wolverine vs captain america
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
x-men vs avengers
avengers win all of the fights except kitty beats vision and colossus beats antman
"wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
Emma & Scarlet Witch=Emma
Phoenix & Thor=Thor
Cyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMP
Kitty & Vision=The Vision
Beast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMP
Colossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus
"starborn said:"wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
wolverine would hold back to much against cap and that would cause him to lose
theres no way emma could beat the scarlet witch c'mon she's a reality warper
kitty was trained by wolverine and disrupts any electronics when she phases through them...how does vision beat her
i agree with all the rest
"Vance Astro said:Wolverine (as far as I have seen) never held back against Cap.During Enemy of the State he didn't have a choice because he was brainwashed so he was bloodlusted against everyone."starborn said:"wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
wolverine would hold back to much against cap and that would cause him to lose
theres no way emma could beat the scarlet witch c'mon she's a reality warper
kitty was trained by wolverine and disrupts any electronics when she phases through them...how does vision beat her
i agree with all the rest"
Emma beats Scarlet Witch because she has very weak control of her powers.Emma could shut her mind down before she says anything.
How does Kitty phase through a genius super computer that can fly? You really think he's going to let that happen?
"starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus.
"danhimself said:you might be right about emma and scarlet witch but for some reason i think that wolverine would hold back against cap and i'm not sure why i think this....but kitty went toe to toe with wolverine back when he was apocalypse's horseman death add to the fact that she can phase through vision and shut him down i don't think he stands a chance"Vance Astro said:Wolverine (as far as I have seen) never held back against Cap.During Enemy of the State he didn't have a choice because he was brainwashed so he was bloodlusted against everyone."starborn said:"wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
wolverine would hold back to much against cap and that would cause him to lose
theres no way emma could beat the scarlet witch c'mon she's a reality warper
kitty was trained by wolverine and disrupts any electronics when she phases through them...how does vision beat her
i agree with all the rest"Emma beats Scarlet Witch because she has very weak control of her powers.Emma could shut her mind down before she says anything.How does Kitty phase through a genius super computer that can fly? You really think he's going to let that happen?"
"Vance Astro said:If he's Feral..he's worse of because he loses intellect."starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus."
Emma can shut down Wanda's mind before she does anything
I don't see Phoenix beating Thor.If Storm was hurting Dark Phoenix than Thorforce Thor would destroy her
How the hell does Kitty Curbstomp the Vision?
"Vance Astro said:Well alot of people hold back on Cap because they respect him.The Punisher not only held back but even refused to fight him at one point.Kitty's fighting skill means nothing.The Vision is way smarter than her and he has alot of powers for offense that will keep him out of harms way.If this is classic Vision it's a curbstomp."danhimself said:you might be right about emma and scarlet witch but for some reason i think that wolverine would hold back against cap and i'm not sure why i think this....but kitty went toe to toe with wolverine back when he was apocalypse's horseman death add to the fact that she can phase through vision and shut him down i don't think he stands a chance""Vance Astro said:Wolverine (as far as I have seen) never held back against Cap.During Enemy of the State he didn't have a choice because he was brainwashed so he was bloodlusted against everyone."starborn said:"wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
wolverine would hold back to much against cap and that would cause him to lose
theres no way emma could beat the scarlet witch c'mon she's a reality warper
kitty was trained by wolverine and disrupts any electronics when she phases through them...how does vision beat her
i agree with all the rest"Emma beats Scarlet Witch because she has very weak control of her powers.Emma could shut her mind down before she says anything.How does Kitty phase through a genius super computer that can fly? You really think he's going to let that happen?"
when you say "phoenix" are you talking phoenix power jean or jean using the codename phoenix but not actually having the phoenix force
"when you say "phoenix" are you talking phoenix power jean or jean using the codename phoenix but not actually having the phoenix force"It has to be Jean because the Phoenix Force was never an X-woman.
Wanda has the upper hand over Emma. An attack from Emma wouldn't be too efficient, seeing as how Dr. Strange and Professor X were discussing how Wanda was becoming resistant to mental treatments. Emma even said that she and Cyclops should be careful, cause Wanda could wipe them off the face of the earth with a thought.
"danhimself said:that's what i was thinking"when you say "phoenix" are you talking phoenix power jean or jean using the codename phoenix but not actually having the phoenix force"It has to be Jean because the Phoenix Force was never an X-woman."
"Ferro Vida said:If he's Feral he has no inhibitions. Nothing to keep him from killing Cap. If this is an all out battle, then it'll just take him a matter of time. I see your point here though."Vance Astro said:If he's Feral..he's worse of because he loses intellect."starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus."Emma can shut down Wanda's mind before she does anythingI don't see Phoenix beating Thor.If Storm was hurting Dark Phoenix than Thorforce Thor would destroy herHow the hell does Kitty Curbstomp the Vision?"
I was joking. I agree with you.
If she has the phoenix force?
She's a trained ninja, can shut down any electrical object by touching it, and can make it so that Vision can't lay a finger on her
"Wanda has the upper hand over Emma. An attack from Emma wouldn't be too efficient, seeing as how Dr. Strange and Professor X were discussing how Wanda was becoming resistant to mental treatments. Emma even said that she and Cyclops should be careful, cause Wanda could wipe them off the face of the earth with a thought. "Wanda WAS becoming resistant.Emma is damn near Omega level.During House of M...Wanda was manipulating that entire existence so I can see why Emma would be afraid.But if Wanda doesn't have the chance to do anything..this is a face to face battle..Wanda can shut her down before she makes a move.
"White Mage said:Or Wanda could turn her into a pile of diamonds."Wanda has the upper hand over Emma. An attack from Emma wouldn't be too efficient, seeing as how Dr. Strange and Professor X were discussing how Wanda was becoming resistant to mental treatments. Emma even said that she and Cyclops should be careful, cause Wanda could wipe them off the face of the earth with a thought. "Wanda WAS becoming resistant.Emma is damn near Omega level.During House of M...Wanda was manipulating that entire existence so I can see why Emma would be afraid.But if Wanda doesn't have the chance to do anything..this is a face to face battle..Wanda can shut her down before she makes a move."
"Vance Astro said:So you basically saying that Wolverine would kill Cap if he didn't hold back..which would be false becaause in Wolverine Enemy of the State..he was bloodlusted and didn't hold back on anyone and Cap beat his face in the ground."Ferro Vida said:If he's Feral he has no inhibitions. Nothing to keep him from killing Cap. If this is an all out battle, then it'll just take him a matter of time. I see your point here though."Vance Astro said:If he's Feral..he's worse of because he loses intellect."starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus."Emma can shut down Wanda's mind before she does anythingI don't see Phoenix beating Thor.If Storm was hurting Dark Phoenix than Thorforce Thor would destroy herHow the hell does Kitty Curbstomp the Vision?"
I was joking. I agree with you.
If she has the phoenix force?
She's a trained ninja, can shut down any electrical object by touching it, and can make it so that Vision can't lay a finger on her"
Yes....Storm and the X-men fought the Dark Pheonix and she was hurting Jean with her winds.
Being a trained Ninja does what against the Vision? What makes you think The Vision has to "lay a finger on her to beat her?"
"Vance Astro said:Emma could get at her as fast as she can think.She has the upperhand."White Mage said:Or Wanda could turn her into a pile of diamonds. ""Wanda has the upper hand over Emma. An attack from Emma wouldn't be too efficient, seeing as how Dr. Strange and Professor X were discussing how Wanda was becoming resistant to mental treatments. Emma even said that she and Cyclops should be careful, cause Wanda could wipe them off the face of the earth with a thought. "Wanda WAS becoming resistant.Emma is damn near Omega level.During House of M...Wanda was manipulating that entire existence so I can see why Emma would be afraid.But if Wanda doesn't have the chance to do anything..this is a face to face battle..Wanda can shut her down before she makes a move."
"danhimself said:"when you say "phoenix" are you talking phoenix power jean or jean using the codename phoenix but not actually having the phoenix force"It has to be Jean because the Phoenix Force was never an X-woman."
but jean still had those powers even after the pheonix force was gone out of her while she was also an x-woman
"Ferro Vida said:"Vance Astro said:So you basically saying that Wolverine would kill Cap if he didn't hold back..which would be false becaause in Wolverine Enemy of the State..he was bloodlusted and didn't hold back on anyone and Cap beat his face in the ground."Ferro Vida said:If he's Feral he has no inhibitions. Nothing to keep him from killing Cap. If this is an all out battle, then it'll just take him a matter of time. I see your point here though."Vance Astro said:If he's Feral..he's worse of because he loses intellect."starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus."Emma can shut down Wanda's mind before she does anythingI don't see Phoenix beating Thor.If Storm was hurting Dark Phoenix than Thorforce Thor would destroy herHow the hell does Kitty Curbstomp the Vision?"
I was joking. I agree with you.
If she has the phoenix force?
She's a trained ninja, can shut down any electrical object by touching it, and can make it so that Vision can't lay a finger on her"Yes....Storm and the X-men fought the Dark Pheonix and she was hurting Jean with her winds.Being a trained Ninja does what against the Vision? What makes you think The Vision has to "lay a finger on her to beat her?""
if he can't lay a finger on her how does he beat her?
"Vance Astro said:Energy projection...DUH!"Ferro Vida said:"Vance Astro said:So you basically saying that Wolverine would kill Cap if he didn't hold back..which would be false becaause in Wolverine Enemy of the State..he was bloodlusted and didn't hold back on anyone and Cap beat his face in the ground."Ferro Vida said:If he's Feral he has no inhibitions. Nothing to keep him from killing Cap. If this is an all out battle, then it'll just take him a matter of time. I see your point here though."Vance Astro said:If he's Feral..he's worse of because he loses intellect."starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus."Emma can shut down Wanda's mind before she does anythingI don't see Phoenix beating Thor.If Storm was hurting Dark Phoenix than Thorforce Thor would destroy herHow the hell does Kitty Curbstomp the Vision?"
I was joking. I agree with you.
If she has the phoenix force?
She's a trained ninja, can shut down any electrical object by touching it, and can make it so that Vision can't lay a finger on her"Yes....Storm and the X-men fought the Dark Pheonix and she was hurting Jean with her winds.Being a trained Ninja does what against the Vision? What makes you think The Vision has to "lay a finger on her to beat her?""
if he can't lay a finger on her how does he beat her?"
"Vance Astro said:let me refrase that"danhimself said:"when you say "phoenix" are you talking phoenix power jean or jean using the codename phoenix but not actually having the phoenix force"It has to be Jean because the Phoenix Force was never an X-woman."
but jean still had those powers even after the pheonix force was gone out of her while she was also an x-woman"
the original pheonix force was not a cosmic entity but jean grey herself then they re wrote it and they made the pheonix force an entity but originally she was an x-woman with the pheonix powers
"Vance Astro said:let me refrase that"danhimself said:"when you say "phoenix" are you talking phoenix power jean or jean using the codename phoenix but not actually having the phoenix force"It has to be Jean because the Phoenix Force was never an X-woman."
but jean still had those powers even after the pheonix force was gone out of her while she was also an x-woman"
the original pheonix force was not a cosmic entity but jean grey herself then they re wrote it and they made the pheonix force an entity but originally she was an x-woman with the pheonix powers
"Ferro Vida said:I'll admit the first one, because Cap kicks @ss was only saying that for arguements sake"Vance Astro said:So you basically saying that Wolverine would kill Cap if he didn't hold back..which would be false becaause in Wolverine Enemy of the State..he was bloodlusted and didn't hold back on anyone and Cap beat his face in the ground."Ferro Vida said:If he's Feral he has no inhibitions. Nothing to keep him from killing Cap. If this is an all out battle, then it'll just take him a matter of time. I see your point here though."Vance Astro said:If he's Feral..he's worse of because he loses intellect."starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus."Emma can shut down Wanda's mind before she does anythingI don't see Phoenix beating Thor.If Storm was hurting Dark Phoenix than Thorforce Thor would destroy herHow the hell does Kitty Curbstomp the Vision?"
I was joking. I agree with you.
If she has the phoenix force?
She's a trained ninja, can shut down any electrical object by touching it, and can make it so that Vision can't lay a finger on her"Yes....Storm and the X-men fought the Dark Pheonix and she was hurting Jean with her winds.Being a trained Ninja does what against the Vision? What makes you think The Vision has to "lay a finger on her to beat her?""
In the old comics Phoenix Force Jean beat down all the X-men without even breaking a sweat.
"Laying a finger on her" is a figure of speech. It means he can't do anytihng to hurt her. And you argue this as if Kitty is a moron, when she's a genius who can hold her own against the living computer
"danhimself said:"Vance Astro said:Energy projection...DUH!""Ferro Vida said:"Vance Astro said:So you basically saying that Wolverine would kill Cap if he didn't hold back..which would be false becaause in Wolverine Enemy of the State..he was bloodlusted and didn't hold back on anyone and Cap beat his face in the ground."Ferro Vida said:If he's Feral he has no inhibitions. Nothing to keep him from killing Cap. If this is an all out battle, then it'll just take him a matter of time. I see your point here though."Vance Astro said:If he's Feral..he's worse of because he loses intellect."starborn said:Wolverine vs. Cap= Depends on Wolverine's state of mind. If he's Feral, Logan, if he's not, Cap."wolverine vs captain americaWolverine & Cap=stalemate
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"Emma & Scarlet Witch=EmmaPhoenix & Thor=ThorCyclops & Iron Man=Iron Man.CURBSTOMPKitty & Vision=The VisionBeast vs. Wonder Man=Wonder Man.CURBSTOMPColossus vs, Ant-Man=Colossus"
Emma vs. Scarlet Witch= depends on whether Wanda has her powers :P
Phoenix vs. Thor= Phoenix after a very close fight
Cyclops vs. Iron man= I can see Cyclops winning. He's good at beating people who are more powerful than he is, and is optic blast could punch a hole right through Tony.
Kitty vs. Vision= Kitty Curbstomp.
Beast vs. Wonderman= Wonderman.
Colossus vs. Ant-man= Colossus."Emma can shut down Wanda's mind before she does anythingI don't see Phoenix beating Thor.If Storm was hurting Dark Phoenix than Thorforce Thor would destroy herHow the hell does Kitty Curbstomp the Vision?"
I was joking. I agree with you.
If she has the phoenix force?
She's a trained ninja, can shut down any electrical object by touching it, and can make it so that Vision can't lay a finger on her"Yes....Storm and the X-men fought the Dark Pheonix and she was hurting Jean with her winds.Being a trained Ninja does what against the Vision? What makes you think The Vision has to "lay a finger on her to beat her?""
if he can't lay a finger on her how does he beat her?"
but she can phase before it hits her....duh?
How do you phase through someone who is faster than you,can fly,and can also be intangible?
"wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"How do you phase through someone who is faster than you,can fly,and can also be intangible?"Vision is in no way faster than her, he wouldn't just fly away from her because then there would be no fighting involved, and if you read Runaway's and Young Avenger's civil war, you'll see that Victor and Noh-Var took him out even when he was phasing.
"Vance Astro said:You have to be kidding me.Iron Man flies at Mach 8 and Iron Man kept up with him..so what do you mean The Vision isn't faster than Kitty?"How do you phase through someone who is faster than you,can fly,and can also be intangible?"Vision is in no way faster than her, he wouldn't just fly away from her because then there would be no fighting involved, and if you read Runaway's and Young Avenger's civil war, you'll see that Victor and Noh-Var took him out even when he was phasing."
He doesn't have to fly away from her because he's going to put her out of comisson early.She isn't fast or smart enough to beat the Vision.
She-Hulk,Iron Man & Storm took him out while he was phasing as well..including Noh Varr..name one of them Kitty could either beat or is more powerful than....
"starborn said:How is it that people think Kitty is more prone to come up with a strategy than an android built off of Kang the Conquerer's intellect?"wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"
"Ferro Vida said:Which does him what good against someone he can't injure?"Vance Astro said:You have to be kidding me.Iron Man flies at Mach 8 and Iron Man kept up with him..so what do you mean The Vision isn't faster than Kitty?"How do you phase through someone who is faster than you,can fly,and can also be intangible?"Vision is in no way faster than her, he wouldn't just fly away from her because then there would be no fighting involved, and if you read Runaway's and Young Avenger's civil war, you'll see that Victor and Noh-Var took him out even when he was phasing."He doesn't have to fly away from her because he's going to put her out of comisson early.She isn't fast or smart enough to beat the Vision.She-Hulk,Iron Man & Storm took him out while he was phasing as well..including Noh Varr..name one of them Kitty could either beat or is more powerful than...."
How is he going to put her out of comisson early? She is fast and smart enough to beat the vision. She's beaten Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Magneto.
I forgot how good you were at dancing around facts. VISION IS A LIVING COMPUTER! It doesn't matter if she has beaten any of them (Even though she could beat Iron man just as easily), because she shuts down any machine she phases through!
doesnt she have to hold her breath to phase?
"Vance Astro said:yeaaahhh!!!!!"Ferro Vida said:Which does him what good against someone he can't injure?"Vance Astro said:You have to be kidding me.Iron Man flies at Mach 8 and Iron Man kept up with him..so what do you mean The Vision isn't faster than Kitty?"How do you phase through someone who is faster than you,can fly,and can also be intangible?"Vision is in no way faster than her, he wouldn't just fly away from her because then there would be no fighting involved, and if you read Runaway's and Young Avenger's civil war, you'll see that Victor and Noh-Var took him out even when he was phasing."He doesn't have to fly away from her because he's going to put her out of comisson early.She isn't fast or smart enough to beat the Vision.She-Hulk,Iron Man & Storm took him out while he was phasing as well..including Noh Varr..name one of them Kitty could either beat or is more powerful than...."
How is he going to put her out of comisson early? She is fast and smart enough to beat the vision. She's beaten Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Magneto.
I forgot how good you were at dancing around facts. VISION IS A LIVING COMPUTER! It doesn't matter if she has beaten any of them (Even though she could beat Iron man just as easily), because she shuts down any machine she phases through!"
i say youve beaten him at this debate
"Kidder said:... The vision's brain patterns were based on Wonderman and he was built by the man who invented the human torch. Even in his current state, that doesn't affect his intellect, it just nullifies his experience."starborn said:How is it that people think Kitty is more prone to come up with a strategy than an android built off of Kang the Conquerer's intellect?""wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"
"doesnt she have to hold her breath to phase?"No, not anymore.
"wolverine vs captain americaCaptain America
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
Emma Frost (unlikely choice but I see her moving and attacking without mercy knowing what she is up against)
Phoenix
Ironman
Vision
Wonderman
Antman
"Vance Astro said:That is not true what so ever.The Original Vision was built by Ultron..whose brain patterns were based on Hank Pym.The current Vision was built by Iron Lad who grew up to become Kang the Conquerer one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe."Kidder said:... The vision's brain patterns were based on Wonderman and he was built by the man who invented the human torch. Even in his current state, that doesn't affect his intellect, it just nullifies his experience.""starborn said:How is it that people think Kitty is more prone to come up with a strategy than an android built off of Kang the Conquerer's intellect?""wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"
"Ferro Vida said:How did he beat me..Almost none of this sh#t is right...."Vance Astro said:yeaaahhh!!!!!"Ferro Vida said:Which does him what good against someone he can't injure?"Vance Astro said:You have to be kidding me.Iron Man flies at Mach 8 and Iron Man kept up with him..so what do you mean The Vision isn't faster than Kitty?"How do you phase through someone who is faster than you,can fly,and can also be intangible?"Vision is in no way faster than her, he wouldn't just fly away from her because then there would be no fighting involved, and if you read Runaway's and Young Avenger's civil war, you'll see that Victor and Noh-Var took him out even when he was phasing."He doesn't have to fly away from her because he's going to put her out of comisson early.She isn't fast or smart enough to beat the Vision.She-Hulk,Iron Man & Storm took him out while he was phasing as well..including Noh Varr..name one of them Kitty could either beat or is more powerful than...."
How is he going to put her out of comisson early? She is fast and smart enough to beat the vision. She's beaten Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Magneto.
I forgot how good you were at dancing around facts. VISION IS A LIVING COMPUTER! It doesn't matter if she has beaten any of them (Even though she could beat Iron man just as easily), because she shuts down any machine she phases through!"
i say youve beaten him at this debate"
The point of me mentioning The Vision's speed was for defense not offense.
Beating Wolverine,Nightcrawler,Colossus,and Magneto means nothing..She is not fast nor is she that smart.Most of the X-men have beaten each other.There isn't one X-man from the 80-early 90's who hasn't beaten at least one other X-man.
I'm not dancing around anything.Saying KITTY PRYDE can beat Iron Man is the most retarded thing I have heard all day.You cannot phase through..what you can get near...
"Ferro Vida said:No, the teenage Kang found the Vision's to halves of a body in the Avenger's warehouse and downloaded the memory into the suit. He was not built by Kang, his new body is just made of 40th century tech."Vance Astro said:That is not true what so ever.The Original Vision was built by Ultron..whose brain patterns were based on Hank Pym.The current Vision was built by Iron Lad who grew up to become Kang the Conquerer one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe.""Kidder said:... The vision's brain patterns were based on Wonderman and he was built by the man who invented the human torch. Even in his current state, that doesn't affect his intellect, it just nullifies his experience.""starborn said:How is it that people think Kitty is more prone to come up with a strategy than an android built off of Kang the Conquerer's intellect?""wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"
"Ferro Vida said:wrong the visions memory files were stored in the avengers mansion computer after iron lad was gone they uploaded his memory and computer into ironlads armor which had memory banks of the future kang the conquerer and all that stuff"Vance Astro said:That is not true what so ever.The Original Vision was built by Ultron..whose brain patterns were based on Hank Pym.The current Vision was built by Iron Lad who grew up to become Kang the Conquerer one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe.""Kidder said:... The vision's brain patterns were based on Wonderman and he was built by the man who invented the human torch. Even in his current state, that doesn't affect his intellect, it just nullifies his experience.""starborn said:How is it that people think Kitty is more prone to come up with a strategy than an android built off of Kang the Conquerer's intellect?""wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"
Kang created the new Vision even if he didn't physical build each part.
"Vance Astro said:None of what you said contradicts what I said."Ferro Vida said:wrong the visions memory files were stored in the avengers mansion computer after iron lad was gone they uploaded his memory and computer into ironlads armor which had memory banks of the future kang the conquerer and all that stuff""Vance Astro said:That is not true what so ever.The Original Vision was built by Ultron..whose brain patterns were based on Hank Pym.The current Vision was built by Iron Lad who grew up to become Kang the Conquerer one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe.""Kidder said:... The vision's brain patterns were based on Wonderman and he was built by the man who invented the human torch. Even in his current state, that doesn't affect his intellect, it just nullifies his experience.""starborn said:How is it that people think Kitty is more prone to come up with a strategy than an android built off of Kang the Conquerer's intellect?""wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"
"Kidder said:"Vance Astro said:None of what you said contradicts what I said.""Ferro Vida said:wrong the visions memory files were stored in the avengers mansion computer after iron lad was gone they uploaded his memory and computer into ironlads armor which had memory banks of the future kang the conquerer and all that stuff""Vance Astro said:That is not true what so ever.The Original Vision was built by Ultron..whose brain patterns were based on Hank Pym.The current Vision was built by Iron Lad who grew up to become Kang the Conquerer one of the smartest men in the Marvel Universe.""Kidder said:... The vision's brain patterns were based on Wonderman and he was built by the man who invented the human torch. Even in his current state, that doesn't affect his intellect, it just nullifies his experience.""starborn said:How is it that people think Kitty is more prone to come up with a strategy than an android built off of Kang the Conquerer's intellect?""wolverine vs captain americawolverine vs cap:
emma frost vs scarlet witch
phoenix vs thor
cyclops vs iron man
shadow cat vs vison
beast vs wonderman
colossus vs antman
who will win their fights
"
probably cap but mabye wolverine it would be a close battle i really dunno who wins but i think that wolverine might win cus when hes not feral hes smarter i can muneuver some of caps moves
emma vs scarlet witch:
emma might be able todo all that mind stuff but magic always beats mind powers
pheonix vs thor:
probably thor if shes not dark pheonix hed beat on her with his hammer
cyclops vs iron man:
iron man would win
shadow cat vs vision:
if shadow cat was able to use her surrounding stratigically she might win
colossus vs antman:
ant man would win in the avengers movie he was able to squish the hulk for like a sec before he broke out of his hand and so im pretty sure he could crush colossus with ease if he can do that
"
oh...well then.....
You said Kang built the Vision. He downloaded the Vision's memory. He has the same brain pattern's as the original, just a different body.
Yeah, he never really gives up.
oh...well then....."
Scarlet Witch could cast a hex that backfires Emma's assault, or scrambles it. Emma's skilled and all, but Dr. Strange was using a certain mystic Item to keep wanda down.
"Kidder said:Why would I give up when I am right.Kitty Pryde Cannot beat the Vision.I never said the Vision had different brain patterns....Kang built his armor.Yeah, he never really gives up."
oh...well then....."
"Ferro Vida said:"Kidder said:Why would I give up when I am right.Kitty Pryde Cannot beat the Vision.I never said the Vision had different brain patterns....Kang built his armor."Yeah, he never really gives up."
oh...well then....."
but not the future evil kang a younger version
"Vance Astro said:Who cares? He's still a genius...I said it was Iron Lad who grew up to be Kang..did I not?"Ferro Vida said:"Kidder said:Why would I give up when I am right.Kitty Pryde Cannot beat the Vision.I never said the Vision had different brain patterns....Kang built his armor."Yeah, he never really gives up."
oh...well then....."
but not the future evil kang a younger version"
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