#1 Posted by rastaboi (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Fight takes place at a large scrapyard Sebastian has absorbed the same amount of atomic energy he did in X-men first class Magneto is bloodlusted They start 50ft apart from eachother I'm pretty sure the early magneto would have been screwed if xavier didnt keep shaw in a frozen state. It looked like First class magneto struggled lifting a nuclear submarine which probably weighs around 20,000 tons, x3 magneto was able to lift the golden gate bridge which weighs around 877,000 tons so he deffinately has more control over his abilities but would his improved power be enough to take down a nuclear powered Shaw? Again these are the movie versions. Who would win and why?

#2 Posted by SexualLobster (995 posts) - - Show Bio

I think MAgneto wins, he has way more metal to work with, more control over his powers, and his feats like using iron in the blood to kill people are pretty impressive.

Not to mention Shaw was killed simply with a bullet being pushed into his head by a MUCH weaker Magneto, so his durability is pretty crappy.

I see Magneto winning 9/10.

#3 Posted by Oscars94 (2514 posts) - - Show Bio

@SexualLobster: The only reason his absorbing powers didn't work was because Xavier's telepathy shut down his powers.

#4 Posted by SexualLobster (995 posts) - - Show Bio

@Oscars94: didn't they only stop him from moving? I don't recall it actually removing his powers.

I recall him already absorbing a mega-f***-ton of energy prior to that though.

#5 Posted by rastaboi (6 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the later Magneto might have a shot, being that he's at least 10x more powerful than than he was in first class but I'm still not 100% sure. I'd have to agree with oscars about the disabling of shaws absorbing abilities with xaviers Telepathy so I dont think its such an easy victory for magneto but I do agree that magneto would fare much better and would most likely win but Thats just me, what do you guys think?

#6 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio

@Oscars94 said:

@SexualLobster: The only reason his absorbing powers didn't work was because Xavier's telepathy shut down his powers.

He didn't shut off his powers. He stopped Shaw from moving. The reason his powers didn't work is because Magneto moved the coin at an extremely slow speed, so that he couldn't absorn the kinetic energy - or what level he did absorb wouldn't be enough to stop the coin.

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#7 Posted by rastaboi (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@sexuallobster I'm not 100% but he could have just stopped his consciousness for a short period of time so unless he can subconsciously use his abilities to absorb the energy from the coin theres really nothing he can do. Dont you have to think about using your abilities in order for them to work?

#8 Posted by rastaboi (6 posts) - - Show Bio

*my bad, I meant dont you have to think about using PSYCHIC abilities for them to work? If thats the case and shaws abilities are mostly psychic then that explains why magneto was able to do that

#9 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto gets stomped. Shaw seemed even more powerful than his 616 counterpart, while Magneto seemed much weaker. I don't think there would be ANYTHING Magneto could do, as Shaw could absorb all forms of kinetic energy, rendering him immune to physical harm.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#10 Posted by spiderman009 (26 posts) - - Show Bio

shaw loses badly magneto can lift bridges and he fkn threw wolverine in that forest what can shaw do nothing he cant even LIFT wolverine.

#11 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderman009 said:

shaw loses badly magneto can lift bridges and he fkn threw wolverine in that forest what can shaw do nothing he cant even LIFT wolverine.

Where on Earth did you get the notion Shaw can't lift Wolverine?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#12 Posted by rastaboi (6 posts) - - Show Bio

would shaw be able to take the weight of an entire junkyard if x3 magneto were to simply drop the millions of pounds of metal on top of him at a slow speed? (less kinetic energy) then slowly crush him to death?

#13 Posted by spiderman009 (26 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@spiderman009 said:

shaw loses badly magneto can lift bridges and he fkn threw wolverine in that forest what can shaw do nothing he cant even LIFT wolverine.

Where on Earth did you get the notion Shaw can't lift Wolverine?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

adamantium probably weights about 800 tons magneto just loifted it

#14 Posted by ComicStooge (12823 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@Oscars94 said:

@SexualLobster: The only reason his absorbing powers didn't work was because Xavier's telepathy shut down his powers.

He didn't shut off his powers. He stopped Shaw from moving. The reason his powers didn't work is because Magneto moved the coin at an extremely slow speed, so that he couldn't absorn the kinetic energy - or what level he did absorb wouldn't be enough to stop the coin.

So what's your opinion on the fight?

#15 Posted by spiderman009 (26 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@JediXMan said:

@Oscars94 said:

@SexualLobster: The only reason his absorbing powers didn't work was because Xavier's telepathy shut down his powers.

He didn't shut off his powers. He stopped Shaw from moving. The reason his powers didn't work is because Magneto moved the coin at an extremely slow speed, so that he couldn't absorn the kinetic energy - or what level he did absorb wouldn't be enough to stop the coin.

So what's your opinion on the fight?

magneto wins

#16 Posted by Nefarious (20349 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto.

#17 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderman009 said:

@Floopay said:

@spiderman009 said:

shaw loses badly magneto can lift bridges and he fkn threw wolverine in that forest what can shaw do nothing he cant even LIFT wolverine.

Where on Earth did you get the notion Shaw can't lift Wolverine?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

adamantium probably weights about 800 tons magneto just loifted it

800 TONS!? It doesn't even weigh 800 pounds. In the comics Adamantium only augments his weight by about 100 pounds, and not even that. At 800 pounds he wouldn't be able to ride a motorcycle, or any other small vehicle. He wouldn't be able to sleep in a normal bed without completely destroying mattresses.

Honestly, Shaw was able to shatter concrete effortlessly, and bend entire I-bars without exerting any effort by simply walking through them, and it didn't slow down his movement speed AT ALL.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#18 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio

@rastaboi said:

would shaw be able to take the weight of an entire junkyard if x3 magneto were to simply drop the millions of pounds of metal on top of him at a slow speed? (less kinetic energy) then slowly crush him to death?

This is a bad way of doing it. Shaw absorbs kinetic energy. You're saying to hit him with a lot of big, heavy things.

The most efficient way to kill him is to slowly drive a small, sharp object through him. It needs to be a small point of entry at a slow speed in order to work.

That say, Magneto is capable. But your scenario would empower Shaw, not kill him.

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#19 Posted by spiderman009 (26 posts) - - Show Bio

@Floopay said:

@spiderman009 said:

@Floopay said:

@spiderman009 said:

shaw loses badly magneto can lift bridges and he fkn threw wolverine in that forest what can shaw do nothing he cant even LIFT wolverine.

Where on Earth did you get the notion Shaw can't lift Wolverine?

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

adamantium probably weights about 800 tons magneto just loifted it

800 TONS!? It doesn't even weigh 800 pounds. In the comics Adamantium only augments his weight by about 100 pounds, and not even that. At 800 pounds he wouldn't be able to ride a motorcycle, or any other small vehicle. He wouldn't be able to sleep in a normal bed without completely destroying mattresses.

Honestly, Shaw was able to shatter concrete effortlessly, and bend entire I-bars without exerting any effort by simply walking through them, and it didn't slow down his movement speed AT ALL.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

well magneto wins he is better

@JediXMan said:

@rastaboi said:

would shaw be able to take the weight of an entire junkyard if x3 magneto were to simply drop the millions of pounds of metal on top of him at a slow speed? (less kinetic energy) then slowly crush him to death?

This is a bad way of doing it. Shaw absorbs kinetic energy. You're saying to hit him with a lot of big, heavy things.

The most efficient way to kill him is to slowly drive a small, sharp object through him. It needs to be a small point of entry at a slow speed in order to work.

That say, Magneto is capable. But your scenario would empower Shaw, not kill him.

stop it

#20 Posted by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@rastaboi said:

would shaw be able to take the weight of an entire junkyard if x3 magneto were to simply drop the millions of pounds of metal on top of him at a slow speed? (less kinetic energy) then slowly crush him to death?

This is a bad way of doing it. Shaw absorbs kinetic energy. You're saying to hit him with a lot of big, heavy things.

The most efficient way to kill him is to slowly drive a small, sharp object through him. It needs to be a small point of entry at a slow speed in order to work.

That say, Magneto is capable. But your scenario would empower Shaw, not kill him.

The only problem is according to the OP he absorbed all the atomic energy he had at the end of First Class. So it's going to be hard to do anything to him that could hold him in place long enough to drive something through his forehead at a slow pace...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#21 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderman009 said:

stop it

Stop what? Proving inaccuracies? No, I will not.

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#22 Posted by spiderman009 (26 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@spiderman009 said:

stop it

Stop what? Proving inaccuracies? No, I will not.

cant stand it leaving thread bye

#23 Posted by JediXMan (30611 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderman009 said:

@JediXMan said:

@spiderman009 said:

stop it

Stop what? Proving inaccuracies? No, I will not.

cant stand it leaving thread

'Kay.

@spiderman009 said:

bye

See ya.

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#24 Posted by rastaboi (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman Good point, So it would basically come down to to who has more control over the said small, slow moving object

#25 Posted by Oscars94 (2514 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaw wins due to Xavier's absence. Since he isn't stationary from the psychic attack. He can only absorb Kinetic energy if his minds intact. It is in this scenario.The only way I see Erik winning this is via BFR.