Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Battle takes place in a replica of Times Square, morals off, battle to death.
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution)vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
How in the hell does Evo Juggernaut win?? he got beat by teenage untrained X-Men.....twice and Mystique beats Morph....please, Morph after his recovery from death/mind control, was able to use the abilities of whoever he was imitating....Mystique could turn into owls......woot
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
How in the hell does Evo Juggernaut win?? he got beat by teenage untrained X-Men.....twice and Mystique beats Morph....please, Morph after his recovery from death/mind control, was able to use the abilities of whoever he was imitating....Mystique could turn into owls......woot
LOL...It's been a long time since I have watched the animated series but I don't recall that great of a showing for Juggernaut there. Plus,in that series he lost his powers to some nerd and was dying he had to saved by the x-men so he loses tough-guy points :-P. And IIRC, in evo they didn't reallt beat him in the first fight, they had to BFR him. And it took both the x-men and brotherhood to stop Juggernaut in the 2nd confrontation and they barely managed to get his helmet off in time for him to very nearly reach Xavier before Charles put him down. And hell yeah Mystique beats Morph. He died in the first story arc (heroically), and I don't recall him gaining the x-men's powers when sinister resurrected him??? He was a psychotic emotional wreck for the rest of his appearances. His best showing was his fight with Wolverine where he changed into a panther and a rhino and put some hurt on Logan. Mystique in evo was a bada$$ fighter, very clever, master manipulator and after she got enhanced, she beat down cyclops who needed to get saved (which I loved that episode >:-) ), blew up the x-mansion, kidnapped xavier and showed some crazy shapeshifting in the horseman of apoc story (i.e. -changing in dozens of snakes). I'd think she'd beat him down.
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
How in the hell does Evo Juggernaut win?? he got beat by teenage untrained X-Men.....twice and Mystique beats Morph....please, Morph after his recovery from death/mind control, was able to use the abilities of whoever he was imitating....Mystique could turn into owls......woot
LOL...It's been a long time since I have watched the animated series but I don't recall that great of a showing for Juggernaut there. Plus,in that series he lost his powers to some nerd and was dying he had to saved by the x-men so he loses tough-guy points :-P. And IIRC, in evo they didn't reallt beat him in the first fight, they had to BFR him. And it took both the x-men and brotherhood to stop Juggernaut in the 2nd confrontation and they barely managed to get his helmet off in time for him to very nearly reach Xavier before Charles put him down. And hell yeah Mystique beats Morph. He died in the first story arc (heroically), and I don't recall him gaining the x-men's powers when sinister resurrected him??? He was a psychotic emotional wreck for the rest of his appearances. His best showing was his fight with Wolverine where he changed into a panther and a rhino and put some hurt on Logan. Mystique in evo was a bada$$ fighter, very clever, master manipulator and after she got enhanced, she beat down cyclops who needed to get saved (which I loved that episode >:-) ), blew up the x-mansion, kidnapped xavier and showed some crazy shapeshifting in the horseman of apoc story (i.e. -changing in dozens of snakes). I'd think she'd beat him down.
While I am also thinking that Evolution Mystique can take down Morph, I have to disagree with some of the things you said: -In the episode where she beated the hell out of Cyclops, he was without his glasses or his visor, and kept his eyes closed for most of the fight. That means he couldn't see where Mystique is at all. Even so, he was able to defeat 3 bullies in this situation and to put up a nice fight against Mystique. Heck, I would even say he was able to beat her even if Jean hadn't come to the rescue. -She was able to blow up the institute only because no one tried to stop her, cause everyone thought she is Professor X at that time. But yeah, she had some badass moments, she was able to fight Mangeto in a room full of metals, she was able to kidnap Xavier without anyone knowing, she was able to take down Cyclops easily and give Wolverine a hell of a fight in the Apocalypse story arc.
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
How in the hell does Evo Juggernaut win?? he got beat by teenage untrained X-Men.....twice and Mystique beats Morph....please, Morph after his recovery from death/mind control, was able to use the abilities of whoever he was imitating....Mystique could turn into owls......woot
LOL...It's been a long time since I have watched the animated series but I don't recall that great of a showing for Juggernaut there. Plus,in that series he lost his powers to some nerd and was dying he had to saved by the x-men so he loses tough-guy points :-P. And IIRC, in evo they didn't reallt beat him in the first fight, they had to BFR him. And it took both the x-men and brotherhood to stop Juggernaut in the 2nd confrontation and they barely managed to get his helmet off in time for him to very nearly reach Xavier before Charles put him down. And hell yeah Mystique beats Morph. He died in the first story arc (heroically), and I don't recall him gaining the x-men's powers when sinister resurrected him??? He was a psychotic emotional wreck for the rest of his appearances. His best showing was his fight with Wolverine where he changed into a panther and a rhino and put some hurt on Logan. Mystique in evo was a bada$$ fighter, very clever, master manipulator and after she got enhanced, she beat down cyclops who needed to get saved (which I loved that episode >:-) ), blew up the x-mansion, kidnapped xavier and showed some crazy shapeshifting in the horseman of apoc story (i.e. -changing in dozens of snakes). I'd think she'd beat him down.
dude Morphs last appearance he turns into Longshot and Omega Red and solos a group of sentinels....Mystique is doomed
Here is an image of him ripping off a sentinels head as Sasquatch...but wait, watch out,.....Mystique can become snakes!!
I honestly don't think anyone from TAS could defeat their Evolution opponent...
Well, Magneto doesn't have his shield in Evolution, this makes him vulnerable much more than the TAS version of Magneto
Not really, against an opponent who can control the same thing a shield would be pointless, it would come down to better control and Evolution Magneto has way better showings of range and power.
Magneto (Evolution) vs Magneto (The Animated Series) Professor X. (Evolution) vs Professor X. (The Animated Series) Toad (Evolution) vs Jubilee (The Animated Series) Juggernaut (Evolution) vs Juggernaut (The Animated Series) Scarlet Witch (Evolution) vs Scarlet Witch (The Animated Series) Mystique (Evolution) vs Morph (The Animated Series)
How in the hell does Evo Juggernaut win?? he got beat by teenage untrained X-Men.....twice and Mystique beats Morph....please, Morph after his recovery from death/mind control, was able to use the abilities of whoever he was imitating....Mystique could turn into owls......woot
LOL...It's been a long time since I have watched the animated series but I don't recall that great of a showing for Juggernaut there. Plus,in that series he lost his powers to some nerd and was dying he had to saved by the x-men so he loses tough-guy points :-P. And IIRC, in evo they didn't reallt beat him in the first fight, they had to BFR him. And it took both the x-men and brotherhood to stop Juggernaut in the 2nd confrontation and they barely managed to get his helmet off in time for him to very nearly reach Xavier before Charles put him down. And hell yeah Mystique beats Morph. He died in the first story arc (heroically), and I don't recall him gaining the x-men's powers when sinister resurrected him??? He was a psychotic emotional wreck for the rest of his appearances. His best showing was his fight with Wolverine where he changed into a panther and a rhino and put some hurt on Logan. Mystique in evo was a bada$$ fighter, very clever, master manipulator and after she got enhanced, she beat down cyclops who needed to get saved (which I loved that episode >:-) ), blew up the x-mansion, kidnapped xavier and showed some crazy shapeshifting in the horseman of apoc story (i.e. -changing in dozens of snakes). I'd think she'd beat him down.
dude Morphs last appearance he turns into Longshot and Omega Red and solos a group of sentinels....Mystique is doomed
Here is an image of him ripping off a sentinels head as Sasquatch...but wait, watch out,.....Mystique can become snakes!!
That doesn't necessarily mean he got their powers, he could have turned into a big guy to gain strength from his mass and turned into a guy with wings to fly. Mystique could do the same by turning into a giant gorilla or some other sort of massive creature to gain strength and a bird or hawk to fly. She is after all, able to shape-shift into Wolverine and use fake metal claws, but not necessarily gain his mutant healing ability. It was never confirmed that he could obtain some sort of new psionic power such as Storm's or Jean's when he shape shifted into them. Longshots is debatable though, but he could have turned into him to gain physical agility and not necessarily his actual luck powers.
That doesn't necessarily mean he got their powers, he could have turned into a big guy to gain strength from his mass and turned into a guy with wings to fly. Mystique could do the same by turning into a giant gorilla or some other sort of massive creature to gain strength and a bird or hawk to fly. She is after all, able to shape-shift into Wolverine and use fake metal claws, but not necessarily gain his mutant healing ability. It was never confirmed that he could obtain some sort of new psionic power such as Storm's or Jean's when he shape shifted into them. Longshots is debatable though, but he could have turned into him to gain physical agility and not necessarily his actual luck powers.
I don't think the writers and animators were saying "hey, lets leave Morphs showings open ended" lol, he was clearly using agility he has never shown when appearing as Longshot, using tendrils as Omega Red and using super strength as Sasquatch, similar to Copycat. I think it was pretty obvious
That doesn't necessarily mean he got their powers, he could have turned into a big guy to gain strength from his mass and turned into a guy with wings to fly. Mystique could do the same by turning into a giant gorilla or some other sort of massive creature to gain strength and a bird or hawk to fly. She is after all, able to shape-shift into Wolverine and use fake metal claws, but not necessarily gain his mutant healing ability. It was never confirmed that he could obtain some sort of new psionic power such as Storm's or Jean's when he shape shifted into them. Longshots is debatable though, but he could have turned into him to gain physical agility and not necessarily his actual luck powers.
I don't think the writers and animators were saying "hey, lets leave Morphs showings open ended" lol, he was clearly using agility he has never shown when appearing as Longshot, using tendrils as Omega Red and using super strength as Sasquatch, similar to Copycat. I think it was pretty obvious
But it's still similar to Mystique turning into Wolverine with his claws without necessarily gaining his actual mutant ability. For Omega Red I'm sure Mystique could do the same. And Morph was not physically fit in his normal form like Longshot, who was perhaps at the peak of his agility physically. So it would make sense for him to turn into him to gain the peak potential of his agility.
And I think it makes much more sense that he was gaining physical abilities and not actual mutant abilities considering the people he turned into. A big guy for strength, a physically fit guy for agility and speed, and guy with wings to fly, and Omega Red for the tendrils(which aren't even his mutant powers). None of those characters really have any outward mutant abilities to really confirm that he was in fact gaining their mutant powers.
Otherwise he could have turned into Magneto and wiped the room clean if that were the case.
Also the Juggernaut argument is strange, in Evolution he would get knocked around by Blob and Avalanche manipulating earth, Rogue with some of his power beat on him
albeit Juggernaut in TAS was inconsistent, he was mainly unharmed by any attacks and Rogue couldn't absorb him (too much power), and could pretty much punch a tank in mid air which then, flew quite a distance
ended" lol, he was clearly using agility he has never shown when appearing as Longshot, using tendrils as Omega Red and using super strength as Sasquatch, similar to Copycat. I think it was pretty obvious
But it's still similar to Mystique turning into Wolverine with his claws without necessarily gaining his actual mutant ability. For Omega Red I'm sure Mystique could do the same. And Morph was not physically fit in his normal form like Longshot, who was perhaps at the peak of his agility physically. So it would make sense for him to turn into him to gain the peak potential of his agility. And I think it makes much more sense that he was gaining physical abilities and not actual mutant abilities considering the people he turned into. A big guy for strength, a physically fit guy for agility and speed, and guy with wings to fly, and Omega Red for the tendrils(which aren't even his mutant powers). None of those characters really have any outward mutant abilities to really confirm that he was in fact gaining their mutant powers. Otherwise he could have turned into Magneto and wiped the room clean if that were the case.
Longshots luck was pretty obvious as he was dodging the laser blasts....why would they have him turn into Longshot just for agility??
and the second thing you said doesn't make sense, he got their mutant physical abilities....but not their powers??
Super strength is Sasquatchs mutant power and changing into a Sasquatch of course,
I respect your argument, but do you really believe the writers of the series put that much thought into this??
Also the Juggernaut argument is strange, in Evolution he would get knocked around by Blob and Avalanche manipulating earth, Rogue with some of his power beat on him albeit Juggernaut in TAS was inconsistent, he was mainly unharmed by any attacks and Rogue couldn't absorb him (too much power), and could pretty much punch a tank in mid air which then, flew quite a distance
TAS Juggernaut was also knocked through a building several times by rogue before she gained some of his strength and easily tossed around by Gladiator when he couldn't match his strength. Blob ran into Evo Jug from behind when he was distracted and he still turned around and knocked Fred on his backside a second later. The only thing I will give is that Rogue was able to absorb him but that Rogue was also fatigued after doing so.
Evolution Juggernaut was far more impressive though, able to knock over an entire running train with a small tap and resist Jean from picking him up with her tk and tanking a visor off blast from Cyclops. He was also able to survive being phased into a wall by kitty, so he was quite durable and physically strong. I think Evolution Juggernaut could BFR him.
ended" lol, he was clearly using agility he has never shown when appearing as Longshot, using tendrils as Omega Red and using super strength as Sasquatch, similar to Copycat. I think it was pretty obvious
But it's still similar to Mystique turning into Wolverine with his claws without necessarily gaining his actual mutant ability. For Omega Red I'm sure Mystique could do the same. And Morph was not physically fit in his normal form like Longshot, who was perhaps at the peak of his agility physically. So it would make sense for him to turn into him to gain the peak potential of his agility. And I think it makes much more sense that he was gaining physical abilities and not actual mutant abilities considering the people he turned into. A big guy for strength, a physically fit guy for agility and speed, and guy with wings to fly, and Omega Red for the tendrils(which aren't even his mutant powers). None of those characters really have any outward mutant abilities to really confirm that he was in fact gaining their mutant powers. Otherwise he could have turned into Magneto and wiped the room clean if that were the case.
Longshots luck was pretty obvious as he was dodging the laser blasts....why would they have him turn into Longshot just for agility?? and the second thing you said doesn't make sense, he got their mutant physical abilities....but not their powers?? Super strength is Sasquatchs mutant power and changing into a Sasquatch of course, I respect your argument, but do you really believe the writers of the series put that much thought into this??
Because longshot was physically fit for agility, which would make sense, If all you can do is gain their physical abilities. And the second thing I said makes perfect sense, Mystique can change physically into characters such as Sabretooth or Wolverine with metal claws without obtaining their actual healing factor. Shapeshifting only allows her to copy the appearance, not the actual mutant power, even if this persons appearance is caused by a mutation. Sasquatch was a pretty big guy, so turning into him would give any shapeshifter physical mass for strength even if it's not his actual super strength, which is my point.
And I think they gave morph the same powers as Mystique honestly, he never showed anything that Mystique couldn't do, which is my point.
TAS Juggernaut was also knocked through a building several times by rogue before she gained some of his strength and easily tossed around by Gladiator when he couldn't match his strength. Blob ran into Evo Jug from behind when he was distracted and he still turned around and knocked Fred on his backside a second later. The only thing I will give is that Rogue was able to absorb him but that Rogue was also fatigued after doing so. Evolution Juggernaut was far more impressive though, able to knock over an entire running train with a small tap and resist Jean from picking him up with her tk and tanking a visor off blast from Cyclops. He was also able to survive being phased into a wall by kitty, so he was quite durable and physically strong. I think Evolution Juggernaut could BFR him.
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Because longshot was physically fit for agility, which would make sense, If all you can do is gain their physical abilities. And the second thing I said makes perfect sense, Mystique can change physically into characters such as Sabretooth or Wolverine with metal claws without obtaining their actual healing fact. Shapeshifting only allows her to copy the appearence, not the actual mutant power, even if this persons appearance is caused by a mutation. Sasquatch was a pretty big guy, so turning into him would give any shapeshifter physical mass for strength even if it's not his actual super strength, which is my point. And I think they gave morph the same powers as Mystique honestly, he never showed anything that Mystique couldn't do, which is my point.
1. Juggernaut had buildings dropped on him and Rogue was a lot stronger than normal in her TAS appearance, X-men Evo were a lot weaker, and it's not like he just pranced right through Cyclops full blast, he struggled,
2. I still don't get the argument here, so Morph can use the super strength of Sasquatch, thats it right there...whats the strongest thing Mystique changed into.... a wolf?
@Storm Calling: 1. Juggernaut had buildings dropped on him and Rogue was a lot stronger than normal in her TAS appearance, X-men Evo were a lot weaker, and it's not like he just pranced right through Cyclops full blast, he struggled,
I think being phased through a wall beats the building being dropped on him. It's the ultimate test of durability. He was also knocked back from the force of the blast, that was all. After that first second that he was surprised by the increased amount of sudden power, he was immediately able to recover and tank the blast all the way back to Cyclops, until he closed his eyes with his bare hand.
2. I still don't get the argument here, so Morph can use the super strength of Sasquatch, thats it right there...whats the strongest thing Mystique changed into.... a wolf
He could have gained the strength from his physical mass, not from a mutant ability. Sasquatch could have been alot stronger than that. My point is Mystique could turn into Sasquatch and also gain this same physical strength from the mass.
@Storm Calling: 1. Juggernaut had buildings dropped on him and Rogue was a lot stronger than normal in her TAS appearance, X-men Evo were a lot weaker, and it's not like he just pranced right through Cyclops full blast, he struggled,
I think being phased through a wall beats the building being dropped on him. It's the ultimate test of durability. He was also knocked back from the force of the blast, that was all. After that first second that he was surprised by the increased amount of sudden power, he was immediately able to recover and tank the blast all the way back to Cyclops, until he closed his eyes with his bare hand.
2. I still don't get the argument here, so Morph can use the super strength of Sasquatch, thats it right there...whats the strongest thing Mystique changed into.... a wolf
He could have gained the strength from his physical mass, not from a mutant ability. Sasquatch could have been alot stronger than that. My point is Mystique could turn into Sasquatch and also gain this same physical strength from the mass.
Rogue with no super strength drains a bit of his power Then, with the limited training and a portion of Juggs abilities, she handles him Clearly not affected
fights Hulk
and c'mon man....Mystique can just turn into Sasquatch....you can't just pull feats out of thin air...she never di anything of that magnitude, she turned into bats and birds and people, she also got beat by Cyclops with his eyes closed..didn't she??
Morph beat Wolverine physically and broke his spirit mentally and emotionally with his shifting, and soloed sentinels....better feats than Evo Mystique
@cattlebattle: That's because Juggernaut in Evolution was a mutant, unlike TAS who had the Cytorrak powers. Plus this makes no difference considering neither one of these characters can drain the powers from each other like Rogue did. Punch for punch, Evolution Juggernaut could tank TAS Juggernauts physical attacks.
That's not the Hulk he's fighting, it's a robot from the danger room.
Mystique, infiltrated heavily guarded area 51 bases single handed and has escaped from them. Walked into the X-men mansion undetected and blew it up and was able to physically hold her own with Magneto and Storm in hand to hand combat without her shapeshifting abilities while they used their powers. Morph though skilled, is no where near as smart and skilled as Mystique is, even with his shapeshifting abilites. There is nothing that he can shapeshift into that Mystique couldn't match it with. Her battle with Cyclops was also not as simple as it seems.
He wasn't blinded truly and facing her without his power, as he was smart enough to use his hearing and blast into the direction he heard her coming from. In physical H2h she easily whooped his tail.
@cattlebattle: That's because Juggernaut in Evolution was a mutant, unlike TAS who had the Cytorrak powers. Plus this makes no difference considering neither one of these characters can drain the powers from each other like Rogue did. Punch for punch, Evolution Juggernaut could tank TAS Juggernauts physical attacks. That's not the Hulk he's fighting, it's a robot from the danger room. Mystique, infiltrated heavily guarded area 51 bases single handed and has escaped from them. Walked into the X-men mansion undetected and blew it up and was able to physically hold her own with Magneto and Storm in hand to hand combat without her shapeshifting abilities while they used their powers. Morph though skilled, is no where near as smart and skilled as Mystique is, even with his shapeshifting abilites. There is nothing that he can shapeshift into that Mystique couldn't match it with. Her battle with Cyclops was also not as simple as it seems. He wasn't blinded truly and facing her without his power, as he was smart enough to use his hearing and blast into the direction he heard her coming from. In physical H2h she easily whooped his tail.
Was it a danger room robot?? LOL, I thought it was an image from a memory while the professor was in his mind
Comparing Juggs is ridiculous in my opinion, Evo Juggs was wailed on by teenagers and lost , he was knocked off his feet and defeated by low level feat X-Men
Tas Juggs was never even remotely phased by any attack the X-Men threw at him, Tas X-Men were overpowered significantly especially Rogue and had to rely on Telepathy or his powers disappearing, How do you know that Rogue wasn't able to absorb him because he was magical, it was never stated...she couldn't handle his raw power or his damaged psyche
Mystique being undetected was part of her power enhancements, it wasn't like she was able to do that on her own powerset, Morph also infiltrated the X-Mansion and turned into chaos, She has done nothing remotely close to soloing sentinels, or besting a much more formidable Wolverine....Mystique maybe physically superior, but whats to stop Morph from turning into Longshot
Nah it was definitely from when Juggernaut invaded the mansion from the Juggernaut returns episode. I recently watched the show on dvd.
TAS Juggs was wailed on by the X-men as well. Rogue knocked him through several walls and even Jubilee was able to surprise him for a second or two with her attacks. None of the X-men really did any damage to either Juggernaut. In the end he was defeated by BFR or Telepathy.
And I pointed out Juggernaut's mystical abilities compared to EVO Juggernaut because it was established that his power was supplied from Cyttorak, while Juggernaut from EVO was a mutant who's abilities were awakened with mysticism. In the end his power is much more compatible to be absorbed by Rogue compared to TAS Juggernaut, who wasn't even a mutant at all. This isn't a matter of durability or a vulnerability in a battle between the two considering neither one has the power to absorb the others. So I do believe it's safe to make an assumption about why her absorption worked on EVO Juggernaut compared to TAS.
Regardless to what the power enhancements were that Mystique had, she did it. Morph tried to infiltrate the X-men in TAS and was instantly busted by Wolverine. And I could easily debate that Evolution Storm and Magneto could easily solo those sentinels faster than it took them to defeat Mystique. So at the very least her holding her own with those characters can be used to level out this debate between how impressive she is in combat. As for Morph beating Wolverine, it wasn't anything like that. Wolverine wasn't even trying to fight him.
And if Morph turned into Longshot then what's to stop Raven from doing the same thing?
@cattlebattle: Nah it was definitely from when Juggernaut invaded the mansion from the Juggernaut returns episode. I recently watched the show on dvd. TAS Juggs was wailed on by the X-men as well. Rogue knocked him through several walls and even Jubilee was able to surprise him for a second or two with her attacks. None of the X-men really did any damage to either Juggernaut. In the end he was defeated by BFR or Telepathy. And I pointed out Juggernaut's mystical abilities compared to EVO Juggernaut because it was established that his power was supplied from Cyttorak, while Juggernaut from EVO was a mutant who's abilities were awakened with mysticism. In the end his power is much more compatible to be absorbed by Rogue compared to TAS Juggernaut, who wasn't even a mutant at all. This isn't a matter of durability or a vulnerability in a battle between the two considering neither one has the power to absorb the others. So I do believe it's safe to make an assumption about why her absorption worked on EVO Juggernaut compared to TAS. Regardless to what the power enhancements were that Mystique had, she did it. Morph tried to infiltrate the X-men in TAS and was instantly busted by Wolverine. And I could easily debate that Evolution Storm and Magneto could easily solo those sentinels faster than it took them to defeat Mystique. So at the very least her holding her own with those characters can be used to level out this debate between how impressive she is in combat. As for Morph beating Wolverine, it wasn't anything like that. Wolverine wasn't even trying to fight him. And if Morph turned into Longshot then what's to stop Raven from doing the same thing?
Rogue threw Juggernaut through a window, not hit him, and Evo Juggernaut was knocked down by several attacks and stuck in a wall for a little bit...the fact that Tas Juggs could even not be harmed by a super powered Rogue should say enough,
I am still not hearing any feats that put Mystique above Morph, your just fishing with comparing what other characters could do, or what she could do, and Morph was in the Mansion quite a while before Wolverine busted him, Mystique is impressive in h2h, never seen any shifting feats that put her above Morph,
@cattlebattle: Rogue threw him through a building and another time knocked him through several walls and he was stuck in there for a little bit. EVO Juggernaut was phased through a wall and left there but instantly was able to get out of that. Both Rogue's had absorption abilities, regardless to if one had Ms Marvels powers is irrelevant to the point about the two battling. Evo Juggernaut tanked missiles, trains, the danger room, all of the X-men and Brotherhood, and Cyclops Visor off blast. His physical durability could take anything TAS Juggernaut could dish, the only way he'd win is if Rogue dropped in to absorb him, which isn't going to happen in this battle.
I compared her battles with Storm and Magneto to Morph fighting the Sentinels, both Storm and Magneto could easily destroy those Sentinels alot easier then he did. Mytique was never busted by Wolverine when she invaded the mansion several times, she has never been caught except for once by Storm. Mystique h2h fighting skills put her above Morph who is inexperienced. He has nothing that he could turn into that Mystique couldn't copy or handle.
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