#1 Edited by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

World Breaker Hulk vs New 52-Superman

Rules

Both have standard Gear, WBH has a standard amount of comic power, Morals on, No BFR, Random encounter, both have some knowledge of each other, No aid from allies, or external resources. Battle takes place in Gotham City, 3:00 PM, almost no bystanders, fully interactive environment, battle may be taken else where, 1 km starting distance, Battle is won by Death, Incapacitation, Surrender, or K.O.

#2 Posted by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#3 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#4 Posted by XiiX (8275 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#5 Posted by Malonius (886 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

Is New-52 Superman stronger and more durable than WBH? I thought New-52 Superman was nerfed a bit. I always considered pre-New-52 Superman and Hulk in more or less the same strength/durability class, both with amp capabilities.

#6 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (902 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#7 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#8 Posted by SpectresWrath01 (208 posts) - - Show Bio

@Malonius said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

Is New-52 Superman stronger and more durable than WBH? I thought New-52 Superman was nerfed a bit. I always considered pre-New-52 Superman and Hulk in more or less the same strength/durability class, both with amp capabilities.

New 52 Superman has already benched planet sized weight for 5 days straight. He did not even find his upper limit and he was away from the sun while he was doing it. I dunno but to me this already makes him stronger than pre 52 Superman.

#9 Posted by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#10 Posted by baron2011 (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#11 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011 said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#12 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

wbh and stop the hulk hate on here

#13 Posted by bornstar (1320 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#14 Posted by Parallax_Hal_Jordan (867 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#15 Posted by Cybrilious4 (1766 posts) - - Show Bio

World Breaker Hulk cracks Superman's ribs

#16 Posted by gboat73 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

WBH for the win

#17 Posted by Wolfrazer (6738 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman.

#18 Posted by SPM1M (804 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 Superman has enough feats under his belt to defeat WBH its even arguable that new 52 is more powerful than pre flashpoint supes but like i said supes still and always will stomp banner

#19 Posted by Malonius (886 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpectresWrath01 said:

@Malonius said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

Is New-52 Superman stronger and more durable than WBH? I thought New-52 Superman was nerfed a bit. I always considered pre-New-52 Superman and Hulk in more or less the same strength/durability class, both with amp capabilities.

New 52 Superman has already benched planet sized weight for 5 days straight. He did not even find his upper limit and he was away from the sun while he was doing it. I dunno but to me this already makes him stronger than pre 52 Superman.

I saw some new-52 Superman feats such as the one you mentioned just today so I fully agree now that Hulk would lose once again to Superman.

#20 Posted by Axe2k1 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

This would be a lot closer than people think.

Strength and durability would be very comparable. Supes was able to bench the weight of earth for days, but WBHulk has already shattered a planet and presumably would have shattered earth if he wasn't stopped. Looking at the two feats, I think Supes is a more impressive display of stamina, but Hulk's is a more impressive display of power. For example, someone who can bench press 300lbs in iron weights, wouldn't be able to punch through a 300lb solid stone.

Not to mention WWHulk already beat Sentry, the Marvel version of Supes, and WBHulk is much, much more powerful. In a battle of raw brute force, I take WB here, but it wouldn't be a stomp either way.

#21 Posted by Thorcules (68 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#22 Posted by Thorcules (68 posts) - - Show Bio

@Axe2k1 said:

This would be a lot closer than people think.

Strength and durability would be very comparable. Supes was able to bench the weight of earth for days, but WBHulk has already shattered a planet and presumably would have shattered earth if he wasn't stopped. Looking at the two feats, I think Supes is a more impressive display of stamina, but Hulk's is a more impressive display of power. For example, someone who can bench press 300lbs in iron weights, wouldn't be able to punch through a 300lb solid stone.

Not to mention WWHulk already beat Sentry, the Marvel version of Supes, and WBHulk is much, much more powerful. In a battle of raw brute force, I take WB here, but it wouldn't be a stomp either way.

Didn't sentry stalemate WWHulk?

#23 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#24 Posted by BossMan404 (137 posts) - - Show Bio

@Axe2k1 said:

This would be a lot closer than people think.

Strength and durability would be very comparable. Supes was able to bench the weight of earth for days, but WBHulk has already shattered a planet and presumably would have shattered earth if he wasn't stopped. Looking at the two feats, I think Supes is a more impressive display of stamina, but Hulk's is a more impressive display of power. For example, someone who can bench press 300lbs in iron weights, wouldn't be able to punch through a 300lb solid stone.

Not to mention WWHulk already beat Sentry, the Marvel version of Supes, and WBHulk is much, much more powerful. In a battle of raw brute force, I take WB here, but it wouldn't be a stomp either way.

No it was a combined effort.

#25 Posted by Zoch81 (259 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#26 Posted by SPM1M (804 posts) - - Show Bio

@BossMan404 said:

@Axe2k1 said:

This would be a lot closer than people think.

Strength and durability would be very comparable. Supes was able to bench the weight of earth for days, but WBHulk has already shattered a planet and presumably would have shattered earth if he wasn't stopped. Looking at the two feats, I think Supes is a more impressive display of stamina, but Hulk's is a more impressive display of power. For example, someone who can bench press 300lbs in iron weights, wouldn't be able to punch through a 300lb solid stone.

Not to mention WWHulk already beat Sentry, the Marvel version of Supes, and WBHulk is much, much more powerful. In a battle of raw brute force, I take WB here, but it wouldn't be a stomp either way.

No it was a combined effort.

And he died in the process, idk why ppl leave that part out all the time this feat gets brought up, no one survived the clash between hulk and red she hulk in the dark dimension this includes hulk, the reason he was still standing is due to the effects of the wishing well as well as why everyone else was still alive.

#27 Posted by heroesgold (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#28 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

WBH...this I the strongest incarnation of hulk seen..if doomsday could beat him to death this hulk could

#29 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (936 posts) - - Show Bio

@Axe2k1: Supes had no contact with the sun for 5 days, while bench pressing earth... damn =/...

#30 Posted by Qpzmg (976 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman.

#31 Posted by Mortein (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

@Axe2k1 said:

This would be a lot closer than people think.

Strength and durability would be very comparable. Supes was able to bench the weight of earth for days, but WBHulk has already shattered a planet and presumably would have shattered earth if he wasn't stopped. Looking at the two feats, I think Supes is a more impressive display of stamina, but Hulk's is a more impressive display of power. For example, someone who can bench press 300lbs in iron weights, wouldn't be able to punch through a 300lb solid stone.

Not to mention WWHulk already beat Sentry, the Marvel version of Supes, and WBHulk is much, much more powerful. In a battle of raw brute force, I take WB here, but it wouldn't be a stomp either way.

and you ignored the most important thing in battle, speed.

Superman can move at FTL speeds

and think up to million times faster than normal humans

#32 Posted by AmazingScrewOnHead (712 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah good two characters i both dislike, i would say Superman since WWH was riddled with PIS.

#33 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (543 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

#34 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

@jobbernos said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

#35 Posted by UltramanPrime (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman Win

#36 Posted by Alexman113 (487 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpectresWrath01 said:

@Malonius said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

Is New-52 Superman stronger and more durable than WBH? I thought New-52 Superman was nerfed a bit. I always considered pre-New-52 Superman and Hulk in more or less the same strength/durability class, both with amp capabilities.

New 52 Superman has already benched planet sized weight for 5 days straight. He did not even find his upper limit and he was away from the sun while he was doing it. I dunno but to me this already makes him stronger than pre 52 Superman.

Correct, pre-flashpoint needed Wonder Woman and Martial Manhunter to help move the Earth while this Superman proved he could easily do it alone. New 52 is somwehere between Pre-Flashpoint and Silver Age in power.

#37 Posted by Avengers_Assemble (16 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with Axe2k1, I think WB Hulk would win this although supes would put up a great fight

#38 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2638 posts) - - Show Bio

I gotta go with World Breaker.

#39 Posted by BMEZY (1211 posts) - - Show Bio

@Smart_Dork_Dude: why?? Superman is atleast as strong if not stronge than this incarnation of Hulk not to mention significantly faster (percption speed included) and he can fly? What's your argument for WBH

#40 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2638 posts) - - Show Bio

@BMEZY: Because, and I hate to sound like every other uber Hulk fanboy as Superman is my favorite superhero, but New 52 hasn't shown any of the other powers that would allow him to win. He hasn't shown being able to vibrate his molecules to pass through blows like pre-New 52 Supes could do or a number of other powers. Now take Hulk for instance. He's at his absolute strongest known level for this battle. He also still gets angrier the stronger he gets. This Hulk is also trained in gladiatorial combat and Superman would most likely be expecting a raging mindless beast not something that could fight intelligently. Hulk would overpower him in the long run. Until New 52 shows me some better feats though I'm going for Hulk. He's close to getting there with the Earth benching thing, but still.

#41 Posted by BMEZY (1211 posts) - - Show Bio

@Smart_Dork_Dude: I'm not following you; what other abilities besides his flight, strength and speed will Superman need, here?? Can the Hulk not be bfr'ed? Is Superman too slow to evade and outmaneuver the hulk (in which he is literally x1000s faster than him)?? Their strength is comparable and relatively the same, with even superman showing to have the upper limit. Using a combination of flight and speed will also cause a grounded Hulk problems. What more does superman need, here??

"He's at his absolute strongest known level for this battle" - Irrelevant. Superman at normal levels has been shown benchpressing the earth for 5 DAYS STRAIGHT, how does Hulk compare??

"This Hulk is also trained in gladiatorial combat" - Hulk wouldn't be a touch Superman if Supes didn't wanted him to. Clark's perception, combat, and travel speed FARRRRR outclasses this incarnation of Hulk

..........

Superman bfr's Hulk ftw

#42 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10502 posts) - - Show Bio
@SpectresWrath01 said:

@Malonius said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Lets see.

Superman is stronger, much faster, more durable, can fly, better range attacks, more experience, better perception and senses.

Superman stomps.

Is New-52 Superman stronger and more durable than WBH? I thought New-52 Superman was nerfed a bit. I always considered pre-New-52 Superman and Hulk in more or less the same strength/durability class, both with amp capabilities.

New 52 Superman has already benched planet sized weight for 5 days straight. He did not even find his upper limit and he was away from the sun while he was doing it. I dunno but to me this already makes him stronger than pre 52 Superman.

I agree.
@Axe2k1 said:

This would be a lot closer than people think.

Strength and durability would be very comparable. Supes was able to bench the weight of earth for days, but WBHulk has already shattered a planet and presumably would have shattered earth if he wasn't stopped. Looking at the two feats, I think Supes is a more impressive display of stamina, but Hulk's is a more impressive display of power. For example, someone who can bench press 300lbs in iron weights, wouldn't be able to punch through a 300lb solid stone.

Not to mention WWHulk already beat Sentry, the Marvel version of Supes, and WBHulk is much, much more powerful. In a battle of raw brute force, I take WB here, but it wouldn't be a stomp either way.

When did Sentry with all his power flux become supes' equal?
#43 Posted by dondave (37486 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

Online
#44 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

WBH

#45 Edited by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

WBH not even close.

#46 Posted by Soothing_Sounds (1718 posts) - - Show Bio

WBH used to get so damn undersold.

#47 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: do you ever vote for a marvel character?

I'm a superman fanatic and even I got to admit if you vote for superman in this fight you either don't like hulk don't know about his feats or you are 100% byast to supes. This hulk destroyed a freaking dimension, he was destroying the earth by walking, an average superman shouldn't be able to hurt him, not pre 52, an certainly not new 52.

#48 Edited by dondave (37486 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: do you ever vote for a marvel character?

I'm a superman fanatic and even I got to admit if you vote for superman in this fight you either don't like hulk don't know about his feats or you are 100% byast to supes. This hulk destroyed a freaking dimension, he was destroying the earth by walking, an average superman shouldn't be able to hurt him, not pre 52, an certainly not new 52.

The Hulk is my favourite character, I vote for him when I feel he can win. I vote for whoever I feel wins, that may not be the popular opinion but that not my business. Why would you think I don't vote for Marvel characters, if they're put in a situation where I don't think they can win it's not my fault, when I do feel they can win I vote for them.

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#49 Posted by Superbot400 (420 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: do you ever vote for a marvel character?

I'm a superman fanatic and even I got to admit if you vote for superman in this fight you either don't like hulk don't know about his feats or you are 100% byast to supes. This hulk destroyed a freaking dimension, he was destroying the earth by walking, an average superman shouldn't be able to hurt him, not pre 52, an certainly not new 52.

I'm pretty sure this board dislikes Hulk to be honest. Because if Nu52 superman was pitched against other characters, I'm pretty much posters wouldn't be posting Superman's highest end feats.

I don't really see how Superman is suppose to harm Hulk at his most powerful state .

#50 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave:

Dude if hulk was your favorite character there's no way you let this battle slip by, do you know how powerful Wbh has been shown to be. And I don't think I've ever seen you vote for hulk, you even picked Ww Ina thread against WBH