WWHulk vs JSA
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" @Son_of_Magnus said:Covers him in total darkness to the point where he can not see and is immobilized the same defense system used on the Brownestone strong enough to take out Jay Garrick and Alan Scott" Obsidian solos via incapacitation "How? "
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:" @Son_of_Magnus said:Covers him in total darkness to the point where he can not see and is immobilized the same defense system used on the Brownestone strong enough to take out Jay Garrick and Alan Scott "" Obsidian solos via incapacitation "How? "
How would that stop the Hulk from doing his thunderclap
Or going through the ground or leaping out of it's surrounding area
" @Son_of_Magnus said:Because thunderclap would not affect him in shadow form and he can trap a Flash he can trap Hulk. He will be in total darkness no idea of up or down Hulk can run same reason the Jay and Jesse couldn't" @StrongestOneThereIs said:How would that stop the Hulk from doing his thunderclap Or going through the ground or leaping out of it's surrounding area "" @Son_of_Magnus said:Covers him in total darkness to the point where he can not see and is immobilized the same defense system used on the Brownestone strong enough to take out Jay Garrick and Alan Scott "" Obsidian solos via incapacitation "How? "
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:But if he is standing on the ground when enveloped" @Son_of_Magnus said:Because thunderclap would not affect him in shadow form and he can trap a Flash he can trap Hulk. He will be in total darkness no idea of up or down Hulk can run same reason the Jay and Jesse couldn't "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:How would that stop the Hulk from doing his thunderclap Or going through the ground or leaping out of it's surrounding area "" @Son_of_Magnus said:Covers him in total darkness to the point where he can not see and is immobilized the same defense system used on the Brownestone strong enough to take out Jay Garrick and Alan Scott "" Obsidian solos via incapacitation "How? "
Why wouldn't he know where the ground is?
" jesse quick would solo, as would steel "I'm thinking Steel as well
I know Hulk couldn't harm him
But not Jesse
Wow, cannot believe that no one has mentioned Citizen Steel. WWH would get beaten by him or Obsidian single-handedly. Even Damage would have put some hurt on him (now he's dead).
WWHulk punched through invisible woman's shield to get to reed. WWH fought ghost rider, strange, entire x-men roster, sentry.
WWH wins.
" @StrongestOneThereIs: It is a void and is disorienting it takes all of the Green Flame just to break it it. As for Jesse she already has meta super strength of at least 25-50 tons more probably than she has the speed force making her FTL and stronger "Since it can't hurt him
I think it would do nothing but provoke him further
And that would make him madder and then you know what level comes next
" @StrongestOneThereIs: Than what he will be slightly stronger but will still be losing since he is sucked into Obsidian "Slightly?
His very steps break up tectonic plates
His strength was already incalculable in Marvel standards before the increase
It would surely be more than slightly
I say the Hulk
@the human Juggernaut:
@StrongestOneThereIs:
Stell can't be hurt by the Hulk but I don't think he can hurt him as well. I have seen feats to give testament to his durability but not his strength (not strong enough for the Hulk anyway).
@Son_of_Magnus:
Obsidian could be the factor for the win because of the factor of making the Hulk's strength useless, but I agree with SOTI that itr would result in bringing the Worldbreaker.
"Wow, cannot believe that no one has mentioned Citizen Steel. WWH would get beaten by him or Obsidian single-handedly. Even Damage would have put some hurt on him (now he's dead). "
I forgot about Citizen Steel, but already mentioned the fact that Obsidian and Damage are both more than capable of soloing as well.
" @the human Juggernaut said:jesse might as well be jay garrick" jesse quick would solo, as would steel "I'm thinking Steel as well I know Hulk couldn't harm him But not Jesse "
" @Son_of_Magnus said:the point is that no matter how strong he is he will be stuck in there" @StrongestOneThereIs: Than what he will be slightly stronger but will still be losing since he is sucked into Obsidian "Slightly?
His very steps break up tectonic plates
His strength was already incalculable in Marvel standards before the increase It would surely be more than slightly "
" @StrongestOneThereIs: It is a void and is disorienting it takes all of the Green Flame just to break it it. As for Jesse she already has meta super strength of at least 25-50 tons more probably than she has the speed force making her FTL and stronger "Jesse can't hit light speed. Not that it matters because she's still ridiculously fast.
"I say the Hulk
@the human Juggernaut:
@StrongestOneThereIs:
Stell can't be hurt by the Hulk but I don't think he can hurt him as well. I have seen feats to give testament to his durability but not his strength (not strong enough for the Hulk anyway).
@Son_of_Magnus: Obsidian could be the factor for the win because of the factor of making the Hulk's strength useless, but I agree with SOTI that itr would result in bringing the Worldbreaker. "
After thinking about it more I have reconsidered Steel
I forgot that this is a calculating Hulk
After figuring out that he can't hurt Steel
He would just drop him through the ground by slamming him on top of the head
Looks like Obsidian is their best hope of winning
And I still feel that Hulk's change into Worldbreaker would cancel that
" WWH can't hurt Obsidian, who can easily mind control or physically beat the stupid out of him. "Even Xavier stated that he could not control the Hulk
Hulk gets over rated
Liberty Belle and Cyclone can BFR him
@King Hercules said:
PIS, take the WWH arc with a pinch of salt" Even Xavier stated that he could not control the Hulk "
" Hulk gets over rated
Liberty Belle and Cyclone can BFR him
@King Hercules said:PIS, take the WWH arc with a pinch of salt "" Even Xavier stated that he could not control the Hulk "
Why? Because you didn't like the story line? And the Xavier statement wasn't in that arc. He was even resisting Onlsaught.
Mentally?" @King Hercules said:
" @Zoom said:There's a lot of things Xavier can't do. Obsidian is far more powerful. "" WWH can't hurt Obsidian, who can easily mind control or physically beat the stupid out of him. "Even Xavier stated that he could not control the Hulk"
"@Zoom said:Has nothing to do with it. Obsidian doesn't use telepathy.Mentally? "" @King Hercules said:
" @Zoom said:There's a lot of things Xavier can't do. Obsidian is far more powerful. "" WWH can't hurt Obsidian, who can easily mind control or physically beat the stupid out of him. "Even Xavier stated that he could not control the Hulk"
" @King Hercules said:Then what is meant by him controlling Hulk's mind ? I didn't think he had telepathy powers."@Zoom said:Has nothing to do with it. Obsidian doesn't use telepathy. "Mentally? "" @King Hercules said:
" @Zoom said:There's a lot of things Xavier can't do. Obsidian is far more powerful. "" WWH can't hurt Obsidian, who can easily mind control or physically beat the stupid out of him. "Even Xavier stated that he could not control the Hulk"
" Jesse can't hit light speed. Not that it matters because she's still ridiculously fast. "Yes, she can. All she has to do it recite the Speed Force equation, and it's a done deal.
" He doesn't. The shadowlands or darkforce or whatever DC's darkness dimension is called allows him to control others. The starheart protected Alan Scott. Shazam protected Captain Marvel. Hulk has no magic light. "Then I'm reading something wrong. I thought that allowed him to control their shadow, not the individual themselves.
-_- Oh yeah , Xavier can't control Hulk , but Marvel Girl easily makes him revert back to Banner ...
" -_- Oh yeah , Xavier can't control Hulk , but Marvel Girl easily makes him revert back to Banner ... "LOL
" @King Hercules said:and steel will just stand there and say "hit me"?"I say the HulkAfter thinking about it more I have reconsidered Steel I forgot that this is a calculating Hulk After figuring out that he can't hurt Steel He would just drop him through the ground by slamming him on top of the head Looks like Obsidian is their best hope of winning And I still feel that Hulk's change into Worldbreaker would cancel that "
@the human Juggernaut:
@StrongestOneThereIs:
Stell can't be hurt by the Hulk but I don't think he can hurt him as well. I have seen feats to give testament to his durability but not his strength (not strong enough for the Hulk anyway).
@Son_of_Magnus: Obsidian could be the factor for the win because of the factor of making the Hulk's strength useless, but I agree with SOTI that itr would result in bringing the Worldbreaker. "
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:You think a blow from Steel would hurt the Hulk?" @King Hercules said:and steel will just stand there and say "hit me"? ""I say the HulkAfter thinking about it more I have reconsidered Steel I forgot that this is a calculating Hulk After figuring out that he can't hurt Steel He would just drop him through the ground by slamming him on top of the head Looks like Obsidian is their best hope of winning And I still feel that Hulk's change into Worldbreaker would cancel that "
@the human Juggernaut:
@StrongestOneThereIs:
Stell can't be hurt by the Hulk but I don't think he can hurt him as well. I have seen feats to give testament to his durability but not his strength (not strong enough for the Hulk anyway).
@Son_of_Magnus: Obsidian could be the factor for the win because of the factor of making the Hulk's strength useless, but I agree with SOTI that itr would result in bringing the Worldbreaker. "
If so, give an feat example?
" -_- Oh yeah , Xavier can't control Hulk , but Marvel Girl easily makes him revert back to Banner ... "Xavier did say that he has a hard time controlling Hulk's beastly mind
And the Hulk was fighting Onslaught's mind control as well
" @the human Juggernaut said:knocking gog over. WWH has been hurt by less than that" @StrongestOneThereIs said:You think a blow from Steel would hurt the Hulk? If so, give an feat example? "" @King Hercules said:and steel will just stand there and say "hit me"? ""I say the HulkAfter thinking about it more I have reconsidered Steel I forgot that this is a calculating Hulk After figuring out that he can't hurt Steel He would just drop him through the ground by slamming him on top of the head Looks like Obsidian is their best hope of winning And I still feel that Hulk's change into Worldbreaker would cancel that "
@the human Juggernaut:
@StrongestOneThereIs:
Stell can't be hurt by the Hulk but I don't think he can hurt him as well. I have seen feats to give testament to his durability but not his strength (not strong enough for the Hulk anyway).
@Son_of_Magnus: Obsidian could be the factor for the win because of the factor of making the Hulk's strength useless, but I agree with SOTI that itr would result in bringing the Worldbreaker. "
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