The fight is in nyc,darkseid can only fight in a hand to hand manner,no omega effects,wwhulk is at the state where rick has just been stabbed and hes about to crack the east coast so he anger level is very high.
The fight is in nyc,darkseid can only fight in a hand to hand manner,no omega effects,wwhulk is at the state where rick has just been stabbed and hes about to crack the east coast so he anger level is very high.
@venomoushatred1001: I was going to argue that in merely a slug fest Hulk may have a chance. I mean Hulk is very powerful. Catching mountains. Holding titanic plates together etc. Then I remembered what Zeus did to him.....so you get no argument from me.
@pooty said:
@venomoushatred1001: I was going to argue that in merely a slug fest Hulk may have a chance. I mean Hulk is very powerful. Catching mountains. Holding titanic plates together etc. Then I remembered what Zeus did to him.....so you get no argument from me.
LOL.
Zeus slapped Hulk around like an infant child. Darkseid will do the same.@venomoushatred1001: I was going to argue that in merely a slug fest Hulk may have a chance. I mean Hulk is very powerful. Catching mountains. Holding titanic plates together etc. Then I remembered what Zeus did to him.....so you get no argument from me.
Just for pleasure I'll put the same post I did in the previous WW Hulk vs Darkseid thread. It's kinda old but it will do.
Fighting the X-men is not really a feat considering how weak they are compared to a jacked Hulk. Emma is a 2 tonner, Beast was decided to be a 10 tonner, and Colossus' punches hardly have any effect let alone the other 2 even for being a 100 tonner. Emma, beast or Colossus don't come to mind when i think good h2h fighters, they are decent and hardly ever show MA skills. Cyclops probably has better h2h feats than them.






Wolverine probably caused more damage to the Hulk than any of the X-men. He was BFR'd twice and had his brain smashed in. He maybe a 7 in MA skills but they would hardly have any effect against the Hulk, and being hardly a 2 tonner himself just relied on his durability to let himself get in close. Beating someone who is over thousands of times stronger than you doesn't make it credible.




Stalemating Juggernaut is impressive but not good h2h skills since he is just brawler himself, another meathead with super strength and isnt the sharpest knife in the drawer and the fact Hulk had to BFR him doesnt make it credible.




Fighting a reluctant She-Hulk who actually has better h2h feats overall than her cousin, does not give Hulk credible skills. And one shotting Ares who is still significantly weaker than Hulk, and doesnt have any extraordinary h2h feats either doesnt make Hulk credible.





Beating a Ghost Rider when Blaze is in control then having GR go max power then decide Hulk is innocent and ride does not make him a better fighter.








Getting destroyed by Zom Strange then having him suffer some PIS to allow Hulk a chance doesn't make him a good fighter.









Overpowering the Thing who is just another brawler a good one, but still a brawler does not make Hulk better superior than Darkseid in h2h.



And stalemating a CIS Sentry who by flying face first into Hulk's fist and have a punching face contest does not make Hulk a better fighter, Sentry is brawler as well nothing credible about it.


















Beating a Hercules who is unwilling to fight to show the Hulk still has friends takes some real skill.

All the fights Hulk had he just overpowered unskilled brutes. And some who shoulda woulda coulda won suffered PIS/CIS/WIS. Really the only people with credible MA fighters in the MU he faced was Wolverine who is weak, She-Hulk who didnt want to fight and was weaker than Hulk, and Hercules did not want to fight and didnt and let Hulk pound his face in.
Darkseid showed better h2h skills in one comic than Hulk did in the entire World War Hulk run, Orion alone would beat any of the opponents Hulk faced save for Zom Strange. Darkseid is a stronger opponent than any of the people Hulk fought and is a stronger and better fighter than Hulk. Darkseid doesnt need to resort to any of his powers to beat him.
Darkseid has no h2h skill. Hulk has actual training. Their strength is comparable although Hulk is most likely the stronger of the two. Without the use of his powers Darkseid will die against the Hulk.
@god_spawn: All of those scans show more fighting skill than Darkseid has EVER displayed.
@Illuminatus said:
@pooty said:Zeus slapped Hulk around like an infant child. Darkseid will do the same.@venomoushatred1001: I was going to argue that in merely a slug fest Hulk may have a chance. I mean Hulk is very powerful. Catching mountains. Holding titanic plates together etc. Then I remembered what Zeus did to him.....so you get no argument from me.
That version of Hulk is nothing compared to this one.
Hulk is now a planet buster. Darkseid can't simply overpower him. Due to having zero h2h feats, Darkseid can't win using skill. THe OP says h2h, therefore his power set doesn't matter. Hulk smashes Darkseid's face in.
Are you trying to be humorous?Darkseid has no h2h skill. Hulk has actual training. Their strength is comparable although Hulk is most likely the stronger of the two. Without the use of his powers Darkseid will die against the Hulk.
@god_spawn: All of those scans show more fighting skill than Darkseid has EVER displayed.
@Illuminatus said:
@pooty said:Zeus slapped Hulk around like an infant child. Darkseid will do the same.@venomoushatred1001: I was going to argue that in merely a slug fest Hulk may have a chance. I mean Hulk is very powerful. Catching mountains. Holding titanic plates together etc. Then I remembered what Zeus did to him.....so you get no argument from me.
That version of Hulk is nothing compared to this one.
Hulk is now a planet buster. Darkseid can't simply overpower him. Due to having zero h2h feats, Darkseid can't win using skill. THe OP says h2h, therefore his power set doesn't matter. Hulk smashes Darkseid's face in.
@Illuminatus: I'm trying to be logical. Although Hulk may not have posed a problem to Darkseid in the past, he would win in this situation. Darkseid>Hulk under normal conditions however in this situation Hulk would win.
@god_spawn: Since you are posting scans, you mind posting the one comic where Darkseid had those better H2H battles you so said?
Hulk gets downplayed a lot here.
On the other hand, Orion #5 just got SvsFL'd. Still, I'm glad no one pulled the Superman-beat-Darkseid-so-that-means-Darkseid-is-weaksauce card.
@Bright_Blade said:
Darkseid has no h2h skill. Hulk has actual training. Their strength is comparable although Hulk is most likely the stronger of the two. Without the use of his powers Darkseid will die against the Hulk.
@god_spawn: All of those scans show more fighting skill than Darkseid has EVER displayed.
@Illuminatus said:
@pooty said:Zeus slapped Hulk around like an infant child. Darkseid will do the same.@venomoushatred1001: I was going to argue that in merely a slug fest Hulk may have a chance. I mean Hulk is very powerful. Catching mountains. Holding titanic plates together etc. Then I remembered what Zeus did to him.....so you get no argument from me.
That version of Hulk is nothing compared to this one.
Hulk is now a planet buster. Darkseid can't simply overpower him. Due to having zero h2h feats, Darkseid can't win using skill. THe OP says h2h, therefore his power set doesn't matter. Hulk smashes Darkseid's face in.
Darkseid has h2h feats.



















@Dex_Starr said:
Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
They were standing on a piece of the planet.
That was the rubble of the planet. He did destroy it.Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Dex_Starr said:
Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
They were standing on a piece of the planet.
Prove it...the only thing we saw was everyone on the surface die except for like 3 people....
@jashro44 said:
@Dex_Starr said:That was the rubble of the planet. He did destroy it.Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
Proof please....
@Dex_Starr said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Dex_Starr said:
Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
They were standing on a piece of the planet.
Prove it...the only thing we saw was everyone on the surface die except for like 3 people....
If you look at the background you will see pieces of the planet floating around.
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Dex_Starr said:
Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
They were standing on a piece of the planet.
Prove it...the only thing we saw was everyone on the surface die except for like 3 people....
@jashro44 said:
@Dex_Starr said:That was the rubble of the planet. He did destroy it.Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
Proof please....
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Dex_Starr said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@Dex_Starr said:
Hulk isn't a planet buster, if you're talking about the fight with Red She Hulk in the dark dimension, they were standing on the planet right after they collided with each other.
They were standing on a piece of the planet.
Prove it...the only thing we saw was everyone on the surface die except for like 3 people....
If you look at the background you will see pieces of the planet floating around.
You mean pieces of debris? That could easily be part of the area they destroyed, it doesn't mean the entire planet was destroyed.


@CitizenBane said:

Mind if I borrow this?
@Bright_Blade said:
@Illuminatus: I'm trying to be logical. Although Hulk may not have posed a problem to Darkseid in the past, he would win in this situation. Darkseid>Hulk under normal conditions however in this situation Hulk would win.
I'd like to see Hulk's h2h showings and how it is logical.

I'm siding with Hulk. Darkseid has yet to impress me.
Why hasn't this spite been locked?
@god_spawn said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
I'm siding with Hulk. Darkseid has yet to impress me.
Hulk hasn't done anything to say he can beat Darkseid. We can have this debate all over again.
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@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
Hulk gets downplayed a lot here.
On the other hand, Orion #5 just got SvsFL'd.
?? I'm not familiar with the term.
I'm glad no one pulled the Superman-beat-Darkseid-so-that-means-Darkseid-is-weaksauce card.
Well, up until that planet busting scan there wasn't really a need to, since I figured Superman is better than Hulk anyway. However, if that feat is legit, then it would suggest Hulk's punching power is at least as good as Superman's, maybe better; I'm pretty sure Superman has never actually destroyed a planet before. Of course, it kind of depends how big the planet was and what was going on. But in any case, if Hulk is a planet-buster, he should be capable of physically harming DS with his punches.
@jashro44: Do you know what issue # that feat occurred in? I'd like to look into it. Also, are you sure that the Hulk there was supposed to be at the same level as WWH, since that's the version specified in this thread?
@Freefa11 said:
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:
Hulk gets downplayed a lot here.
On the other hand, Orion #5 just got SvsFL'd.
?? I'm not familiar with the term.
I'm glad no one pulled the Superman-beat-Darkseid-so-that-means-Darkseid-is-weaksauce card.Well, up until that planet busting scan there wasn't really a need to, since I figured Superman is better than Hulk anyway. However, if that feat is legit, then it would suggest Hulk's punching power is at least as good as Superman's, maybe better; I'm pretty sure Superman has never actually destroyed a planet before. Of course, it kind of depends how big the planet was and what was going on. But in any case, if Hulk is a planet-buster, he should be capable of physically harming DS with his punches.
@jashro44: Do you know what issue # that feat occurred in? I'd like to look into it. Also, are you sure that the Hulk there was supposed to be at the same level as WWH, since that's the version specified in this thread?
The planet's size and stability are unknown, that fight took place in the Dark Dimension. That feat is from Incredible Hulk 634-635. And no, all that Hulk did was destroy the East Coast (or was it the West?), it was never stated to be Worldbreaker.
@Freefa11:
Spider-Man vs. Firelord. It's a CBR rule that if something is judged to be as ridiculous as Spider-Man beating Firelord, it is PIS'd away.
@Dark Cloud™ said:
@god_spawn said:
@Dark Cloud™ said:
I'm siding with Hulk. Darkseid has yet to impress me.
Hulk hasn't done anything to say he can beat Darkseid. We can have this debate all over again.
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For what it's worth, he survives Apokolips' destruction by Mxyzptlk in "World's Funnest."
(I realize it's an Elseworlds but an argument could be made that it was canon since it was referenced in Bizarro Comics and it outright says it isn't an imaginary tale)
To clear one thing - WWHulk isn't WB Hulk and he isn't planet buster.
To clear another - Zeus won that battle mostly because he doesn't depends too much on his body. Magic power him up to any level of strength he wants, if it isn't above all his energy power and we know that no being in even heralds/Thor level can match that kind of power. Hulk couldn't win that battle.
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