amount of power to take on Tyrant." @King Saturn said:" @czarny_samael said:Thanos needed a massive boost from one of Tyrant's orbs just to even be in the same room as him, let alone fight him. "" Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here... "Massive Powerup my Azz... those Orbs didnt greatly enhance Thanos...
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" @King Saturn said:actually the enegy boost from the Orb wasnt that great... the power of the Orb came from a mid level herald that he took... and that level of power would not have put him anywhere near Skyfather level... Thanos mainly handled Depowered Tyrant under his own power... it wasnt like the power boost doubled his power or even gave him half fold of what he already had..." @CAPiTA said:it was a substantial boost nonetheless. Thanos wouldn't have bothered with it if he knew it wouldn't give him a good enough amount of power to take on Tyrant. "" @King Saturn said:" @czarny_samael said:Thanos needed a massive boost from one of Tyrant's orbs just to even be in the same room as him, let alone fight him. "" Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here... "Massive Powerup my Azz... those Orbs didnt greatly enhance Thanos...
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" @czarny_samael said:Thanos was handling Odin in worse style,but without any boosts and from what I've seen Odin was giving everything what he has (in Asgard) to defeat Thanos. I think that D-Tyrant has a chance against Skyfathers." Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here... "
Today I saw that Yuga Khan is probably above Highfather who is Skyfather in DC (I don't know how I can compare Skyfathers from Marvel and DC,because I don't what is their greatest feat,but I belive that they close in power) and this change my opinion about this battle (I look for that thanks to Morpheus_ and AtPhantom):
Thanos=Darkseid (they are too close to make a diffrence in this fight)
Yuga Khan > DTyrant
If Yuga Khan is in Elder God level (from Marvel), he can defeat Thanos,Darkseid and DTyrant at the same time,because any EGL being can do this.
But if we are using fully power Tyrant, he is almost as powerfull as fully power Galactus, ergo he will defeat DC Team easily.
" @King Saturn said:Tyrant at full power is not really greater than Yuga Khan... remember even though Tyrant was able to battle against Galactus... he still lost to Galactus meaning even though he maybe near Galactus power level... he isnt totally Galactus level... and also keep in mind that Galactus is an entity thats important to his Universe... while Tyrant isnt... meaning the Omega Beams and Omega Force will have a serious effect of Tyrant;s body... even if he is at Full Power..." @czarny_samael said:Thanos was handling Odin in worse style,but without any boosts and from what I've seen Odin was giving everything what he has (in Asgard) to defeat Thanos. I think that D-Tyrant has a chance against Skyfathers. Today I saw that Yuga Khan is probably above Highfather who is Skyfather in DC (I don't know how I can compare Skyfathers from Marvel and DC,because I don't what is their greatest feat,but I belive that they close in power) and this change my opinion about this battle (I look for that thanks to Morpheus_ and AtPhantom): Thanos=Darkseid (they are too close to make a diffrence in this fight)Yuga Khan > DTyrant If Yuga Khan is in Elder God level (from Marvel), he can defeat Thanos,Darkseid and DTyrant at the same time,because any EGL being can do this. But if we are using fully power Tyrant, he is almost as powerfull as fully power Galactus, ergo he will defeat DC Team easily. "" Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here... "
" @CAPiTA said:Er, Thanos admitted that if he stayed, Tyrant would have beat him. So would your like to point out where Thanos was 'handling' Tyrant? I'll wait." @King Saturn said:actually the enegy boost from the Orb wasnt that great... the power of the Orb came from a mid level herald that he took... and that level of power would not have put him anywhere near Skyfather level... Thanos mainly handled Depowered Tyrant under his own power... it wasnt like the power boost doubled his power or even gave him half fold of what he already had... "" @CAPiTA said:it was a substantial boost nonetheless. Thanos wouldn't have bothered with it if he knew it wouldn't give him a good enough amount of power to take on Tyrant. "" @King Saturn said:" @czarny_samael said:Thanos needed a massive boost from one of Tyrant's orbs just to even be in the same room as him, let alone fight him. "" Yuga Khan and Darkseid vs. Depowered Tyrant and Thanos will be a better fight. I belive that Thanos should defeat Darkseid,but barely. Depowered Tyrant is in Skyfather level and I think that Yuga Khan isn't above that. This Team 2 will win after really hard battle. Tyrant in full power is almost like full power Galactus which means he can destroy other three guys at the same time... "Yuga Khan is higher than Depowered Tyrant... Thanos was handling Depowered Tyrant... and Thanos isnt Skyfather Level either... so I dont know what you are driving at here... "Massive Powerup my Azz... those Orbs didnt greatly enhance Thanos...
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