#1 Posted by YoungJustice (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals Off for all battles

Bloodlust On For All Battles

No Prep

Standard Gear

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#2 Posted by MisterWhisper (1892 posts) - - Show Bio

With Bloodlust on, Magick throws Emma into Limbo and well, lets just say things do not go well for the White Queen.

#3 Posted by YoungJustice (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Magik-1

Emma Frost-0

#4 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

White Queen Mind Rapes first.

#5 Posted by YoungJustice (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Magik - 1

Emma Frost - 1

#6 Posted by RIKR2 (10824 posts) - - Show Bio

emma frost

#7 Posted by YoungJustice (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Magik - 1

Emma Frost - 2

#8 Posted by usmuscle (109 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma

#9 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Magik immune to telepathy? Or has that changed?

#10 Posted by coolsam125 (136 posts) - - Show Bio

emma, Im Batman

#11 Posted by God_Spawn (37709 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30: She was enslaved by Sinister in UXM 2, correct?

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#12 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: I think you may be right. I think all of the Extinction team minus Hope fell under the Sinister TP hive mind. That could be WIS though. I want to say back in classic uncanny Xavier stated that Illyana had impenetrable shields and that there was a subsequent showing where her mind could not be reached telepathically.

#13 Edited by chiq (1944 posts) - - Show Bio

@THUNDERBOLT30:

It's from her wiki entry:

It is also mentioned that Illyana has formidable psionic shields, which are mental barriers that block anyone from reading her mind. This is most likely a result of the time she spent in Limbo and the effects of her evolving a partially demonic soul. As such even powerful mind readers such as Charles Xavier, the Shadow King, and the Phoenix-enhanced Rachel Summers can not mentally read Illyana's thoughts. Illyana was able to lower her psionic shields and allow Emma Frost to see her memories of the death of the X-Men

I do have scans of her resisting Xaiver and Empath if needed.

However god_spawn is right, she wasn't immune vs Sinster's celestial amped TP. So take from that what you will...

A bloodlusted Magik is quite scary though...Teleporting limbs off. bfr, time travel, illusions, spell casting, demon armies, armor, healing, magical and bfr shields, soul absorption, trapping people in the soul sword, realty warping and matter manipulation in limbo at least, demon mode, hell fire control, morphing, etc..

it's not in character for her to do some of these things most of the time though...(although she has displayed it more then once)

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#14 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq said:

@THUNDERBOLT30:

It's from her wiki entry:

It is also mentioned that Illyana has formidable psionic shields, which are mental barriers that block anyone from reading her mind. This is most likely a result of the time she spent in Limbo and the effects of her evolving a partially demonic soul. As such even powerful mind readers such as Charles Xavier, the Shadow King, and the Phoenix-enhanced Rachel Summers can not mentally read Illyana's thoughts. Illyana was able to lower her psionic shields and allow Emma Frost to see her memories of the death of the X-Men

I do have scans of her resisting Xaiver and Empath if needed.

However god_spawn is right, she wasn't immune vs Sinster's celestial amped TP. So take from that what you will...

A bloodlusted Magik is quite scary though...Teleporting limbs off. bfr, time travel, illusions, spell casting, demon armies, armor, healing, magical and bfr shields, soul absorption, trapping people in the soul sword, realty warping and matter manipulation in limbo at least, demon mode, hell fire control, morphing, etc..

it's not in character for her to do some of these things most of the time though...(although she has displayed it more then once)

Blackwidow kicked her ass, and not only physically overcame Magik in limbo, got her to transport them back.

This is while Emma Frost physically out-fought Thor.

So all we really know is Marvel is throwing consistency out the window.

#15 Edited by chiq (1944 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenteaforme: Well, I kinda agree with you Marvel does have a tendency of throwing consistency out the window.

But in the Widow and Magik fight, Illyana stated that she was just playing around and was not serious. If she got serious she said the Widow would be dead. She didn't armor up, turn into a demon, use any spell...she didn't even use her sword until the last moment when she wanted to K.O. the Widow. But I can see why many people can look at it as a low showing for her. She just beat Strange in the same series, so i would assume she was just playing around with her food. If not for that statement, that battle would be pure PIS. Beating Strange then losing to Widow in the same series makes no sense at all.

When did Emma out fight Thor? Was that PF powered Emma? Normal Emma physically out fighting Thor is PIS. PF powered Emma manhandling Thor is something i don't have any problem with though...

I agree though a lot of jobbing going on in that series. Xavier takes down everyone PF powered Namor, Thor and Rachel while Spider Woman can tank his TP attack due to shield tech.,

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#16 Posted by greenteaforme (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq said:

@greenteaforme: Well, I kinda agree with you Marvel does have a tendency of throwing consistency out the window.

But in the Widow and Magik fight, Illyana stated that she was just playing around and was not serious. If she got serious she said the Widow would be dead. She didn't armor up, turn into a demon, use any spell...she didn't even use her sword until the last moment when she wanted to K.O. the Widow. But I can see why many people can look at it as a low showing for her. She just beat Strange in the same series, so i would assume she was just playing around with her food. If not for that statement, that battle would be pure PIS. Beating Strange then losing to Widow in the same series makes no sense at all.

When did Emma out fight Thor? Was that PF powered Emma? Normal Emma physically out fighting Thor is PIS. PF powered Emma manhandling Thor is something i don't have any problem with though...

I agree though a lot of jobbing going on in that series. Xavier takes down everyone PF powered Namor, Thor and Rachel while Spider Woman can tank his TP attack due to shield tech.,

We have no evidence that the PF enhances physical strength, though. Even Namor was getting beat down. Yes, he kept getting back up, but...he was getting put back down every time.

As it stands, it seems Emma Frost physically out-fought Thor through her own strength and skill.

#17 Posted by YoungJustice (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Emma Frost wins

Next

Cyclops vs Dazzler

This shall be interesting.

#18 Posted by tomlikesfries (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

Great idea. I'll probably be visiting this thread constantly.

Anyway, what are Dazzler's most impressive feats?

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#19 Posted by YoungJustice (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

Great idea. I'll probably be visiting this thread constantly.

Anyway, what are Dazzler's most impressive feats?

Thanks.

Well, I remember her knocking Juggernaut back. I'll search for the scan.

#20 Edited by tomlikesfries (4643 posts) - - Show Bio

Hahahahahaha.

Anyway, I think Scott can take this. It's been said that his optic blasts can punch holes through mountains, and since it's morals off, I think he can beat Dazzler. Anyway, I don't know much about her, so I may be wrong.

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#21 Posted by marvelbeast (602 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops

#22 Posted by HigorM (3735 posts) - - Show Bio

Dazzler

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#23 Edited by YoungJustice (6791 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops leads 2-1

#24 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10317 posts) - - Show Bio

Dazzler.