World War Hulk vs Ghost Rider

   
I'm a big fan of these 2. I want to hear your opinions. What if during the World War Hulk series, Zarathos took over during their encounter and actually fought the Hulk with morals off and fight until the other one is no longer able to continue. Who would win? Why/how? 
 
The battle takes place in New York city. Just imagine if Zarathos didn't took off and decided to put a stop on the Hulk's rampage.

"   I'm a big fan of these 2. I want to hear your opinions. What if during the World War Hulk series, Zarathos took over during their encounter and actually fought the Hulk with morals off and fight until the other one is no longer able to continue. Who would win? Why/how?  The battle takes place in New York city. Just imagine if Zarathos didn't took off and decided to put a stop on the Hulk's rampage. "

cover art is not evidence..
 
Ghostrider's potential is theoretical and hyperbole he hasnt shown the power to actually take down Hulk let alone WWH..

Zarathos is evil and wouldnt care if he was guilty or innocent... pretty sure current GR is not powered by Zarathos at all and is an angel of heaven of sorts angel of vengeance...
 
Zarathos has nothing to do with him in the WWH story as it was the Ghost rider taking full control being unleashed without Johnny Blaze limitation.

"@Pokeysteve: Sorry if this sounds a little noob, can't Hulk resist Penance Stare by raging? Just like what he did to Strange when he visited him in the dream or like Hulk vs Thor where Loki was thrown off by trying to control the Hulk? I don't know if that counts. "

 
The Demonic entity of pure Hellfire is simply beyond Hulk in terms of power in my opinion .

Zarathos with morals off and free from mortal restraint would have his vengeance wether Hulk liked it or not.  
If Hulk were to continue to walk that path, he would find that only pain awaits him.
Hulk may be Rage incarnate ... but in the eyes of the Rider there is no Absolution without a price to pay.

it is i have the  comic with it splashed right on it the only difference is that the comic title and bar code have bn digitally removed..
 
  have you guys read the comic?
 
 http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/e/e6/Ghost_Rider_v.5_12.jpg/300px-Ghost_Rider_v.5_12.jpg

i'm sorry but have started to grow upset since coming back to the vs forum and realizing ppl havent actually read or know the character at all and are given opinions as if it is supported by evidence and history which it is not..... "I feel like the guy from Zoolander, Mugato: "em i the only one who sees this?!"
 
it frustrates me having to give factual history of the character and it being ignored because no one has posted it on the profile page as if that actually sums up the whole of the character.
 
but i am sorry i apologize if i made you feel uncomfortable..

but that wasn't standard ghost rider and it was only strange's opinion aside from that GR lacked any feats and repeated pounding will tire the rider eventually ko'ing him.. 
 
i say the last part b/c ppl have this misconception that he is incapable of being ko'ed which he has..
 
the only impressive thing unleash Rider did was rev his engine..... normal rider was just trying to stop hulk tying the chain to the subway cart and that was more impressive for the hulk then the rider.

" GR vs WWH comic only showed how Johny Blaze controlled the GR. if GR was in control of THE GR GR would've undoubtly beaten Hulk. "

" @GhostPool said:

" GR vs WWH comic only showed how Johny Blaze controlled the GR. if GR was in control of THE GR GR would've undoubtly beaten Hulk. "

with what feats? nothing but assumption of power via hyperbole of a third party. "

Ghost Rider.

" Hulk would win, since believe it or not his soul is still clean or good. He does not kill people and during WWH he had a pretty good reason to be angry. They fought on Ghost Rider and the Hulk won, or at least would of won had the kept fighting. "

Ghostrider should be able to win this

"but that wasn't standard ghost rider and it was only strange's opinion aside from that GR lacked any feats and repeated pounding will tire the rider eventually ko'ing him..   i say the last part b/c ppl have this misconception that he is incapable of being ko'ed which he has..  the only impressive thing unleash Rider did was rev his engine..... normal rider was just trying to stop hulk tying the chain to the subway cart and that was more impressive for the hulk then the rider. "

LOL The rider got this

" Zarathos isn't part of Ghost Rider and hasn't been since most of you were born.  That said, the Rider could still kill the Hulk.  Strange says as much in the issue where they fight and Hulk  wasn't able to do actual damage to Ghost Rider. "

" @Dark King said:

"but that wasn't standard ghost rider and it was only strange's opinion aside from that GR lacked any feats and repeated pounding will tire the rider eventually ko'ing him..   i say the last part b/c ppl have this misconception that he is incapable of being ko'ed which he has..  the only impressive thing unleash Rider did was rev his engine..... normal rider was just trying to stop hulk tying the chain to the subway cart and that was more impressive for the hulk then the rider. "

How about beating up a guy who conquered Heaven?  Beating up Satan?  Taking everything the Hulk could dish out and healing it all instantly?  Making the Hulk scream in pain?  Staring down the Hulk and making him flinch?  How're those for feats? You seem to not understand how the Rider's powers work and that's okay.  I mean, you're the guy that low balled Ghost Rider so much as to say you thought Wolverine could beat him. "

Hulk can 'BFR' .
 
Rider will be in control of the fight but at some point Hulk will get his hands on him.
 
 Surprising that these two have never had a real battle being that they have been teamed up, so many times in the past.

Finally a discussion. Keep em coming guys, I want others as well to put their input into this topic. These are 2 of my favorite heroes and it makes me giggle like a little girl seeing different opinions with well explained thoughts on how one can pummel the other. I do agree with Dark King that the Rider has yet to prove that he can swing with the big hitters. If someone can show that he can win by mixing it up with the big boys, that would be great. 
 
Also, didn't the Rider schooled the Avengers before by himself? Does that prove anything?

"Finally a discussion. Keep em coming guys, I want others as well to put their input into this topic. These are 2 of my favorite heroes and it makes me giggle like a little girl seeing different opinions with well explained thoughts on how one can pummel the other. I do agree with Dark King that the Rider has yet to prove that he can swing with the big hitters. If someone can show that he can win by mixing it up with the big boys, that would be great.  Also, didn't the Rider schooled the Avengers before by himself? Does that prove anything? "

not sure of that.. but  i do recall classic GR anf Thor mixed it up..
 
 http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability21-MagicalAvengers214.jpg
  http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/23990/555443-58148822kw4_super.jpg 

I'll go with GR

" @Zoom said:

" Zarathos isn't part of Ghost Rider and hasn't been since most of you were born.  That said, the Rider could still kill the Hulk.  Strange says as much in the issue where they fight and Hulk  wasn't able to do actual damage to Ghost Rider. "

Excuse my noobishness but who was Johnny Blaze talking to during his appearance in World War Hulk if it wasn't Zarathos? "

"That comic book was bad writeing i mean look Ghost rider can lift around 5 tons<Hulk strength is limitless,infinite, ever lasting goes on forever Hell Fire > Thunder clap thunder clap is pretty strong but hell fire burns the soul AND the body but hulks durability and healing would over come it GR durability < Hulks durability, he has tooken hits that would of destroyed the earth. GR speed (motorcycle) < Hulks speed he can RUN at 300 mph and leap very very very far. stamina TIE Chain < Hulks hand, hulk has defeated ONLSAUGHT and pretty sure ghosty couldnt "

"Hulk has survived Johnny Storm going into the super nova "

"Hulk literally rips him apart "

Wrong on so many levels.  Hulk's strength is not infinite.  It is based on his rage.  There are plenty of characters stronger than Hulk.  The strength of the Rider doesn't really matter because he's gonna win by blasting the Hulk with hellfire.  Hulk's durability isn't greater than the Rider's.  The Rider can't be injured by anything less than a holy weapon, which not only makes him more durably but it means the Hulk can't actually hurt him.  Ghost Rider's motorcycle is significantly faster than the Hulk.  He's driven around the planet in the middle of battle.  Hulk didn't defeat Onslaught.  Don't be silly.     "

wasn't it stated ghost rider could have won if he were in control

" That comic book was bad writeing i mean look Ghost rider can lift around 5 tons<Hulk strength is limitless,infinite, ever lasting goes on forever Hell Fire > Thunder clap thunder clap is pretty strong but hell fire burns the soul AND the body but hulks durability and healing would over come it GR durability < Hulks durability, he has tooken hits that would of destroyed the earth. GR speed (motorcycle) < Hulks speed he can RUN at 300 mph and leap very very very far. stamina TIE Chain < Hulks hand, hulk has defeated ONLSAUGHT and pretty sure ghosty couldnt "

Ghost Rider

" @Zoom:  Hulk has killed by mistake [knocking over buildings. ect ] after being attacked. All of the damage he has done has been in self defense 'in his mind'.   For this his  conscience clear of wrong doing. "