Given that it's been stated and proven that for all there powers, most Wizards are still just as vulnerable to nonmagical damage as anyone else, I'm going to say they both get taken out rather quickly. Note: Provided this is a Voldemort with Horcruxes, he survives as that ghastly ethereal thing, but not able to do a whole lot as the bugs swarm across the globe, killing everything in their path, including any Horcruxes he might have hidden in living things, such as his snake.
Given that it's been stated and proven that for all there powers, most Wizards are still just as vulnerable to nonmagical damage as anyone else, I'm going to say they both get taken out rather quickly. Note: Provided this is a Voldemort with Horcruxes, he survives as that ghastly ethereal thing, but not able to do a whole lot as the bugs swarm across the globe, killing everything in their path, including any Horcruxes he might have hidden in living things, such as his snake.
I still believe it's anyone's game.
Here is a a non bias scenario that doesn't pick sides just uses knowledge on these characters.
The Queen Mothers and the Queens have telepathy and empathic abilities. Like when she effortlessly melded the minds of Humans during the infestation of Earth. However someone could argue (Im not arguing this, it's just a valid argument) that with 8 hours prep Voldemort and Dumbledore could do some Occulmency which would prevent the Queens from penetrating their minds. One could also argue that Voldemort could use Legilimens to penetrate the Queen mother's and the Queen's mind and use them like puppets to attack there own children. Once again, this is not my arguement, this is a legit argument.
One could argue Avada Kedavra could use used to take out a few Xenomorphs. And if the Xenomorphs tried to jump on Dumbledore or Voldemort at thought they could teleport.
One could validly argue that spells would do nothing to the mass of xenomorphs, and when Dumbledore and Voldemort are being flooded by facehuggers, drones, Xenomorphs, etc they are screwed. Valid argument.
However one could also argue that Dumbledore could create a cloud and ball of fire to burn them all to a crisp, Exhibit A:
One could argue that would hold back Xenomorphs.
One could also argue that if acid injures Dumbledore or hits him fast enough he'll be down and they'll rush in and eat him. Valid argument.
One could argue a facehugger could get Dumbledore.
One could also argue that Dumbledore can drench the Xenomorphs in water and then quickly freeze it to ice.
There's tons of arguments these are just to get a gist of it. I am looking forward for these arguments to be on the thread, it's anyone's game.
Xenomorph Queen's will stomp this due to telepathy
As I said about telepathy in my new post, one could argue Occulmency that shields your minds from mental assaults and legilimency could block those Telepathic assaults which are mental.
Xenomorph Queen's will stomp this due to telepathy
As I said about telepathy in my new post, one could argue Occulmency that shields your minds from mental assaults and legilimency could block those Telepathic assaults which are mental.
That could be a variable in this fight which makes me ponder on the question of who is the highest level telepathic that either Voldemort and Dumbledore has prevented for probing their minds? And what has this said "telepathic" accomplished with their telepathy?
Xenomorph Queen's will stomp this due to telepathy
As I said about telepathy in my new post, one could argue Occulmency that shields your minds from mental assaults and legilimency could block those Telepathic assaults which are mental.
That could be a variable in this fight which makes me ponder on the question of who is the highest level telepathic that either Voldemort and Dumbledore has prevented for probing their minds? And what has this said "telepathic" accomplished with their telepathy?
While there are not many telepathy feats in HP (Talking to someone in their mind) I can not say much. I can say Voldemort created a telepathic link between him and Harry and had the ability to possess Harry at any time he wanted.
However, if you mean reading minds and agressive use Telepathy, Legilimens can be used for both of them. Legilimency can be used to peer into someone's thoughts, possess them, bring their minds under mental attack, mind control etc.
So I can not say much on telepathy, but I can say the agressive/mind control telepathy the Queens can use, going by HP standards, can be shielded out by Occulmency. The only really telepathic showing in HP is Voldermort and harry's link.
Snape tried to teach Harry occulemncy, but Harry simply couldn't get loose from Voldemort's grip. Im sure if Snape can use mental assaults (dark arts) then Voldemort who is supreme master of the Dark Arts can do the same.
So, I am sure it's safe to say Occulmency would block out any telepathic assault.
Xenomorph Queen's will stomp this due to telepathy
As I said about telepathy in my new post, one could argue Occulmency that shields your minds from mental assaults and legilimency could block those Telepathic assaults which are mental.
That could be a variable in this fight which makes me ponder on the question of who is the highest level telepathic that either Voldemort and Dumbledore has prevented for probing their minds? And what has this said "telepathic" accomplished with their telepathy?
While there are not many telepathy feats in HP (Talking to someone in their mind) I can not say much. I can say Voldemort created a telepathic link between him and Harry and had the ability to possess Harry at any time he wanted.
However, if you mean reading minds and agressive use Telepathy, Legilimens can be used for both of them. Legilimency can be used to peer into someone's thoughts, possess them, bring their minds under mental attack, mind control etc.
So I can not say much on telepathy, but I can say the agressive/mind control telepathy the Queens can use, going by HP standards, can be shielded out by Occulmency. The only really telepathic showing in HP is Voldermort and harry's link.
Snape tried to teach Harry occulemncy, but Harry simply couldn't get loose from Voldemort's grip. Im sure if Snape can use mental assaults (dark arts) then Voldemort who is supreme master of the Dark Arts can do the same.
So, I am sure it's safe to say Occulmency would block out any telepathic assault.
I don't see how Occulmency is applicable here when it's primary application is against spells that probe the mind; the Queen's telepathy is not of a supernatural nature, but rather a biological one. Would the Occulmency still offer protection against non-spell related assaults, and based off what I have seen via comics, the Queen's telepathy is extremely potent and far reaching. Could there be a possibility that the Queen would be able to sufficiently bypass the mental barrier erected by Occulmency due raw telepathic power? And how would Voldemort and Dumbledore fare against multiple telepathic attacks by several Queens?
I don't see how Occulmency is applicable here when it's primary application is against spells that probe the mind; the Queen's telepathy is not of a supernatural nature, but rather a biological one
I do not think Voldemort trying to enter Harry's mind and possess him is a spell. Occulmency is meant to shield the mind from outside influences/attacks. The Queen's telepathy is an outside influence. It can also prevent someone from accessing thoughts and feelings, or influencing those thoughts and or feelings. On that basic definition, it tells me that the Queen's telepathy would get blocked by Occlumency. If Dumbledore and Riddle hadn't prepped, I'd believe they'd be taken down easily with the telepathy. But Dumbledore and Voldemort have had time to shield their minds.
Would the Occulmency still offer protection against non-spell related assaults, and based off what I have seen via comics
Yes. Snape tried to prevent Voldemort from entering Harry's mind (not a spell) and possessing him. Occlumency provided that. So yes, Occlumency can be use against non-spell related, but it's main use it against Legilimens.
he Queen's telepathy is extremely potent and far reaching. Could there be a possibility that the Queen would be able to sufficiently bypass the mental barrier erected by Occulmency due raw telepathic power
Not sure. No one has passed Occlumency barrier before, espiscally the barrier of a trained master Occlumens (what Voldemort and Dumbledore are)
But if they do try to break it (which they could try to do is all of them combined focused) Dumbledore and Voldemort would feel a connection to their minds, so Voldemort would hit them with a Avada Kedavra and Dumbledore would try to freeze them to ice as they try to penetrate Dumbledore and Voldemort's minds. I can be wrong. Can you please show me some scans/quotes/anything of the Queen's telepathy?
And how would Voldemort and Dumbledore fare against multiple telepathic attacks by several Queens?
Depends. The Queen's most certainly can try to enter Dumbledore and Voldemort's minds, but it would be difficult through hours of ramped Occlumens casting done by the pair. If the Queen's try to go into Dumbledore and Voldemort's minds and both of them feel the connection to their mind that the Queen's are making, Voldemort could hit them with an Avada Kedavra and Dumbledore could use Levicorpus or a fiery rope around their necks. Dumbledore could also try to use a hydro-kinetic and attempt to trap the queens in watery prisions to drown them.
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