X-Man vs Justice League originals (minus Flash)

Callouts:

vine doesn't seem to let me edit the OP.. so i'll tell here

• standard gears... batman have access to all of his accessories.

nate

X-Man

How powerful is Natw Grey?

exactly at surfer tier

he's quite versatile aswell

@ssj_god: told ya he was a 20, 45% means 4.5/10 which is too much

o.O

i said in op that this isn't because of any gain in your thread.. it's because you genuinely aroused my curiosity to examine this

can a strong representation change a character's view and impact in a whole site?

If Hal can affect Nate then Martian Manhunter and Hal are enough. Both are faster than Nate. Which is why Silver Surfer would also win, that & he's more powerful than Qabiri.

Xman...with mid difficulty...

I'm assuming Shaman isn't the borderline universal one who's on par with Phoenix?

@captain_batman_ftw: he's very powerful. Sky father tier at peak strength.

X Man

Nate stomps.

There is no answer for his time manipulation or telepathy.

@beware_my_power: well thats what i was thinking...isn't Nate's tp ability like universal...he like located a single mind in a billion galaxies throughout billions and billions of different species and minds or something ridiculous like that...can manipulate time and such...

Justice League just to spite @ssj_god <3

shaman nate is high herald tier .. no one said about his peak strength (assuming you mean full potential)... and at full potential, he'd be a universal+ character.

shaman nate is high herald tier character... he'd be close to phoenix at his full potential (which in shaman form, he isn't)... and yes.. he have very powerful TP.. time manip isn't allowed though

time manipulation isn't allowed

i actually never go out of proportion for a character (even if it's one of my favorites)... see my opinion at the bottom of the OP .. :D

bump

Nate as his telepathy alone is too much.

it's official

nate can now stand alongside surfer, sentry, thor, ultron, thanos etc and all the other "confirmed marvel JLA team-busters"

yeah.. the pic is old... but the team isn't that old..lol.. it's post crisis + new 52

kent solos

Silver Age justice League? JLA takes the W with Superman alone.

Post-Crisis JLA? Nate Grey takes.

New 52 JLA: Hmmm...this is a tough one.

i'm pretty sure that's not true

i said in OP rules

post crisis + new 52 composite feats (no pre crisis)

it's post crisis + new 52

so is it official?

what?

@ssj_god:

nate can now stand alongside surfer, sentry, thor, ultron, doom, thanos etc and all the other "confirmed marvel JLA team-busters"

these are confirmed JLA team busters? (with prep, doom sure is though)

and i dunno.. people seem to believe x-man can take the team down.

Damn, no prep for Batman.

If you gave Batman the Hellbat armor, he alone would have a good fight against Nate Grey.

@ssj_god said:

@masterkungfu:

technically no but it is the direction CV has taken recently. BTW I was referring to no prep

yeah.. well technically, power tier wise wally west or any other flash isn't so much above of JLA heavy hitters either, but vine makes him out like some transcended herald tier character.. lmao.. it's what vine do..

people? which type of people? voters not talkers?

when less than half the people who voted leave a comment...you know its a little disturbing

the people voted, as well as the people commented, seems to think this... and you gotta count the votes aswell.. because x-man isn't such a popular character to gain popularity vote... and certainly not popular as the league.

@ssj_god: This: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/nate-grey-vs-batman-read-op-1655615

Maybe you should give Batman prep ;)

Why justice league no complete?

sorry, too many old school Italian movies lately.

i have a better one, created by the great wenjun chew

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/batman-vs-nate-grey-read-op-1569635/

becoz of an argument in a tourney thread, regarding this same setup aroused my curiosity... that's why (btw.. you can see my opinion in the bottom of the op.. but it seems not many people agrees with me)

@ssj_god said:

No Flash? This thread just got boring. :(. JK.

I'd give it to Nate.

@masterkungfu:

flash is more to do with powerset than actual power level

actually.. so does most of the people you mentioned

true he isn't as popular as the JLA but he isn't as hated as the JLA either. the JLA members are so often used in battles its hard not to dislike them from time to time. it especially reaches a point where its just Marvel guy vs DC guy

that's so biased opinion ..lol ... your 'marvel guy' could get the same treatment you know (by the viners who hates avengers or so).

@masterkungfu:

not to mention one side outnumbers the other side

i don't know which side outnumbers which..lol

not trying to take anything from nate but when you start taking herald tier characters and say they can solo a bunch of other herald tier characters something or someone has to give way.

as i said.. it's the same with flash.. that's how vine works