@shenron007: no...Zues can be equal to Zeus but he has no feats or anything stated ever how he is able to access his abilities and do anything the way Odin does...Odin can blow up galaxys by blasting them with energies from his body...Zues might have to conjure up spells or needs to draw energies from his brothers which he has to get permission from them to use...who knows...this is evident how both of them are different in how they live long(they can be killed but Zues can never die by old age) and how Odin has to go through Odin sleep to retain his power and Zues does not...besides...this a hand to hand match...meaning his versatility here is meaningless...
@ancient_0f_days: As annoying as that guy is, there is a very important context behind Hulk not fighting back, he had an agenda. That being said, Zeus would still win, but these scans don't matter much in that regard.
@ancient_0f_days: Ah Incredible Hulk Annual from 2001, but Hulk took several lightnings from Warrior's Madness Thor during Incredible Hulk #440 and wasn't KO'd as well as taking hits and lightnings from a none holding back Thor back in Incredible Hulk #300 without any significant harm whatsoever. Even though he was KO'd in the annual, he did the same to Thor within 3 hits and prior to that lightning Hulk already took Thor exact same lightning and was somehow fine afterwards.
@ancient_0f_days: Agreed, Hulk cannot do that to Zeus, but the context behind those scans is VERY important. So the point is, if you're going to tell the story, don't tell only the part that suits you.
@vineman52: Hold up I wasn't paying attention. WBH beats Zeus, Odin, and Thor at the same time? What has the Hulk done to put him anywhere near high skyfather levels? LOW Skyfather maybe, and that's being generous, but not high skyfather like these guys.
Hold up I wasn't paying attention. WBH beats Zeus, Odin, and Thor at the same time? What has the Hulk done to put him anywhere near high skyfather levels? LOW Skyfather maybe, and that's being generous, but not high skyfather like these guys.
Regular Hulk has the feats to contend with skyfathers and effortlessly defeat them. (i.e savage hulk has beaten onslaught, defeated a device built to beat celestials, destroyed universes as a sideffect of his battle). Worldbreaker Hulk (based on logic) is at least a megavesal being based on the fact that he is leagues above savage hulk in terms of power. So if savage hulk can curbstomp skyfathers (based on actual feats), then worlbreaker hulk should easily do it without trouble.
Hold up I wasn't paying attention. WBH beats Zeus, Odin, and Thor at the same time? What has the Hulk done to put him anywhere near high skyfather levels? LOW Skyfather maybe, and that's being generous, but not high skyfather like these guys.
Regular Hulk has the feats to contend with skyfathers and effortlessly defeat them. (i.e savage hulk has beaten onslaught, defeated a device built to beat celestials, destroyed universes as a sideffect of his battle). Worldbreaker Hulk (based on logic) is at least a megavesal being based on the fact that he is leagues above savage hulk in terms of power. So if savage hulk can curbstomp skyfathers (based on actual feats), then worlbreaker hulk should easily do it without trouble.
Ok idk much on Onslaught so I'll give you that one, for now. The device built to beat celestials is ABC logic. That's like saying just because A beats B, and C can beat A, that C beats B as well. Also, scan on the universe thing.
Hold up I wasn't paying attention. WBH beats Zeus, Odin, and Thor at the same time? What has the Hulk done to put him anywhere near high skyfather levels? LOW Skyfather maybe, and that's being generous, but not high skyfather like these guys.
Regular Hulk has the feats to contend with skyfathers and effortlessly defeat them. (i.e savage hulk has beaten onslaught, defeated a device built to beat celestials, destroyed universes as a sideffect of his battle). Worldbreaker Hulk (based on logic) is at least a megavesal being based on the fact that he is leagues above savage hulk in terms of power. So if savage hulk can curbstomp skyfathers (based on actual feats), then worlbreaker hulk should easily do it without trouble.
Ok idk much on Onslaught so I'll give you that one, for now. The device built to beat celestials is ABC logic. That's like saying just because A beats B, and C can beat A, that C beats B as well. Also, scan on the universe thing.
Hold up I wasn't paying attention. WBH beats Zeus, Odin, and Thor at the same time? What has the Hulk done to put him anywhere near high skyfather levels? LOW Skyfather maybe, and that's being generous, but not high skyfather like these guys.
Regular Hulk has the feats to contend with skyfathers and effortlessly defeat them. (i.e savage hulk has beaten onslaught, defeated a device built to beat celestials, destroyed universes as a sideffect of his battle). Worldbreaker Hulk (based on logic) is at least a megavesal being based on the fact that he is leagues above savage hulk in terms of power. So if savage hulk can curbstomp skyfathers (based on actual feats), then worlbreaker hulk should easily do it without trouble.
Ok idk much on Onslaught so I'll give you that one, for now. The device built to beat celestials is ABC logic. That's like saying just because A beats B, and C can beat A, that C beats B as well. Also, scan on the universe thing.
Fair enough. But as per Secret Wars 2015, destroying Earth also includes that universe. Odin is, debatably, a galaxy buster. Hulk must've destroyed only that Earth or that universe's Earth equivalent.
@ghostravage: If we go by feats alone then TOAA should probably get his ass handed to him by Captain America. You truly are in denial about Hulk getting stomped by Zeus. It seems that you have made up your mind based on your personal interpretation of things so no point arguing with you.
@ghostravage: If we go by feats alone then TOAA should probably get his ass handed to him by Captain America. You truly are in denial about Hulk getting stomped by Zeus. It seems that you have made up your mind based on your personal interpretation of things so no point arguing with you.
No. The problem is by concept TOAA does not need any feats (he does have) because he's the ultimate omnipotent being in the Marvel Universe, Zeus on the other hand has failed to operate as a Sky Father like Odin several times. Hell, TOAA's lack of feats is what keeps his character development untouched and still be considered that powerful, Zeus on the other hand has enough instances to make a case yet fails to operate as high as people puts him.
Why are you responding to such an old post. I couldn't care less at this point.
@ghostravage: Well I just watched Captain America Civil War and got so pissed off at the absurdity of Iron Man getting ridiculed by a mere "peak-human strength" character that I had to come here and post something.
@ghostravage: Well I just watched Captain America Civil War and got so pissed off at the absurdity of Iron Man getting ridiculed by a mere "peak-human strength" character that I had to come here and post something.
Consider that the environment was nothing short of an absolute worst case scenario for Tony. It allowed Captain America to capitalise on his 1 v 1 close range speciality while providing Tony with very few options to utilise his full arsenal of ranged equipment and superior manoeuvrability and he was simultaneously fighting two opponents both with the capacity to damage his suit (something which any other Cap/Bucky level without the same gear would not have accomplished). Furthermore Tony was still outperforming them at times and a strong case can be made that he was holding back.
For me it's absolutely stupid to show Iron Man get even slightly affected by cap's punches, especially after you've seen him facing the Hulk and Thor on equal terms. And I'm not just talking about the final scene (Tony's worst case scenario as you said) where Tony needed to use the armor's A.I. to even fight back, but also their first encounter at the airport where cap (peak human!) goes H2H against Iron Man (100T!) and holds his own... I've seen some pretty ridiculous things happen in comics but that movie has topped everything.
Nobody knows how much the "heavens" weigh as it is an ambiguous term and more meant as a metaphor rather then an actual strength feat. Especially seeing as Hercules carried those same heavens and he is physically weaker then Hulk, let alone WBH.
Zeus can nullify his healing. He can match him blow for blow with magic and amp himself further. I would not be surprised if he could depower Hulk and just absorb the energy hes using.
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