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#1 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Vs

So who wins and why and i am trying to put up new battles and keep the battle forums alive.

#2 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"http://images2.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/3/34/Wrecker_02.jpg Vs So who wins and why and i am trying to put up new battles and keep the battle forums alive."

whats wreckers powers

#3 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Powers

The Wrecker various superhuman attributes as a result of the magical power bestowed upon him by Karnilla the Norn Queen.

Superhuman Strength: The Wrecker is superhumanly strong and, while fully empowered, is capable of lifting about 40 tons. However, while sharing his strength with the other members of the Wrecking Crew, he is only able to lift about 10 tons. This changed when Ulik, another foe of Thor, taught the Wrecker how to master his Asgardian-based powers. The Wrecker is now capable of retaining his original strength and greater use of his powers while still empowering the other members of The Wrecking Crew.

Superhuman Stamina: The Wrecker's musculature generates less fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of an ordinary human. While fully empowered, he can exert himself at peak capacity for about 24 hours before fatigue begins to impair him. However, while sharing his powers with the other three members of the Wrecking Crew, his stamina is considerably diminished. In this state, he is capable of exert himself at peak capacity for about 6 hours.

Superhuman Durability: While fully empowered, the Wrecker's body is highly resistant to all forms of physical injury. He is able to withstand armor piercing machine gun shells, temperature and pressure extremes, falls from great heights, multiple blows from Thor's enchanted hammer, etc. without sustaining injury. While sharing his powers with the other members of the Wrecking Crew, his resistance to damage is substantially decreased. However, his body is still much tougher that nat of an ordinary human. He can still withstand great impact forces, high temperatures, and .45 caliber bullets.

Psionic Link: The Wrecker has established a mental link with his enchanted crowbar. In the past when the Wrecker has lost his superhuman powers, the power has transferred itself into the crowbar. By making physical contact with the crowbar, the Wrecker can transfer the power back into himself. Also, by touching the crowbar, the Wrecker can magically transform whatever he is wearing into his costume. By concentrating on the crowbar, the Wrecker can use it to take mental possession of whoever touches it, and cause an enchanted aura that can repel bullets to surround that person. The Wrecker can also locate members of The Wrecking Crew by concentrating on his crowbar.

Abilities

The Wrecker is a formidable hand to hand combatant and is particularly adept at using street fighting techniques that enable him to make full use of his strength and durability.

Equipment: The Wrecker wields a four-foot long cast iron crowbar which has become virtually indestructible through extensive contact with the Wrecker's enchanted skin. Wielded by the superhumanly strong Wrecker, the crowbar becomes a weapon of vast destructive potential. The Wrecker has used the crowbar to demolish entire buildings in minutes and to hold off the thunder god Thor in battle. The Wrecker has used the crowbar offensively as both a throwing weapon and a bat. Because of the teachings of Ulik, The Rock Troll, he can throw his crowbar and have it return to him, much like Thor's own hammer.

#4 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Powers The Wrecker various superhuman attributes as a result of the magical power bestowed upon him by Karnilla the Norn Queen. Superhuman Strength: The Wrecker is superhumanly strong and, while fully empowered, is capable of lifting about 40 tons. However, while sharing his strength with the other members of the Wrecking Crew, he is only able to lift about 10 tons. This changed when Ulik, another foe of Thor, taught the Wrecker how to master his Asgardian-based powers. The Wrecker is now capable of retaining his original strength and greater use of his powers while still empowering the other members of The Wrecking Crew. Superhuman Stamina: The Wrecker's musculature generates less fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of an ordinary human. While fully empowered, he can exert himself at peak capacity for about 24 hours before fatigue begins to impair him. However, while sharing his powers with the other three members of the Wrecking Crew, his stamina is considerably diminished. In this state, he is capable of exert himself at peak capacity for about 6 hours. Superhuman Durability: While fully empowered, the Wrecker's body is highly resistant to all forms of physical injury. He is able to withstand armor piercing machine gun shells, temperature and pressure extremes, falls from great heights, multiple blows from Thor's enchanted hammer, etc. without sustaining injury. While sharing his powers with the other members of the Wrecking Crew, his resistance to damage is substantially decreased. However, his body is still much tougher that nat of an ordinary human. He can still withstand great impact forces, high temperatures, and .45 caliber bullets. Psionic Link: The Wrecker has established a mental link with his enchanted crowbar. In the past when the Wrecker has lost his superhuman powers, the power has transferred itself into the crowbar. By making physical contact with the crowbar, the Wrecker can transfer the power back into himself. Also, by touching the crowbar, the Wrecker can magically transform whatever he is wearing into his costume. By concentrating on the crowbar, the Wrecker can use it to take mental possession of whoever touches it, and cause an enchanted aura that can repel bullets to surround that person. The Wrecker can also locate members of The Wrecking Crew by concentrating on his crowbar. Abilities The Wrecker is a formidable hand to hand combatant and is particularly adept at using street fighting techniques that enable him to make full use of his strength and durability. Equipment: The Wrecker wields a four-foot long cast iron crowbar which has become virtually indestructible through extensive contact with the Wrecker's enchanted skin. Wielded by the superhumanly strong Wrecker, the crowbar becomes a weapon of vast destructive potential. The Wrecker has used the crowbar to demolish entire buildings in minutes and to hold off the thunder god Thor in battle. The Wrecker has used the crowbar offensively as both a throwing weapon and a bat. Because of the teachings of Ulik, The Rock Troll, he can throw his crowbar and have it return to him, much like Thor's own hammer."

thats all the reson why wrecker wins

#5 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

thats what i thought to but Beast can take a beating and give one but Wrecker should win this.

#6 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"thats what i thought to but Beast can take a beating and give one but Wrecker should win this."

agree

#7 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

thor or wrecker

#8 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor owns him in all day long. They fought countless times in 1966 Thor comics and Thor always wins lol

#9 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Thor owns him in all day long. They fought countless times in 1966 Thor comics and Thor always wins lol"

some more issues i want

#10 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

ya idk the numbers but i will look them up later just remind me k.

#11 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"ya idk the numbers but i will look them up later just remind me k."

bet

#12 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

beast should be able to beat wrecker. wrecker isn't that much stronger and beast is way more agile. beast should be able to dodge most of wrecker's attacks while connecting on most of his.

#13 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know wrecker is pretty fast not like beast but he can lift 40 tons beast only 30 and Wrecker went toe to toe with Thor many times lost but still put up a fight.

#14 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

wrecker's nowhere near as quick as beast and ten tons wont make much of a difference. youre talking about how wrecker goes toe to toe with thor when wrecker can lift 40 tons and thor is well over 100 tons, so if 60 isn't making much of a difference then you know 10 wont.

#15 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

I know but beast could never go toe to toe with Thor Wrecker does by himself and done fairly good like i said he losses but still puts up a fight. so he should have no trouble with beast.

#16 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah but did you ever think that he only goes toe to toe with thor for the storyline? i mean thor goes toe to toe with kurse, how can he have trouble with wrecker?

#17 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

I know what you mean Thor does not have to much trouble with Wrecker, but all i am saying is Wrecker is a tough opponent its guna take more than speed to bring him down. And be four u say it i know beast is strong lol.

#18 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

yes he is and i think the combination of speed and strength would let beast win.

#19 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

I think you are wrong about their physical strength. Beast may have increased since his Beauty and the beast mutation But he was at the 5 ton mark and if I am not mistaken Wrecker was at or near class 100.

#20 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"I think you are wrong about their physical strength. Beast may have increased since his Beauty and the beast mutation But he was at the 5 ton mark and if I am not mistaken Wrecker was at or near class 100."

wrecker was only as strong as the average male asgardian so he could lift 40 tons. beast used to be able to lift one or two but then he had another mutation and his strength increased.

#21 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

This is old school battle Sling orignal strength levels. But if Wrecker hits beast a lot with the crow bar than beast is out.

#22 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!

#23 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"

How the hell does he win?

#24 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"

i think thats the first time igree wit ya

#25 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

....You just aid on the page before that he loses.

#26 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta says:

"Cryo-Wolf says:
"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"
i think thats the first time igree wit ya"

i was not serius

#27 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta says:

"vegeta says:
"Cryo-Wolf says:
"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"
i think thats the first time igree wit ya"
i was not serius"

which time?

#28 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Superhuman Durability: While fully empowered, the Wrecker's body is highly resistant to all forms of physical injury. He is able to withstand armor piercing machine gun shells, temperature and pressure extremes, falls from great heights, multiple blows from Thor's enchanted hammer, etc. without sustaining injury. While sharing his powers with the other members of the Wrecking Crew, his resistance to damage is substantially decreased. However, his body is still much tougher that that of an ordinary human. He can still withstand great impact forces, high temperatures, and .45 caliber bullets. Thank You come on he with stood attacks from Thors Hammer and beast does not have that kinda power thats why he losses.

#29 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta says:

"Cryo-Wolf says:
"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"
i think thats the first time igree wit ya"

that time

#30 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Superhuman Durability: While fully empowered, the Wrecker's body is highly resistant to all forms of physical injury. He is able to withstand armor piercing machine gun shells, temperature and pressure extremes, falls from great heights, multiple blows from Thor's enchanted hammer, etc. without sustaining injury. While sharing his powers with the other members of the Wrecking Crew, his resistance to damage is substantially decreased. However, his body is still much tougher that that of an ordinary human. He can still withstand great impact forces, high temperatures, and .45 caliber bullets. Thank You come on he with stood attacks from Thors Hammer and beast does not have that kinda power thats why he losses."

nuff said

#31 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Cryo-Wolf says:
"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"
How the hell does he win?"

He's quicker, more agile, completely intelligent, an he equals wrecker in strength

#32 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta says:

"vegeta says:
"Cryo-Wolf says:
"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"
i think thats the first time igree wit ya"
that time"

but if he gets hit once through dealing

#33 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"SeanAKAMisery says:
"Cryo-Wolf says:
"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"
How the hell does he win?"

He's quicker, more agile, completely intelligent, an he equals wrecker in strength"

Read my post above and he does not equal him in strength Wrecker can lift 40 tons and beast 30 and that does make a difference and like i said read my post above how will beast hurt him if Wrecker withstood attacks from Thors hammer.

#34 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta says:

"vegeta says:
"vegeta says:
"Cryo-Wolf says:
"BEAST WINS HANDS DOWN!"
i think thats the first time igree wit ya"
that time"
but if he gets hit once through dealing"

like i said

#35 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Beast could win with the aid of some uncharacteristic weapons or more characteristic concoctions(characteristic of Dark Beast). Otherwise Wrecker fulfills his name sake.

#36 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"I think Beast could win with the aid of some uncharacteristic weapons or more characteristic concoctions(characteristic of Dark Beast). Otherwise Wrecker fulfills his name sake."

Thank you oh and for the record this is beast Superhuman Durability. Superhuman Durability: His physiology is durable enough to permit him to take a three-story fall without a broken bone or strain (providing he lands on his feet).

#37 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

I still think Beast could win.

#38 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"I still think Beast could win."

beast Superhuman Durability. Superhuman Durability: His physiology is durable enough to permit him to take a three-story fall without a broken bone or strain (providing he lands on his feet). It will take Wrecker only a couple hits and beast is out and beast can't even hurt Wrecker read Wreckers Superhuman Durability on this page i posted.

#39 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

And, he's not going up against Thor's Hammer, he's going up against Beast.

#40 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

A three story drop ain't equal to a building crushing bat from a mystical crowbar and 40 tons of strength swinging it. And where was it defined that Beasts latest strength rating is at 30 tons.Big jump from 5

#41 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"And, he's not going up against Thor's Hammer, he's going up against Beast."

Hahahah Thors Hammer is way stronger than beast could ever hope to be u make me laugh!!!!!!

#42 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"And, he's not going up against Thor's Hammer, he's going up against Beast."

and

#43 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"Beast has claws, and he's more agile, faster, and more intelleigent. He could trump Wrecker with his intelligence easily."

He can't hurt him physically so he wins how? i am still laughing about what you said about Thors Hammer lol read my post what were u thinking?

#44 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

Beast has claws, and he's more agile, faster, and more intelleigent. He could trump Wrecker with his intelligence easily.

#45 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Cryo-Wolf says:
"And, he's not going up against Thor's Hammer, he's going up against Beast."
Hahahah Thors Hammer is way stronger than beast could ever hope to be u make me laugh!!!!!!"

#46 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Cryo-Wolf says:
"Beast has claws, and he's more agile, faster, and more intelleigent. He could trump Wrecker with his intelligence easily."
He can't hurt him physically so he wins how? i am still laughing about what you said about Thors Hammer lol read my post what were u thinking? "

thats the point he wasnet

#47 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo no disrespect..but I don't think you have as much reading under your belt as would deem neccessary to properly assess this match up.

I only say that because you are rating Thor's hammer less a threat than Beasts claws. I see your point about intellegence though. Unfortunately Wrecker is magic based and possibly more foreign to what Beast knows what to do.

#48 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

SeanAKAMisery says:

"Cryo-Wolf says:
"Beast has claws, and he's more agile, faster, and more intelleigent. He could trump Wrecker with his intelligence easily."
He can't hurt him physically so he wins how? i am still laughing about what you said about Thors Hammer lol read my post what were u thinking? "

#49 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta says:

"SeanAKAMisery says:
"Cryo-Wolf says:
"Beast has claws, and he's more agile, faster, and more intelleigent. He could trump Wrecker with his intelligence easily."
He can't hurt him physically so he wins how? i am still laughing about what you said about Thors Hammer lol read my post what were u thinking? "
thats the point he wasnet"

#50 Posted by SeanAKAMisery (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

vegeta says:

"SeanAKAMisery says:
"Cryo-Wolf says:
"Beast has claws, and he's more agile, faster, and more intelleigent. He could trump Wrecker with his intelligence easily."
He can't hurt him physically so he wins how? i am still laughing about what you said about Thors Hammer lol read my post what were u thinking? "

thats the point he wasnet"

Oblisuly lol damn thats so funny comparing Beast to Thors hammer Mjolnir