X-Force Vs Utopia Recon Team

No Prep

In Character

Win At Any Cost

Teams:

X-Force

Wolverine Deadpool Fantonmex Archangel AoA Nightcrawler Deathlok

Recon Team

Storm Colossus Jubilee Pixie Psylocke Warpath Domino

Team 1.

Fantomex solo's

@celtic said:

Fantomex solo's

this is begging to be worse than "Batman Wins"

Tough to hurt colossus

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@celtic said:

Fantomex solo's

this is begging to be worse than "Batman Wins"

Nah, "Hulk stands a chance" is worst or "Hulk wins"

Team 2, Psylocke takes out Psylock and the others can't misdirect a hurrican.

@Jonny_Anonymous:

Storm fanatics vs. Wolverine and Fantomex fanatics...

By golly man, what have you done!?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

Couldn't Psylocke just mindwipe?

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

Couldn't Psylocke just mindwipe?

Says in character. Also, Fantomex was able to beat Psylocke while she was under Archangel's control.

@JediXMan said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

Couldn't Psylocke just mindwipe?

Says in character. Also, Fantomex was able to beat Psylocke while she was under Archangel's control.

It also says win at any cost

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JediXMan said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

Couldn't Psylocke just mindwipe?

Says in character. Also, Fantomex was able to beat Psylocke while she was under Archangel's control.

It also says win at any cost

Seems there's a contradiction, then.

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

Not really Storm has pretty insane range on her abilities. Not to mention its win at any cost.

@Skaddix said:

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

Not really Storm has pretty insane range on her abilities. Not to mention its win at any cost.

I know. And he can easily trick her into fighting her own people. Not for him.

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

@JediXMan said:

@Skaddix said:

Team 2. Misdirection is all grand but its not going to stop an AOE attack nor does Fantomex have much range on that ability.

Can make Storm turn on her team. Devastating ability.

That and AoA Nightcrawler isn't afraid to kill; teleporting decapitations.

Not really Storm has pretty insane range on her abilities. Not to mention its win at any cost.

I know. And he can easily trick her into fighting her own people. Not for him.

So, in the end Storm is the only one standing. She creates a hurricane so powerful she wipe out everything within a 20 mile radius....even her own teammates. See Uncanny X-Men 175...which shows it's in character for her to do something like that....lol.

It's funny cause it's the same situation but with Mastermind, who I bet is better then Fantomex with misdirection.

@Lord Shiva:

They are not comparable. Mastermind is a telepath; Fantomex is a minor reality manipulator, as he was described by Dark Beast.

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva:

They are not comparable. Mastermind is a telepath; Fantomex is a minor reality manipulator, as he was described by Dark Beast.

Does that change the outcome of Fantomex's team getting taken out by a Cat 5 hurricane? IMHO, misdirection is kind small time to someone who totally make your mind's eyes see whatever they want you too.

@Lord Shiva said:

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva:

They are not comparable. Mastermind is a telepath; Fantomex is a minor reality manipulator, as he was described by Dark Beast.

Does that change the outcome of Fantomex's team getting taken out by a Cat 5 hurricane?

Certainly. She kills her team, she gets decapitated by Nightcrawler.

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva:

They are not comparable. Mastermind is a telepath; Fantomex is a minor reality manipulator, as he was described by Dark Beast.

Does that change the outcome of Fantomex's team getting taken out by a Cat 5 hurricane?

Certainly. She kills her team, she gets decapitated by Nightcrawler.

I highly doubt Nightcrawler would be left standing. If she has enough time to create a hurricane to kill her teammates, she will also kill X-Force. 20 miles is greater then AOA Crawlers range of teleporting. (IIRC)

@Lord Shiva said:

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva:

They are not comparable. Mastermind is a telepath; Fantomex is a minor reality manipulator, as he was described by Dark Beast.

Does that change the outcome of Fantomex's team getting taken out by a Cat 5 hurricane?

Certainly. She kills her team, she gets decapitated by Nightcrawler.

I highly doubt Nightcrawler would be left standing. If she has enough time to create a hurricane to kill her teammates, she will also kill X-Force. 20 miles is greater then AOA Crawlers range of teleporting. (IIRC)

Why would she even try to kill X-Force? Fantomex can (and has) used misdirection to "switch" the teams. He did it to Death, literally switching places with Pestilencem, making Dearh hurt her instead of him. Storm would see her team as the enemy and X-Force as an ally; why would she endanger her "ally?"

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

In Character

Win At Any Cost

Pretty much even in character, Storm has shown the willingness to kill her own teammates to fulfill her objective.

We're pretty much dealing with a semi-bloodlust group who will feel bad about killing their teammates tomorrow while cleaning up the bodies.

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva said:

@JediXMan said:

@Lord Shiva:

They are not comparable. Mastermind is a telepath; Fantomex is a minor reality manipulator, as he was described by Dark Beast.

Does that change the outcome of Fantomex's team getting taken out by a Cat 5 hurricane?

Certainly. She kills her team, she gets decapitated by Nightcrawler.

I highly doubt Nightcrawler would be left standing. If she has enough time to create a hurricane to kill her teammates, she will also kill X-Force. 20 miles is greater then AOA Crawlers range of teleporting. (IIRC)

Why would she even try to kill X-Force? Fantomex can (and has) used misdirection to "switch" the teams. He did it to Death, literally switching places with Pestilencem, making Dearh hurt her instead of him. Storm would see her team as the enemy and X-Force as an ally; why would she endanger her "ally?"

Because again Misdirection can only be cast in a short range. Storm can easily fly outside of said attack range and nuke the area killing fantomex. Likewise Kurt will not catch up because his teleport range is crap.

Good arguments made for both sides. <rolls eyes> I am so over Fantomex's misdirection lol. A rather frustrating power to try and debate against. Without it the Recon team would take a majority, especially with morals off. I think it can go either way with misdirection in play and the potential for teleport dismemberment. Storm team still has her aoe attacks that can level all of X-Force, Domino's luck on their side, a superior teleporter, physical powerhouses and a super fast vampire.

@Skaddix: What is the max range of Fantomex's irritating power?