Yamamoto vs his Captains - Battles

#1 Edited by OneVision_OnePurpose (289 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Genryūsai Shigekuni Yamamoto vs the other Captains of the Shinigami.

Battle takes place in an abandoned Soul Society

No prep, morals on.

Round 1: The Captains as of the beginning of Bleach

Round 2: The Captains after Aizen's betrayal

Bonus: Assuming Yamamoto cannot defeat all other Captains, what would you say is the largest combination he can defeat at one time.

#2 Posted by Ferdelance (2325 posts) - 5 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Gin, Aizen and Tousen included?

#3 Posted by OneVision_OnePurpose (289 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Ferdelance: Edited the OP to take that into consideration.

#4 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu

#5 Posted by Ferdelance (2325 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Honestly, I think Gin could solo the 1st round if he uses his Bankai and hits him with Kamishini no Yari'. Second round I think Mayuri could take him with prep, if not, I don't think he could beat all the Captain. I think he would be able to take out Kenpachi, Komamura and Soifon.

#6 Edited by RumbleMan_Exe (1544 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Yama is not illusion proof

if they all gang on him he dies

illusion + removal of senses + double tap kill + weird ass kiddie games +senbonzakura + bushido + 500x sound speed snipe + poison...

yeah

note that in rukia arc kyoraku and ukitake held him off

#7 Posted by OneVision_OnePurpose (289 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@RumbleMan_Exe said:

Yama is not illusion proof
if they all gang on him he dies
illusion + removal of senses + double tap kill + weird ass kiddie games +senbonzakura + bushido + 500x sound speed snipe + poison...
yeah
note that in rukia arc kyoraku and ukitake held him off

Think so? It seemed more like they only survived that encounter because it was interrupted to me.

#8 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1544 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@OneVision_OnePurpose: off-screen

open to interpreation

go by manga

#9 Posted by GhostRider2 (1625 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

His captains would own him.

#10 Posted by GhostRider2 (1625 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Ferdelance said:

Honestly, I think Gin could solo the 1st round if he uses his Bankai and hits him with Kamishini no Yari'. Second round I think Mayuri could take him with prep, if not, I don't think he could beat all the Captain. I think he would be able to take out Kenpachi, Komamura and Soifon.

Kenpachi?I don't think so, Kenpachi is crazy without his patch.

#11 Posted by Ferdelance (2325 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@GhostRider2: Yamato outclasses Kenpachi in everything.

#12 Posted by OneVision_OnePurpose (289 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu

@Ferdelance said:

Honestly, I think Gin could solo the 1st round if he uses his Bankai and hits him with Kamishini no Yari'. Second round I think Mayuri could take him with prep, if not, I don't think he could beat all the Captain. I think he would be able to take out Kenpachi, Komamura and Soifon.

@GhostRider2 said:

His captains would own him.

Rather different opinions here. I'm sure you all know what to do. Evidence~

#13 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu

Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..

#14 Posted by Ferdelance (2325 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@OneVision_OnePurpose: Korose, Kamishini no Yari (Kill, God-Killing Spear): Kamishini no Yari's true ability as well as its deadliest aspect is not based on its length or speed but rather its ability to turn into dust for just a second when it expands out and contracts. There is a deadly poison inside the blade that dissolves and breaks down cells. He can leave a sliver of his Zanpakuto in an opponent when he retracts Kamishini no Yari, allowing him to kill an opponent at any time when he chooses to by uttering the technique name, while placing his hand up to the target. The result causes the target to completely break down and dissolve at the cellular level from the inside out. I don't think he could survive this.

#15 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@OneVision_OnePurpose: Have you not seen what Yama's bankai can do? Anyone here who knows of his bankai knows he'd pretty much stomp if he were to use it. The only reason why Aizen makes a difference is due to his zanpaktou's ability otherwise he get beaten to and the rest of the captains don't stand a chance aside from the ones who were his students (i.e. Jashiro, Restu, and Shinsui

#16 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..

I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one

#17 Posted by DarkDay (343 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..
I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one

It's stated that Kenpachi is the only captain to never achieve Bankai. Of course it could turn out that Aizen's captain's test was all an illusion but more likely he does have a bankai and like his shikai he never let anyone know what it actually does. But the possibility does exist that he doesn't. Personally I'd bet we do get to see it. If only because I think it's only a matter of time before someone springs Aizen from the brig and there is a huge throw down over the Spirit King.

#18 Posted by Strider92 (11321 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Round 1: Captains stomp

Round 2: Yama could probably win this with difficulty.

#19 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@DarkDay said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..
I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one
It's stated that Kenpachi is the only captain to never achieve Bankai. Of course it could turn out that Aizen's captain's test was all an illusion but more likely he does have a bankai and like his shikai he never let anyone know what it actually does. But the possibility does exist that he doesn't. Personally I'd bet we do get to see it. If only because I think it's only a matter of time before someone springs Aizen from the brig and there is a huge throw down over the Spirit King.

The major problem with that is the fact there has been more than one Kenpachi and noone should be crazy enough to spring Aizen from prison

#20 Posted by Strider92 (11321 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder: My bet is someone real tough is going to come and try to destroy the Seritei and with Yama gone the next most powerful guy is Aizen. It would make sense that he would fight to help them if there was something that strong threatening everything including him and his plans. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and all. You're right no one would be crazy enough to free him under normal circumstances but under desperate circumstances against a foe they can't beat I would see that as a reason. They'd all be dead anyway why not throw everything they've got at whatever it happens to be.

#21 Posted by DarkDay (343 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@DarkDay said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..
I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one
It's stated that Kenpachi is the only captain to never achieve Bankai. Of course it could turn out that Aizen's captain's test was all an illusion but more likely he does have a bankai and like his shikai he never let anyone know what it actually does. But the possibility does exist that he doesn't. Personally I'd bet we do get to see it. If only because I think it's only a matter of time before someone springs Aizen from the brig and there is a huge throw down over the Spirit King.
The major problem with that is the fact there has been more than one Kenpachi and noone should be crazy enough to spring Aizen from prison

Not at all, because it was said Kenpachi Zaraki and he's the only Kenpachi that takes the title not only as a name but adds a sir name, at least so far. And I bet someone is crazy enough. XD

#22 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (900 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Are you serious? Yamamoto one-shots them all. As soon as he activates his bankai they can't get close and all their attacks are rendered useless.

#23 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92: Well this arc is the last one so if it happens it'll happen soon but due to the involvement of the Zero Division and the recent(today) reveal that the Ouken is in fact the very bones of the 0 squad then if they were to free Aizen, they would only be causing their own self destruction.

#24 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@DarkDay said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:
@DarkDay said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..
I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one
It's stated that Kenpachi is the only captain to never achieve Bankai. Of course it could turn out that Aizen's captain's test was all an illusion but more likely he does have a bankai and like his shikai he never let anyone know what it actually does. But the possibility does exist that he doesn't. Personally I'd bet we do get to see it. If only because I think it's only a matter of time before someone springs Aizen from the brig and there is a huge throw down over the Spirit King.
The major problem with that is the fact there has been more than one Kenpachi and noone should be crazy enough to spring Aizen from prison
Not at all, because it was said Kenpachi Zaraki and he's the only Kenpachi that takes the title not only as a name but adds a sir name, at least so far. And I bet someone is crazy enough. XD

Yeah I know and i really doubt they'll free him unless due to bad writing

#25 Posted by Strider92 (11321 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@redbird3rdboywonder: I haven't touched Bleach since the Fullbringer stuff (god I wanted to claw my eyes out during that) so i'm quite far behind whats going on in Bleach atm. It just seem logical that the only reason they would free Aizen was if someone was running around who could roflstomp them.

Unless everything that has happened since the the fight with the Gotei 13 is just Aizen's Bankai mass altering reality and they are all really still laying out-cold on the battle field while Aizen drinks tea wearing his troll-face.

#26 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3305 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92: Well Aizen was made an offer to be freed by Juha Bach(the current villain) but he refused to join and even though he was still imprisoned, he altered Juha Bach's perception of time even though his Zanpaktou has been confiscated from him

#27 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Unless everything that has happened since the the fight with the Gotei 13 is just Aizen's Bankai mass altering reality and they are all really still laying out-cold on the battle field while Aizen drinks tea wearing his troll-face.

lol that'd be real funny..

#28 Edited by mypasswordis1234 (877 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I don't think Yama could solo Before-Aizen's betrayal or After.

There are too many abilities and we haven't seen all of their bankai yet. For example, that guy with two sword who can absorb fire, and Toshiro who have the strongest ice-based bankai, or... So, they doesn't have to go close to Yama. After the betray, there are the Vizards, it's just too much for Yama.

@DarkDay said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..
I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one
It's stated that Kenpachi is the only captain to never achieve Bankai. Of course it could turn out that Aizen's captain's test was all an illusion but more likely he does have a bankai and like his shikai he never let anyone know what it actually does. But the possibility does exist that he doesn't. Personally I'd bet we do get to see it. If only because I think it's only a matter of time before someone springs Aizen from the brig and there is a huge throw down over the Spirit King.

Did Kubo said that Kenpachi will never achieve Bankai? Because I see some chance now as he and Byakuya defeated so bad a doctor shinigami said even if they survive the injuries they may not able to heal back to captain level.

Byakuya brought to the Soul King's place(power boost incoming) and they not mention any more about Kenpachi. That would be possible his reiatsu level stay low for a certain time, and during that, he learn the bankai. I hope he will, he got enough reason already.

#29 Posted by DarkDay (343 posts) - 5 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@mypasswordis1234 said:

I don't think Yama could solo Before-Aizen's betrayal or After.
There are too many abilities and we haven't seen all of their bankai yet. For example, that guy with two sword who can absorb fire, and Toshiro who have the strongest ice-based bankai, or... So, they doesn't have to go close to Yama. After the betray, there are the Vizards, it's just too much for Yama.
@DarkDay said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..
I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one
It's stated that Kenpachi is the only captain to never achieve Bankai. Of course it could turn out that Aizen's captain's test was all an illusion but more likely he does have a bankai and like his shikai he never let anyone know what it actually does. But the possibility does exist that he doesn't. Personally I'd bet we do get to see it. If only because I think it's only a matter of time before someone springs Aizen from the brig and there is a huge throw down over the Spirit King.
Did Kubo said that Kenpachi will never achieve Bankai? Because I see some chance now as he and Byakuya defeated so bad a doctor shinigami said even if they survive the injuries they may not able to heal back to captain level.
Byakuya brought to the Soul King's place(power boost incoming) and they not mention any more about Kenpachi. That would be possible his reiatsu level stay low for a certain time, and during that, he learn the bankai. I hope he will, he got enough reason already.

No one said he'd never achieve Bankai, only that he is in canon mentioned as the only person ever to achieve the rank of Captain without having a Bankai. But then considering he defeated a Captain in single combat to get his spot, I'm gonna say they thought that little wrinkle was pretty much moot. Also, careful of spoilers.

#30 Posted by mypasswordis1234 (877 posts) - 5 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@DarkDay said:

@mypasswordis1234 said:
I don't think Yama could solo Before-Aizen's betrayal or After.
There are too many abilities and we haven't seen all of their bankai yet. For example, that guy with two sword who can absorb fire, and Toshiro who have the strongest ice-based bankai, or... So, they doesn't have to go close to Yama. After the betray, there are the Vizards, it's just too much for Yama.
@DarkDay said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
@redbird3rdboywonder said:
He could stomp both rounds if he used his bankai even Aizen would be made to look like fodder. in character the captains take round 1 due to Aizen and his Koyuka Suigestu.(then again the whole battle could just be an illusion) In round 2 most of the captains get wiped out fast aside from Jashiro, Shinsui, and Restu
Hey, to be fair, aizen hasn't shown his ban kai also..
I doubt we'll ever see it if he even has one
It's stated that Kenpachi is the only captain to never achieve Bankai. Of course it could turn out that Aizen's captain's test was all an illusion but more likely he does have a bankai and like his shikai he never let anyone know what it actually does. But the possibility does exist that he doesn't. Personally I'd bet we do get to see it. If only because I think it's only a matter of time before someone springs Aizen from the brig and there is a huge throw down over the Spirit King.
Did Kubo said that Kenpachi will never achieve Bankai? Because I see some chance now as he and Byakuya defeated so bad a doctor shinigami said even if they survive the injuries they may not able to heal back to captain level.
Byakuya brought to the Soul King's place(power boost incoming) and they not mention any more about Kenpachi. That would be possible his reiatsu level stay low for a certain time, and during that, he learn the bankai. I hope he will, he got enough reason already.
No one said he'd never achieve Bankai, only that he is in canon mentioned as the only person ever to achieve the rank of Captain without having a Bankai. But then considering he defeated a Captain in single combat to get his spot, I'm gonna say they thought that little wrinkle was pretty much moot. Also, careful of spoilers.

I knew that, and now I can sleep in peace to know there is a hope Kubo will give him a cool bankai.

I wanted to wait for years if it need to watch it in anime, but spoilers are almost there in every Bleach battle.

#31 Posted by D3athstroke (3657 posts) - 5 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

There is absolutely nothing that captains can do against Zanka No Techi

#32 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1544 posts) - 5 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@D3athstroke said:

There is absolutely nothing that captains can do against Zanka No Techi

'Its an illusion'

#33 Posted by DarkDay (343 posts) - 5 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@D3athstroke said:

There is absolutely nothing that captains can do against Zanka No Techi

If Azien is there, he could theoretically get him to kill himself. Complete hypnosis is a little Mary Sue for a reason. But I agree for the most part that if he gets to Bankai it might be over for them. But even so all Captains at once is a steep climb especially with the indirect abilities a lot of this crew has (especially if the traitor captains are in the fight). Way too much poison and things that will kill you horrifyingly indirectly for the comments about one shots in my opinion.

#34 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 5 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

I don't think even captain commander could stand up to all his captains at once..