Yoda vs Mace, Obi, and DV Pre-Mustafar

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#1  Edited By ImBoredLetsDebate

RotS versions of all

Setting: Geonosis

Speedblitz off.

Bloodlust on:

Round 1: Lightsaber Only

Round 2: Force Use Only

Round 3: Lightsaber and Force Use

Bloodlust off:

Round 1: Lightsaber only

Round 2: Force Use Only

Round 3: Lightsaber and Force Use

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You posted the "bloodlust on" rounds twice.

In any case, I'm not sure who would win the lightsaber duel, but I think I can safely proclaim Yoda as the more powerful telekinetic relative to them both.

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Bloodlust on:

Round 1: Lightsaber Only

Round 2: Force Use Only

Round 3: Lightsaber and Force Use

Round 1 - Yoda stomps by blitzing them at speeds they can't perceive.

Round 2 - Yoda crushes them with the Force.

Round 3 - Yoda crushes them with the Force.

Bloodlust off:

Round 1: Lightsaber only

Round 2: Force Use Only

Round 3: Lightsaber and Force Use

Round 1 - Yoda wins after a decent fight.

Round 2 - Yoda subdues them with the Force.

Round 3 - Yoda incapacitates using a combination of telekinesis and lightsaber combat.

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What ILS said.

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#8  Edited By NinjaWarrior268

Going by just the movies, I think the team can won this since the OP said ROTS versions and didn't say we're using legends feats. Vader is 75 percent as strong as Palpatine in the movies according to George Lucas and Anakin is a little above Vader in sheer force power. Mace should be able to make up for the 25 percent gap since the movies show it's possible for him to fight against Sidious.

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Yoda still wins, even in a lightsaber duel.

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Yoda can take them for all rounds.

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@retconcrisis: yoda is an absolute monster but these 3 r to strong to loss a 3v1. Team wins every round. They would beat sidious too

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@imboredletsdebate said:

I edited to remove the speedblitz and added DV @i_like_swords@shootingnova

So, Yoda is now roughly as fast as Mace and Obi-Wan? Allow me to amend the rounds then.

@i_like_swords said:

Bloodlust on:

Round 1: Lightsaber Only

Round 2: Force Use Only

Round 3: Lightsaber and Force Use

Round 1 - Team wins in a good fight.

Round 2 - Yoda crushes them with the Force.

Round 3 - Yoda crushes them with the Force.

Bloodlust off:

Round 1: Lightsaber only

Round 2: Force Use Only

Round 3: Lightsaber and Force Use

Round 1 - Teams wins after a decent fight.

Round 2 - Yoda subdues them with the Force.

Round 3 - Yoda incapacitates using a combination of telekinesis and lightsaber combat.

Well, I only had to edit the lightsaber only rounds, since those are the rounds where Yoda would be winning via superior speed. Without his vastly superior speed, Yoda is only slightly better than Mace Windu in raw skill, and by extension is only marginally better than Obi-Wan. Together they would defeat him.. although Yoda is still much stronger than them both physically, and Obi-Wan's Soresu isn't ideal for offence - and Obi-Wan swapping to Ataru to combat Yoda is silly for obvious reasons. If Yoda could separate them both, perhaps by sending Kenobi flying with physical strikes, he could focus on Mace and then take Kenobi down. Darth Maul was able to kick Aayla while fighting Mace Windu, and Yoda is stronger than Maul, a more skilled duelist, and far more acrobatic - and Kenobi has already fallen victim to kicks from Count Dooku. So I wouldn't say it's a stretch to consider Yoda defeating Kenobi physically and then taking Mace down by himself.

Whether or not Yoda could do this for a majority, is highly debatable. To be safe, I will give the team the win here for a majority. But I will say that Yoda has the potential to beat them both at the same time, at equal speed levels, if he is able to combat them in the most effective manner.

Edit: Oh, and with Anakin added the team wins the lightsaber rounds for sure. Maybe even the lightsaber and Force round as well, since three comparably skilled opponents at equal speeds to Yoda would be sufficient to overwhelm him. Although Yoda would still take the Force only rounds, since I believe that even collectively they can't quite match him.

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@i_like_swords: Without hindrances, I doubt Yoda would overwhelm all the Jedi at once in the Force. Anakin alone is comparable (Mace alone has drawn that comparison many times, and he has already considered the possibility of him being even more powerful than Yoda and being the most powerful of all Jedi), and Anakin's telekinetic showings are comparable as well. Obi-Wan can't compare, and neither could Mace, but collectively, I could see them surpassing Yoda.

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@i_like_swords: Without hindrances, I doubt Yoda would overwhelm all the Jedi at once in the Force. Anakin alone is comparable (Mace alone has drawn that comparison many times, and he has already considered the possibility of him being even more powerful than Yoda and being the most powerful of all Jedi), and Anakin's telekinetic showings are comparable as well. Obi-Wan can't compare, and neither could Mace, but collectively, I could see them surpassing Yoda.

I don't see RotS Anakin as being as powerful as Yoda. This is news to me..

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Yoda losing to the team in a Force fight? I'm not buying it. He will however lose to them in the lightsaber only and probably all-out fights.

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@thevivas said:

@i_like_swords: In Raw Force power, he most likely is.

Maybe. But I would vouch for Yoda being his decisive superior in application of Force power, thus allowing more power to be utilised. Or, he's just more powerful.

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@i_like_swords: Completely agree. Plus he has a far greater knowledge of the Force, plus more abilities at his disposal. Anakin just has the greater number of midi-chlorians, giving him more "potential' than anyone before him(kinda like Goku and Gohan). Would subduing the Son and Daughter on Mortis be a feat that puts him equal to or above Yoda? Or was he amped when he did that?

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#20  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

I could see Yoda taking this. Wouldn't stomp, but might win 6-7/10.

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What JediXman said.

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@thevivas said:

@i_like_swords: Completely agree. Plus he has a far greater knowledge of the Force, plus more abilities at his disposal. Anakin just has the greater number of midi-chlorians, giving him more "potential' than anyone before him(kinda like Goku and Gohan). Would subduing the Son and Daughter on Mortis be a feat that puts him equal to or above Yoda? Or was he amped when he did that?

Yeah, Anakin had more potential than Yoda but just never realized it.

IIRC it was his status as the Chosen One that allowed him to do that, not his actual Force power. And it'd be a bit silly if he did, given that the Son and Daughter are the embodiments of the Light and Dark sides of the Force.

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@i_like_swords: I never said Anakin is as powerful as Yoda. I said he was comparable, which he is.

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@shootingnova: I was more disagreeing with Mace there than you, haha.

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@i_like_swords: Ah. Well, their feats are comparable, telekinetically, at least.

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@shootingnova: I can agree that Anakin's raw power is up there, although I'm not really an expert on either character anyway.

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It's still a team of 3. That's important

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#29  Edited By spartankobe

Ends in sex.