Xmen vs. Avengers

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LOL..It's okay. "

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Charmix
LOL..It's okay. "

to end this I say it goes either way lol(: "

I think a better question would be. Who would Thor remove from the fight first? I would say threats to Ironman. Emma and/or Pixie?

" I think a better question would be. Who would Thor remove from the fight first? 

 I would say threats to Ironman. Emma and/or Pixie? "

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it will come down to Ironman THor wolverine and emma.

thor is too much for the xmen

wolverine cant beat him he can fight him but thats about it

by huge long shot wolverine may beat ironman but still thor wont go down

avengers win

Northstar is perhaps faster than Iron Man so either he takes Colossus wand x-23 with him or Pixie can teleport both Colossus and x-23 to be able to hold Iron Man then surely, Iron Man will be beaten.
 
Psylocke and Emma will take down Thor with Archangel carrying Wolvie to slice Thor
 
Armor beats Hawkeye.
 
Warpath takes care of Cap'n America
 
iceman beat Spiderman
 
Hepizibah and Dazzler trashes Black Widow
 
Cyclops strikes optic blasts to hit Spiderwoman then strikes other avenegers members too.
 
 
X-men wins this.

" Northstar is perhaps faster than Iron Man so either he takes Colossus wand x-23 with him or Pixie can teleport both Colossus and x-23 to be able to hold Iron Man then surely, Iron Man will be beaten.  Psylocke and Emma will take down Thor with Archangel carrying Wolvie to slice Thor Armor beats Hawkeye.  Warpath takes care of Cap'n America  iceman beat Spiderman  Hepizibah and Dazzler trashes Black Widow  Cyclops strikes optic blasts to hit Spiderwoman then strikes other avenegers members too.   X-men wins this. "

Its the X-Men - too many long range attacks and heavy hitters.
 
It is a pity though people underestimate the Dazzler, she is one of the most deadliest characters in the team.  During her 80's run she has demonstrated things that can knock off even an Olympian God. Her powers are not just flashes of light, it can be as intense and hot at it gets. She can also create illusions with it.... I guess, writers really screwed her up big time eversince she came back.

 @rbysjti said:

" Northstar is perhaps faster than Iron Man so either he takes Colossus wand x-23 with him or Pixie can teleport both Colossus and x-23 to be able to hold Iron Man then surely, Iron Man will be beaten.  Psylocke and Emma will take down Thor with Archangel carrying Wolvie to slice Thor Armor beats Hawkeye.  Warpath takes care of Cap'n America  iceman beat Spiderman  Hepizibah and Dazzler trashes Black Widow  Cyclops strikes optic blasts to hit Spiderwoman then strikes other avenegers members too.   X-men wins this. "

Ironman will not be held by Colossus and X-23. His strength out matches both of them. You don't have any proof that they will even be able to react to Thor. I've already shown that he can move far beyond human comprehension(that includes telepaths). You honesty think that Thor would let Wolverine get that close? All Thor has to do it use his hammer to one shot Wolverine to the next galaxy. Captain America has years of experience Warpath has how many? Now I'm not saying that it would be easy but Cap could take him. I agree with the iceman part as well as Dazzler and cat girl. Spider-Woman can use those nifty pheromones to make Scott fall completely in love with her.
 
@IcePrince_X said:

" Its the X-Men - too many long range attacks and heavy hitters. It is a pity though people underestimate the Dazzler, she is one of the most deadliest characters in the team.  During her 80's run she has demonstrated things that can knock off even an Olympian God. Her powers are not just flashes of light, it can be as intense and hot at it gets. She can also create illusions with it.... I guess, writers really screwed her up big time eversince she came back. "

Ughhhhh I say Dazzler ftw,

Are we serious here?  WHAT THE HELL! 165 posts and everyone's missed the OBVIOUS HERE.
 
Emma Frost completely destroys the minds of nearly everyone on the Avengers. While she's doing that, Iceman completely and utterly owns EVERYONE except for perhaps Thor -- who, by himself, simply could not take on all of that X-Roster. No freaking way.
 
Seriously, just imagine Captain America or IRON MAN (a heap of electronics) trying to take on Iceman. It'd be a JOKE.

dazzler's illusion is actually solid holograms that can also do some damage depends on how strong she makes them to be.... she used this when Jean and her attacked Magneto.

"Emma Frost completely destroys the minds of nearly everyone on the Avengers. While she's doing that, Iceman completely and utterly owns EVERYONE except for perhaps Thor -- who, by himself, simply could not take on all of that X-Roster. No freaking way.  Seriously, just imagine Captain America or IRON MAN (a heap of electronics) trying to take on Iceman. It'd be a JOKE. "

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" dazzler's illusion is actually solid holograms that can also do some damage depends on how strong she makes them to be.... she used this when Jean and her attacked Magneto. "

X-Men.

"  @rbysjti said:

" Northstar is perhaps faster than Iron Man so either he takes Colossus wand x-23 with him or Pixie can teleport both Colossus and x-23 to be able to hold Iron Man then surely, Iron Man will be beaten.  Psylocke and Emma will take down Thor with Archangel carrying Wolvie to slice Thor Armor beats Hawkeye.  Warpath takes care of Cap'n America  iceman beat Spiderman  Hepizibah and Dazzler trashes Black Widow  Cyclops strikes optic blasts to hit Spiderwoman then strikes other avenegers members too.   X-men wins this. "

Ironman will not be held by Colossus and X-23. His strength out matches both of them. You don't have any proof that they will even be able to react to Thor. I've already shown that he can move far beyond human comprehension(that includes telepaths). You honesty think that Thor would let Wolverine get that close? All Thor has to do it use his hammer to one shot Wolverine to the next galaxy. Captain America has years of experience Warpath has how many? Now I'm not saying that it would be easy but Cap could take him. I agree with the iceman part as well as Dazzler and cat girl. Spider-Woman can use those nifty pheromones to make Scott fall completely in love with her.
 
@IcePrince_X said:

" Its the X-Men - too many long range attacks and heavy hitters. It is a pity though people underestimate the Dazzler, she is one of the most deadliest characters in the team.  During her 80's run she has demonstrated things that can knock off even an Olympian God. Her powers are not just flashes of light, it can be as intense and hot at it gets. She can also create illusions with it.... I guess, writers really screwed her up big time eversince she came back. "

What do you call Thor and IM? They outclass Any of the X-men's heavy hitters in this battle. But does she still have that type of power. I mean as someone stated before Dazzler faced the Avengers before. So they know what they are dealing with. Plus Thor and IM could adsorb all of her blast..illusion? Pixie would do better IMO...
 

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"  @rbysjti said:

" Northstar is perhaps faster than Iron Man so either he takes Colossus wand x-23 with him or Pixie can teleport both Colossus and x-23 to be able to hold Iron Man then surely, Iron Man will be beaten.  Psylocke and Emma will take down Thor with Archangel carrying Wolvie to slice Thor Armor beats Hawkeye.  Warpath takes care of Cap'n America  iceman beat Spiderman  Hepizibah and Dazzler trashes Black Widow  Cyclops strikes optic blasts to hit Spiderwoman then strikes other avenegers members too.   X-men wins this. "

Ironman will not be held by Colossus and X-23. His strength out matches both of them. You don't have any proof that they will even be able to react to Thor. I've already shown that he can move far beyond human comprehension(that includes telepaths). You honesty think that Thor would let Wolverine get that close? All Thor has to do it use his hammer to one shot Wolverine to the next galaxy. Captain America has years of experience Warpath has how many? Now I'm not saying that it would be easy but Cap could take him. I agree with the iceman part as well as Dazzler and cat girl. Spider-Woman can use those nifty pheromones to make Scott fall completely in love with her.
 
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Colossus is categorized 100 ton class strength. Iron Man is not unless he's gonna use hie best suit here. So Colossus can hug Iron Man, and x-23 will stab and slice him. Wolverine will be able to get close because Emma and Psylocke are giving Thor a busy day. Cap'n America is a human on peak level only, comparing him to Warpath who is definitely stronger and faster and more durable than him. "

" @rbysjti said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

"  @rbysjti said:

" Northstar is perhaps faster than Iron Man so either he takes Colossus wand x-23 with him or Pixie can teleport both Colossus and x-23 to be able to hold Iron Man then surely, Iron Man will be beaten.  Psylocke and Emma will take down Thor with Archangel carrying Wolvie to slice Thor Armor beats Hawkeye.  Warpath takes care of Cap'n America  iceman beat Spiderman  Hepizibah and Dazzler trashes Black Widow  Cyclops strikes optic blasts to hit Spiderwoman then strikes other avenegers members too.   X-men wins this. "

Ironman will not be held by Colossus and X-23. His strength out matches both of them. You don't have any proof that they will even be able to react to Thor. I've already shown that he can move far beyond human comprehension(that includes telepaths). You honesty think that Thor would let Wolverine get that close? All Thor has to do it use his hammer to one shot Wolverine to the next galaxy. Captain America has years of experience Warpath has how many? Now I'm not saying that it would be easy but Cap could take him. I agree with the iceman part as well as Dazzler and cat girl. Spider-Woman can use those nifty pheromones to make Scott fall completely in love with her.
 
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Colossus is categorized 100 ton class strength. Iron Man is not unless he's gonna use hie best suit here. So Colossus can hug Iron Man, and x-23 will stab and slice him. Wolverine will be able to get close because Emma and Psylocke are giving Thor a busy day. Cap'n America is a human on peak level only, comparing him to Warpath who is definitely stronger and faster and more durable than him. "

 But do you really think that IM would allow them to get that close? His speed(reflexes and agility) is comparable to that of Spider-Man.And he even has his own spider sense. And you forget that Im has a shield that can withstand nukes at half power. So nobody is going to "hug" IM.. The day Emma and Psylocke give Thor trouble is the day Marvel needs to burn to the ground...The man can see BULLETS and is fast enough to dodge them and your telling me that he's going to loose against a teenager with basically no experience when compared to Cap? I don't think so. "

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @rbysjti said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

"  @rbysjti said:

" Northstar is perhaps faster than Iron Man so either he takes Colossus wand x-23 with him or Pixie can teleport both Colossus and x-23 to be able to hold Iron Man then surely, Iron Man will be beaten.  Psylocke and Emma will take down Thor with Archangel carrying Wolvie to slice Thor Armor beats Hawkeye.  Warpath takes care of Cap'n America  iceman beat Spiderman  Hepizibah and Dazzler trashes Black Widow  Cyclops strikes optic blasts to hit Spiderwoman then strikes other avenegers members too.   X-men wins this. "

Ironman will not be held by Colossus and X-23. His strength out matches both of them. You don't have any proof that they will even be able to react to Thor. I've already shown that he can move far beyond human comprehension(that includes telepaths). You honesty think that Thor would let Wolverine get that close? All Thor has to do it use his hammer to one shot Wolverine to the next galaxy. Captain America has years of experience Warpath has how many? Now I'm not saying that it would be easy but Cap could take him. I agree with the iceman part as well as Dazzler and cat girl. Spider-Woman can use those nifty pheromones to make Scott fall completely in love with her.
 
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Colossus is categorized 100 ton class strength. Iron Man is not unless he's gonna use hie best suit here. So Colossus can hug Iron Man, and x-23 will stab and slice him. Wolverine will be able to get close because Emma and Psylocke are giving Thor a busy day. Cap'n America is a human on peak level only, comparing him to Warpath who is definitely stronger and faster and more durable than him. "

 But do you really think that IM would allow them to get that close? His speed(reflexes and agility) is comparable to that of Spider-Man.And he even has his own spider sense. And you forget that Im has a shield that can withstand nukes at half power. So nobody is going to "hug" IM.. The day Emma and Psylocke give Thor trouble is the day Marvel needs to burn to the ground...The man can see BULLETS and is fast enough to dodge them and your telling me that he's going to loose against a teenager with basically no experience when compared to Cap? I don't think so. "

Like what I've said before, Northstar will make sure Colossus can get a hold on  Iron Man by carrying him. I know it'll slow down Northstar but I believe he's still fast enough to catch Iron masn even he's carrying Colossus with him. But Emma and Psylocke can use their telepathic powers to take  him down or at least  just not allow thor to do anthing. "

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@son of storm 
 i personally don't have a scan of the Eve of Destruction story arc but that was the tactic she and Jean used against Magneto... the solid light hologram also noted in her profile here at the vine. 
she also demonstrated this hologram abilities in her regular series.  

" @son of storm  i personally don't have a scan of the Eve of Destruction story arc but that was the tactic she and Jean used against Magneto... the solid light hologram also noted in her profile here at the vine. she also demonstrated this hologram abilities in her regular series.   "

x-men will win they got emma who can take out most of the avengers the only threat to the x-men is thor

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umm pixie has access to limbo....bye, bye iron man.
northstar's punches have hurt the hulk, so i think they could hurt thor.  also, i think emma and elizabeth could mess with his head taking him out of the fight.

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None of the Avengers above ( except for IronMan ) have immunity to telepathy.  Even then Thor can take out Ironman like in the JMS issue when they were in NO.

" umm pixie has access to limbo....bye, bye iron man. northstar's punches have hurt the hulk, so i think they could hurt thor.  also, i think emma and elizabeth could mess with his head taking him out of the fight. "

" @Son Of Storm: they illusions don't act on their own. and dazzler's uniform helps her store sound so she has quite a bit stored usually. so charging is not much of a problem.  and the illusion does not drain her much. "

" @Son Of Storm: if iron man uses a sonic attack it is just going to power up dazzler. "

northstar can travel at the speed of light.   i'm unsure of thor's speed, but i think northstar is faster. 
and there are plenty of people to keep Iron Man busy.  The Xmen never let pixie out in the front.

If the X-men had prep and took the Avengers by surprise, then I guess it'd be reasonable to give the battle to them, but in a random encounter, the Avengers own.

" northstar can travel at the speed of light.   i'm unsure of thor's speed, but i think northstar is faster.  and there are plenty of people to keep Iron Man busy.  The Xmen never let pixie out in the front. "

" @Son Of Storm: as far as dazzler's holograms.  just read the Dazzler #1 just released.   Sorry I have no scanne. "

" @Son Of Storm: actually sound attacks don't work on dazzler because she automatically absorbs them.  and she could block him with a light shield. she is a lot more powerful than most people give her credit for. one dazzle blast and most of the avengers would be down. and all of those x-men could down iron man. "

" @Son Of Storm: sonic attacks have no affect on dazzler, they just power her.  she also can burn very, very bright.  enough to melt iron man's armor.  especially if he just tried to attack her with sonics. "

@nicknicholby said:

" @Son Of Storm: sonic attacks have no affect on dazzler, they just power her.  she also can burn very, very bright.  enough to melt iron man's armor.  especially if he just tried to attack her with sonics. "

Not current Iron Man armor.  If he can take shots from a slightly pissed off Thor then he can take a lightshow.  The only equilizer on the X-men is Iceman and Emma.  There the only reason the X-men will win

" @Son Of Storm: well dazzler made a solid light hologram that was strong enough to take on members of the captain britain corps. so i think she could give him a hard time. plus with all the avengers out besides him there are numerous ways for him to get taken down. psylocke could mess with his systems telekinetically. "

" @Son Of Storm: is thor currently in possesion of the rune stones?  i know they were part of the power bestowed on the avengers in the end of siege, but is he still in possesion of them?  cause thats how he achieved X3 light speed. "