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#1 Edited by MrJackAss (104 posts) - - Show Bio
World War Hulk vs Mongul 
 
Both have heard tales of each others glorious battles. Now it is time for two of the greatest Gladiators to face off. Who shall win. 
 
-No BFR 
-Fight is to the Death 
-Characters are acting on normal morals and personalities 
-No weapons, no armor(besides their normal get up) 
 
 
Mr.J
#2 Posted by Inevitable (709 posts) - - Show Bio
World War Hulk would win eventually.
#3 Posted by slacker the hacker (7839 posts) - - Show Bio

Tie
#4 Posted by Jake Fury (18670 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul.
#5 Posted by wallywest55 (231 posts) - - Show Bio

imma say hulk on this one bc mongul is about as strong as superman but he can't really take that many blows from him b4 giving in.

#6 Posted by i4am3marvel2legend1 (34 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk curbstomp no problem
#7 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul. Curbstomp.

#8 Posted by Daydream (2802 posts) - - Show Bio
@slacker the hacker said:
" Tie "
How would they have a tie...? I'd go with Mongul.
#9 Posted by PirateKing69 (4290 posts) - - Show Bio

if its wwh im going with HULK! could be a good fight tho mongul is pretty strong and durable

#10 Posted by warlord1234 (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

World war hulk. People seem to forget that world war hulk was much stronger then he was when he was on skaar.

#11 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul that kicked the crap out of Wonder Woman? 
 
Mongul that tanks heat vision from Superman and then sends him flying with a punch?
 
Mongul that can take on five, six Green Lanterns at once and give them a good fight? 
 
Yeah, I don't think World War Hulk has anything on him.  Not even close.
#12 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

mongul!!, dc characters are a lot stronger tan marvel's.  
 
NEXT

#13 Edited by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:

" Mongul that kicked the crap out of Wonder Woman?  Mongul that tanks heat vision from Superman and then sends him flying with a punch? Mongul that can take on five, six Green Lanterns at once and give them a good fight?  Yeah, I don't think World War Hulk has anything on him.  Not even close. "

Mongul that got curb stomped by Superman. Big deal.
#14 Posted by tensor (4359 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch: don't hate
#15 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul would take down the Hulk before he could reach a level to defeat him 
The guy trades blows with Superman
#16 Posted by termiteone4ever (7374 posts) - - Show Bio

This should be interesting fight Mongul is the better fighter.His strength is great plus he has  energy projection. His skills are way above the Hulks and he faster. HULk is just a wild braweler who doesnt even fight half as dirty as mogul.

#17 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@termiteone4ever said:
"This should be interesting fight Mongul is the better fighter.His strength is great plus he has  energy projection. His skills are way above the Hulks and he faster. HULk is just a wild braweler who doesnt even fight half as dirty as mogul. "

This is WWHulk 
He wasn't just a brawler 
He used the skill he learned in the gladiatorial games
#18 Posted by CyberdyneSystems (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrJackAss:  What version of Mongol are you using in this Battle Thread? i would like to know because then i can cast my opinion.
#19 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk wins easily. Mongul was crucified by Hal Jordan and completely owned by Sinestro.
 
Besides, Superman curbstomps him.

#20 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@deathlife said:
"Hulk wins easily. Mongul was crucified by Hal Jordan and completely owned by Sinestro.  Besides, Superman curbstomps him. "
You say this like you think Hulk could beat Hal, Sinestro or Superman.  Guess what?  He can't.
 
 
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
"@Zoom said:

" Mongul that kicked the crap out of Wonder Woman?  Mongul that tanks heat vision from Superman and then sends him flying with a punch? Mongul that can take on five, six Green Lanterns at once and give them a good fight?  Yeah, I don't think World War Hulk has anything on him.  Not even close. "

Mongul that got curb stomped by Superman. Big deal. "

Mongul's given Superman several good fights which is a lot more than Hulk would do. 
 
#21 Posted by MrDirector786 (43561 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul curbstomps this.

#22 Posted by The Dude. (902 posts) - - Show Bio

WWH in a good majoriy.
#23 Posted by WarChild (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Good Battle, But i`m gonna have to say..... Mongul (But he`ll Know he was in a fight )
 
Mongul, FTW

#24 Posted by MrJackAss (104 posts) - - Show Bio
@CyberdyneSystems said:
" @MrJackAss:  What version of Mongol are you using in this Battle Thread? i would like to know because then i can cast my opinion. "
I'll admit, I don't know much about Mongul. I just know that he is a Gladiator that has taken on Superman and he seems to be a brute, hence the reason I put him up against World War Hulk(mainly for a Gladiator fight). So, IDK, different versions of Mongul. 
 
Mr.J
#25 Posted by Achilles. (3847 posts) - - Show Bio

 
Mongul. he would use his brain. He can make a construct of Caiera to distract Hulk and deliver the final attack

#26 Posted by karrob (4279 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dude. said:
" WWH in a good majoriy. "
#27 Posted by CyberdyneSystems (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrJackAss said:
" @CyberdyneSystems said:
" @MrJackAss:  What version of Mongol are you using in this Battle Thread? i would like to know because then i can cast my opinion. "
I'll admit, I don't know much about Mongul. I just know that he is a Gladiator that has taken on Superman and he seems to be a brute, hence the reason I put him up against World War Hulk(mainly for a Gladiator fight). So, IDK, different versions of Mongul.  Mr.J "
@MrJackAss:  Well Current Mongul would probably lose to WW Hulk, But against Monguls other powerful incarnations most of all Silver Age Mongul, WW Hulk gets God Stomped, and technically Mongul is the better combat specialist.
#28 Posted by JediXMan (30647 posts) - - Show Bio

WWH: Stalemated (possibly beat) Sentry.
 
Mongul: Fights Superman on a regular basis.
 
Yeah... Mongul wins without any effort whatsoever.

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#29 Posted by TheSorcererSupreme (70 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul wins this, he is too much for Hulk.
 
S.S.

#30 Posted by Theraclese (101 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, Mongul would be all over WWH, but i'm still gonna have to say WWH, it won't take long for him to get angry enough to surpass Mongul, especially Jr

#31 Posted by Cregan_Stark (1727 posts) - - Show Bio

WWH should win

#32 Posted by WarlordEternal (2415 posts) - - Show Bio

Is the Mongul Jr with rings?

#33 Posted by Kangconquers (889 posts) - - Show Bio

- Mongul Sr. takes this if he goes for a quick kill.
- Mongul Jr. jobs to Rick Jones.

#34 Edited by Lvenger (20016 posts) - - Show Bio

If we're talking current Mongul, then he loses hard. He lacks a wide range of feats to compete with this version of Hulk though he did handle New 52 Superman pretty well. If it's Post Crisis Mongul Sr, he also loses. The Bryne version of Superman was capable of beating him and we all know how much Bryne neutered Superman's powers in his run. Plus Cyborg Superman made Sr his lapdog and Hank wasn't as powerful as he was towards the end of his Pre New 52 run. And although Mongul Jr might be more powerful than Superman, Jr has still been manhandled by Superman on 3 separate occasions. Once during Ending Battle

Again during Public Enemies (I'm posting a video because one I can't find the exact scans and two this is basically how the Superman vs Mongul fight played out panel for panel)

And Mongul was practically two shotted by Superman in Infinite Crisis 1

Although Superman's range of powers give him a big edge, it's clear in these scans that Superman is physically superior to Mongul by a wide margin. It won't take long for World War Hulk to become too strong for any modern version of Mongul to handle.

#35 Edited by Eisenfauste (8294 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul

#36 Posted by Lvenger (20016 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul

Unless it's the Pre Crisis version that turned the Silver Age Superman into a punching bag, I have my doubts.

#37 Posted by WarlordEternal (2415 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

If we're talking current Mongul, then he loses hard. He lacks a wide range of feats to compete with this version of Hulk though he did handle New 52 Superman pretty well. If it's Post Crisis Mongul Sr, he also loses. The Bryne version of Superman was capable of beating him and we all know how much Bryne neutered Superman's powers in his run. Plus Cyborg Superman made Sr his lapdog and Hank wasn't as powerful as he was towards the end of his Pre New 52 run. And although Mongul Jr might be more powerful than Superman, Jr has still been manhandled by Superman on 3 separate occasions. Once during Ending Battle

Again during Public Enemies (I'm posting a video because one I can't find the exact scans and two this is basically how the Superman vs Mongul fight played out panel for panel)

And Mongul was practically two shotted by Superman in Infinite Crisis 1

Although Superman's range of powers give him a big edge, it's clear in these scans that Superman is physically superior to Mongul by a wide margin. It won't take long for World War Hulk to become too strong for any modern version of Mongul to handle.

New 52 Mongul definitely needs more feats.

Interesting thing to note is that Jr. actually trained Superman in order for him to face Imperiex. IIRC this training allowed Superman to tap into his "hidden potential" so to speak. I guess the irony is that without the help of one of his strongest opponents, Superman (post-crisis) would never have become as powerful as he appeared after his training.

Since this is Jr, my one question is if he has his rings?

#38 Posted by Eisenfauste (8294 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Are the most recent showings from mongul lackluster? He has been consistently written as someone who take's on superman and smacks him around, granted he usually always looses but still.

#39 Posted by Lvenger (20016 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlordeternal: True, Mongul did help him tap his ultimate potential so I guess allowing Superman to reach his ultimate potential should be added to his training resume lol. As for the rings, the OP says "No weapons, no armor(besides their normal get up)" and the Qwardian rings aren't standard gear for Mongul so I can't say for certain that Mongul would have them as part of his normal gear. They'd need to be specified to be allowed and if they were, Mongul would then have a slightly unfair advantage given how powerful the yellow rings can be.

#40 Posted by Lvenger (20016 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Are the most recent showings from mongul lackluster? He has been consistently written as someone who take's on superman and smacks him around, granted he usually always looses but still.

Well his recent showings did have him go toe to toe with New 52 Superman fairly evenly so that is a decent showing. It isn't enough to give him the win over WWH but it's still good. As for his other showings, I've posted 3 occasions where Superman utterly manhandles Mongul in character once he's decided he's had enough, displaying a clear physical advantage over Mongul. That's something WWH can replicate for certain.

#41 Posted by Thedailybagel (3583 posts) - - Show Bio

WWH in a decent majority.

#42 Posted by WarlordEternal (2415 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@warlordeternal: True, Mongul did help him tap his ultimate potential so I guess allowing Superman to reach his ultimate potential should be added to his training resume lol. As for the rings, the OP says "No weapons, no armor(besides their normal get up)" and the Qwardian rings aren't standard gear for Mongul so I can't say for certain that Mongul would have them as part of his normal gear. They'd need to be specified to be allowed and if they were, Mongul would then have a slightly unfair advantage given how powerful the yellow rings can be.

I hear ya. In that case I give this fight to WW Hulk. Even after Superman unlocked his hidden potential, he still considered Mongul to be one of his strongest opponents. So with that being said, I fell like the fight would start off fairly even and then in the end Hulk smashes.

#43 Edited by GhostRavage (8962 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Edited by dondave (37550 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger Pre-52 Mongul has also stomped Pre-52 Superman

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#45 Posted by XiiX (8297 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk.

#46 Posted by lordraiden (7145 posts) - - Show Bio

@zoom said:

Mongul that kicked the crap out of Wonder Woman?

Mongul that tanks heat vision from Superman and then sends him flying with a punch?

Mongul that can take on five, six Green Lanterns at once and give them a good fight?

Yeah, I don't think World War Hulk has anything on him. Not even close.

All that you stated was pre-crisis mongul, nothing was stated in the op about pre-crisis? Funny how people like to jump to pre crisis mongul when measuring his feats?

#47 Edited by lordraiden (7145 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@lvenger Pre-52 Mongul has also stomped Pre-52 Superman

He also got taken out by Krypto (which was Jnr, not snr). When has pre 52 stomped Superman? I know they've fought more than once, but when was it ever a stomp? Would be nice if it was stated what version of Mongul? Jnr? Snr? Pre or post 52?

#48 Edited by jagernutt (2586 posts) - - Show Bio

@tensor:

Ill hate!!!!

Hulk KOs Mongrel by passing gas.

A one hitter quieter.

Mismatch.

#49 Posted by Lvenger (20016 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostravage: Is it because I'm defending Hulk for once lol?

@dondave said:

@lvenger Pre-52 Mongul has also stomped Pre-52 Superman

The only time that happneed was at the end of Superman's training with Mongul Jr IIRC where Superman tricked Mongul with something and gave him over to Lobo I think. And the 3 encounters I've posted after that fight depict Superman absolutely owning Mongul with ease in a couple of pages. I don't remember any other Post Crisis encounters where Mongul has any kind of upper hand against Superman unless you'd care to enlighten me?

I hear ya. In that case I give this fight to WW Hulk. Even after Superman unlocked his hidden potential, he still considered Mongul to be one of his strongest opponents. So with that being said, I fell like the fight would start off fairly even and then in the end Hulk smashes.

Eh maybe but when you see how easily Mongul gets owned by Superman, it's hard to see how WWH can't do the same in the same amount of time.

#50 Posted by dondave (37550 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Superman 32, although Mongul did in the end suffer a villains ending.

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