X-Men vs DC A battle to decide it all

@blacharrt said:

@IZZR said:

@blacharrt: Its called P.I.S genius

Don't claim P.i.s in the face of consistency, how many times has superman outsmarted brainiac? All of those situations could not have been P.I.S genius.

Since his intellect far supercedes superman's and his strength next to his ship is on par with supes it is most certainly P.I.S. just like black panther making Silver surfer hurt besides supes has tricked lex upon occassion now cmon if that aint P.I.S. then you need to start hitting them books again

@IZZR said:

@blacharrt: Its called P.I.S genius

Don't claim P.i.s in the face of consistency, how many times has superman outsmarted brainiac? All of those situations could not have been P.I.S genius.

@blacharrt said:

@IZZR said:

@blacharrt: Its called P.I.S genius

Don't claim P.i.s in the face of consistency, how many times has superman outsmarted brainiac? All of those situations could not have been P.I.S genius.

Why don't you tell me?  I'd like for you to list at least one issue where a human outsmarted Brainiac. 

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@blacharrt said:

@IZZR said:

@blacharrt: Its called P.I.S genius

Don't claim P.i.s in the face of consistency, how many times has superman outsmarted brainiac? All of those situations could not have been P.I.S genius.

Why don't you tell me?  I'd like for you to list at least one issue where a human outsmarted Brainiac. 

Forget being outsmarted but hes trying to make Lex seem like some average person when Lex has done things no human in Marvel can even dream of and that includes Reed or Doom as Doom may have stolen galactus's power but Lex stole the source's power and has wielded the anti life equation if it were not for his reluctantness he would have done away with the universe on a coupel of occassions so you really need to get that biasness out your system

Im giving this one to Marvel

@IZZR:  i see you and Hohenheim  have been going back an forth in my absence.  1. lex taking the source's power is like doom somehow taking the living tribunal's power (no that didn't actually happen why because it's ridiculous), lex shouldn't be able to do that when he can't even beat superman. Just like Batman shouldn't be able to survive a blast from the omega beam but he can.  it's horrible writing.
@Hohenheim_of_light: I didn't say he was outsmarted by human but outsmarted by someone who was educated by human. As far as i know Superman is not a genius, yet he has consistently beat Lex, and Brainac who are either that or smarter.
 
Cyclop is not smarter than them, but the way he uses his resources in battle and his strategic mind in a fight that he is able to prep for puts him on even footing, but you're ignoring a lot of what i said and just focusing narrowly on the parts you don't like.  Cyclops would be the clear leader on marvel team who can pool all his resources, especially his ability to gather in tell and use that in tell effectively.  With the DC lineup, there are too many conflicting personality to even come up with a defined leader that everyone would listen to with the same effectiveness.
@spidey1fan: why are you people just focusing on Scott?

@IZZR:  i see you and Hohenheim  have been going back an forth in my absence.  1. lex taking the source's power is like doom somehow taking the living tribunal's power (no that didn't actually happen why because it's ridiculous), lex shouldn't be able to do that when he can't even beat superman. Just like Batman shouldn't be able to survive a blast from the omega beam but he can.  it's horrible writing.
@Hohenheim_of_light: I didn't say he was outsmarted by human but outsmarted by someone who was educated by human. As far as i know Superman is not a genius, yet he has consistently beat Lex, and Brainac who are either that or smarter.
 
Cyclop is not smarter than them, but the way he uses his resources in battle and his strategic mind in a fight that he is able to prep for puts him on even footing, but you're ignoring a lot of what i said and just focusing narrowly on the parts you don't like.  Cyclops would be the clear leader on marvel team who can pool all his resources, especially his ability to gather in tell and use that in tell effectively.  With the DC lineup, there are too many conflicting personality to even come up with a defined leader that everyone would listen to with the same effectiveness.
@spidey1fan: why are you people just focusing on Scott?

x-men...rogue can take zoom doomsday and darksieds powers...or wohevers..

@EpitomeofCool said:

x-men...rogue can take zoom doomsday and darksieds powers...or wohevers..

Yes and those people will have no powers or be injured =)

@blacharrt: I think your message was lost ... so I may revive it as you are arguing IMO the wrong way.  Yes cyclops prep ALONE isn't on par with batman, darkseid, lex luthor etc.     But cyclops as leader ... getting input from Xavier, magneto, Apocalypse, Mystique, mastermind, Mr. Sinister, Emma Frost ... and with the power houses Marvel has over DC ... I see Marvel winning this. BTW cyclops would not lead if xavier was in lineup.   With rogue taking 3 power house powers ... that is almost spite ... just taking zoom and doomsdays power takes out 95% of DC instantly.  Would be a good battle if rogue didn't get that option though.

@sandiego008 said:
with 2 weeks prep they can come up with something knowing rouge has these powers and cyclops will be a good leader on the battlefield but the prep factor helps DC alot in this.

@spidey1fan said:

@sandiego008 said:
with 2 weeks prep they can come up with something knowing rouge has these powers and cyclops will be a good leader on the battlefield but the prep factor helps DC alot in this.

Do you know how strong doomsday/zoom / darkseid are?  Alone they are a match for marvel no way they can take one person harnessing their power ... doomsday is ridiculously powerful with the ability to adapt other peoples power and near invulnerable ... add zooms speed to that and darkseids mind and omega power ... you are insane.  Any DC fanboy that admits DC wins in this battle means they admit that DC characters are weak (I know you aren't a dc fanboy based on your name spidey1fan ... figuratively speaking).  Rogue could almost solo this due to how much powers she absorbed from those 3 alone. Add phoenix ... just spite IMO. I like how zoom can solo anyone as long as they are marvel but when it becomes DC characters he can't do anything.  Like I said ... w/o rogue having powers ahead of time would be a better battle IMO.

@spidey1fan: That is a VERY huge assumption ... VERY VERY huge assumption and how are they going to remove it from someone that moves as fast as zoom, durable as doomsday and smart as darkseid?  Literally only one person has hope to removing it (zoom) and even then it is doubtful as she has doomsdays durability and is smart as heck ... not to mention omega ray ... and 2 weeks prep isn't a lot ... maybe a year ... but 2 weeks ... extremely doubtful from my standpoint.  I say xmen stomp ... year prep maybe close and xmen still win ... rogue is just to over powered here its ridiculous.  IMO of course ...

 xmen

  As i said that sound ridiculous, Doom had Galactus's power's but that was with prep his manipulation of science and magic.  Thanos was able to become that powerful only with the infinity gauntlets.  If the Source for DC was outsmarted or had his powers taken from him of his will, it would make the DC abstract very weak in comparison to Marvel.  Because it is damn near impossible for that to happen in marvel, also Galactus isn't an abstract he is necessary for the universe but he doesn't represent anything. 
  Actually given the circumstance, there would be much less conflict in listening to scott then you think, if he can get Namor, Emma, Sebastian Shaw, Xavier, Magneto, mystique to follow him he should have no trouble in convincing Apocalypse, who in turn will convince everyone else.  At the very least The villains on his team are logical and will do their parts.  DC however... Looking at the conflicting personalities, i don't see it working as well

Zoom solos everyone except Juggernaut. 

Marvel wins this in one of three ways:  
 
1) Their massive amount of psychic hootzpah turns DC's brains into a fine paste.   
2) Scarlet Witch says, "No more DC". 
3) The team enjoys some beer and pretzels while watching Rogue solo it.

i'm going to bump this for the hell of it

I would have to say X-Men take this.

I would have to say X-Men take this.

why would you put the Plot Device...i mean, Phoenix Force in this thread?? seriously

Who says Rogue can even take Doomsday and Darkseid's powers and even if she did she would be so overloaded with power that it might just kill her. Also remember she gets their thoughts and memories , how Is she going to deal with the pure evil of Darkseid in her head or the pain of millions of deaths that Doomsday has felt ??? She has almost lost her mind by touching far less complicated and powerful characters .

Who says Rogue can even take Doomsday and Darkseid's powers and even if she did she would be so overloaded with power that it might just kill her. Also remember she gets their thoughts and memories , how Is she going to deal with the pure evil of Darkseid in her head or the pain of millions of deaths that Doomsday has felt ??? She has almost lost her mind by touching far less complicated and powerful characters .

@Enosisik

Who says Rogue can even take Doomsday and Darkseid's powers and even if she did she would be so overloaded with power that it might just kill her. Also remember she gets their thoughts and memories , how Is she going to deal with the pure evil of Darkseid in her head or the pain of millions of deaths that Doomsday has felt ??? She has almost lost her mind by touching far less complicated and powerful characters .

The op says that she can have ANY of dc side powers.

Meh anytime you get this many characters involved it is moot as only 1-5 are relevant and they solo or win w/ the 1-5.

Meh anytime you get this many characters involved it is moot as only 1-5 are relevant and they solo or win w/ the 1-5.

Regardless of what the thread starter says it's against the characters ability. Might as well say what if cap can fly and is as strong as the hulk. How about any 3 that she COULD control? She might be able to handle supermans powers but Seid and doomsday , no way.

pheonix is too powerful, she is top 10 most powerful character in marvel. u should put somebody equally powerful from dc to even the odds

@kcaz: Hence Parallax.

I say Jean would take it.

But without her DC side stomps.

Marvel in a huge stomp.

@Dex_Starr said:

Zoom solos everyone except Juggernaut.

this

X-men win, do to Rouge being able to start with 3 of DC characters powers...which of i would pick Zoom, Darkseid and Doomsdays powers.