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-No phoenix
-No binary
-In character
-No prep
Who wins and why?
Please use logic and reasoning
X-Women all the way! there over all more powerful. Even with out the phoenix force Jeans mind control would be bad ass.
I'll go with the Marvel ladies, since I think they are more powerful than this mix of X-women - Jean and Ororo are the two most powerful there, but asking them to hold off Ms. Marvel and Invisible Woman is more than either can handle esp. since they're in character: Storm, Jean and Kitty would hold back. Rogue would get overpowered by any member of that team, esp. since they are each familiar with her powers, so would know to take her out ask quickly as possible with no physical contact. Spiderwoman could cause Jean problems since she is conceivably fast enough to keep her of balance while Sue could easily handle Storm (Storm flies right into an invisible wall and then is hit by an invisible column holding her against the ground). Ms. Marvel rounds up Kitty pretty quickly since Kitty's never done that well phasing through energy.
@Deadcool said:
Rogue Solo...
How? She has no flight, super strength or enhanced durability so would be solely relying on her mutant power. And each of these ladies has faced her before (Ms. Marvel knows her esp. well, Invisible Woman handled her pretty easily while Rogue had those powers in one of the Annuals, and Spiderwoman met her and had access to the Avengers files). And if she gets close to She Hulk she is getting wrecked very hard.
Jean took a full blast from insane/possessed Binary and hacked her mind and shut her off from her powers (directly near their source) before, this is only Ms. Marvel, she should be able to handle her. Being in character and holding back does not mean they will allow themselves to be beaten, Storm and Jean have enough consistent showings where they stop holding back to keep from getting defeated which means in character they will cut loose if they feel they need to. I don't see Spiderwoman causing Jean any problem at all, Jean has instantly slowed the flow of blood to Rictors brain and KO'd him way back in X-Factor. Kitty has plenty of feats with energy blasts phasing through her, she has had the most problem with direct electrical attacks that are usually from a person that can also manipulate said energy.I'll go with the Marvel ladies, since I think they are more powerful than this mix of X-women - Jean and Ororo are the two most powerful there, but asking them to hold off Ms. Marvel and Invisible Woman is more than either can handle esp. since they're in character: Storm, Jean and Kitty would hold back. Rogue would get overpowered by any member of that team, esp. since they are each familiar with her powers, so would know to take her out ask quickly as possible with no physical contact. Spiderwoman could cause Jean problems since she is conceivably fast enough to keep her of balance while Sue could easily handle Storm (Storm flies right into an invisible wall and then is hit by an invisible column holding her against the ground). Ms. Marvel rounds up Kitty pretty quickly since Kitty's never done that well phasing through energy.
@PhoenixoftheTides said:
I'll go with the Marvel ladies, since I think they are more powerful than this mix of X-women - Jean and Ororo are the two most powerful there, but asking them to hold off Ms. Marvel and Invisible Woman is more than either can handle esp. since they're in character: Storm, Jean and Kitty would hold back. Rogue would get overpowered by any member of that team, esp. since they are each familiar with her powers, so would know to take her out ask quickly as possible with no physical contact. Spiderwoman could cause Jean problems since she is conceivably fast enough to keep her of balance while Sue could easily handle Storm (Storm flies right into an invisible wall and then is hit by an invisible column holding her against the ground). Ms. Marvel rounds up Kitty pretty quickly since Kitty's never done that well phasing through energy.
Jean solos by making Carol think she needs a drink and that the Marvel Ladies are closed, very difficult to open bottles of liquor.
@LordOfAllHumans said:
Jean solos by making Carol think she needs a drink and that the Marvel Ladies are closed, very difficult to open bottles of liquor.
LMAO
@LordOfAllHumans said:
Jean solos by making Carol think she needs a drink and that the Marvel Ladies are closed, very difficult to open bottles of liquor.
LOL
By past history...
Invisible Woman can take out Jean fairly easily.
Also, Rogue can take out She-Hulk fairly easily, and she's won every match against Carol.
@PhoenixoftheTides: I thought that he was able to activate her powers previously absorbed... well, maybe I am wrong, I am not an x-pert, I just read that in a thread...
She's done it twice, I think. Both time required external help that isn't here ATM.
I think the problem here is that Sue would wind up carrying the team, but she won't be able to split her attention 4 ways to carry them for the win.
Ms.Marvel would blitz Jean into outerspace just like she did to Super Skrull
This is their only chance. If they take Jean out at the start, Marvel ladies win. If not, X-Ladies.
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