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#1 Edited by BigCimmerian (7856 posts) - - Show Bio

- Pre Flashpoint version of Wonder Woman, she doesn't have lasso and super speed

- Young Thor as shown in recent Marvel comic books, he has his axe Jarnbjorn

- Morals off, battle take place on Earth, who wins and why?

#2 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not seeing how Thor would stand much of a chance here. The best he's shown was sheer brute force, which Diana can potentially counter and some impressive resilience to attacks that have harmed his older, more experienced and more powerful incarnations. Diana on the other hand, possesses strength on the same level or potentially higher in addition to being ridiculously more skilled. Thor's axe won't be much of a problem as I see Diana disarming him without too much effort if he tends to depend on it for too long and gets reckless.

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#3 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Young Thor

#4 Posted by Ifoughtgalactus (255 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman takes off her braces and beats Thor to a pulp.

#5 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman takes off her braces and beats Thor to a pulp.

If I recall correctly, Pre-Flashpoint/52 Wonder Woman was not affected by the removal of her bracelets as the New 52 incarnation is.

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#6 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2643 posts) - - Show Bio

Even being nerfed a bit here, Diana should still beat this version of Thor

#7 Posted by XImpossibruX (5170 posts) - - Show Bio

@shazam117 said:

Even being nerfed a bit here, Diana should still beat this version of Thor

This.

She's way to good of a fighter, with strength that matches his.

#8 Posted by Psy_Locke (32 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonderwoman Wins :))

#9 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

One thing to be aware of is , used properly, Wonder Woman is going to get hacked into peices with the aze. Marvel has consiously been trying to revamp the axe to be one of the most powerful weapon in marvel universe.

We have seen the axe kill a Celestial, while my first initial response was meh! PIS, Remender made it clear that they were trying to do something big with the axe, making it one of the most powerful weapon.

Wonder Woman better look out for the axe.

#10 Posted by dondave (34560 posts) - - Show Bio

One thing to be aware of is , used properly, Wonder Woman is going to get hacked into peices with the aze. Marvel has consiously been trying to revamp the axe to be one of the most powerful weapon in marvel universe.

We have seen the axe kill a Celestial, while my first initial response was meh! PIS, Remender made it clear that they were trying to do something big with the axe, making it one of the most powerful weapon.

Wonder Woman better look out for the axe.

At that time, the axe wasn't as powerful, Iit was when Thor was over a 100 years older when the Axe was given the magical enhancement

#11 Posted by dondave (34560 posts) - - Show Bio

Also Wonder Woman ftw

#12 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

At that time, the axe wasn't as powerful, Iit was when Thor was over a 100 years older when the Axe was given the magical enhancement

Thats still the story of so called "Young Thor" as revealed in Uncanny Avengers # 6, before he even wielded the mjolnir.

The distinction even in comics was one Thor who doesnt have a hammer, one with the hammer, and another all father.

#13 Edited by demonyusuke713 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

young thor even a young thor has more experience then ww but this isnt the only issue young thor has an ax and its been said and proven that dianna is invulnerable to all things but things with piercing and cuthing power thor holds that it will be a tough fight tho

#14 Edited by comic_book_fan (5296 posts) - - Show Bio

thor wins but the axe has a spell on it specifically to cut through celestial armor.

#15 Posted by BigCimmerian (7856 posts) - - Show Bio

young thor even a young thor has more experience then ww but this isnt the only issue young thor has an ax and its been said and proven that dianna is invulnerable to all things but things with piercing and cuthing power thor holds that it will be a tough fight tho

Thor had his axe for hundreds of years.

#16 Posted by demonyusuke713 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonyusuke713 said:

young thor even a young thor has more experience then ww but this isnt the only issue young thor has an ax and its been said and proven that dianna is invulnerable to all things but things with piercing and cuthing power thor holds that it will be a tough fight tho

Thor had his axe for hundreds of years.

i said thor would win whu even point this out your agreeing with me

#17 Posted by laflux (14248 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not seeing how Thor would stand much of a chance here. The best he's shown was sheer brute force, which Diana can potentially counter and some impressive resilience to attacks that have harmed his older, more experienced and more powerful incarnations. Diana on the other hand, possesses strength on the same level or potentially higher in addition to being ridiculously more skilled. Thor's axe won't be much of a problem as I see Diana disarming him without too much effort if he tends to depend on it for too long and gets reckless.

This.

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#18 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

Just in case, if somebody don't know it - this Thor still can summon lightnings.

#19 Posted by Superboy91 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman

#20 Edited by BOdinson (224 posts) - - Show Bio

Why make war...?

Thor and Wonder Woman

#21 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonyusuke713:pre 52 wonder woman has the feats to prove she can give regular thor a very good fight,there is no way that young thor can win,she has better feats in every category and the axe will be blocked easily,and pre 52 wonder woman's bracelets channel zeus's lightnings.

#22 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

Just in case, if somebody don't know it - this Thor still can summon lightnings.

lightnings that she can take,block or counter with her own lightnings,pre 52 wonder woman has the feats to prove she can give regular thor a very good fight,there is no way that young thor can win,she has better feats in every category.

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#24 Edited by demonyusuke713 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonyusuke713:pre 52 wonder woman has the feats to prove she can give regular thor a very good fight,there is no way that young thor can win,she has better feats in every category and the axe will be blocked easily,and pre 52 wonder woman's bracelets channel zeus's lightnings.

true but young thor powers are still pretty much the same to say ww runs this fight is like saying robin beats daken and you cant always go by feats if so it eill just turn to a di$* swinging contest thor still has the edge in experience and skill still about superman lvl strength in speed thor has diproven that by saying he can see and react to ftl speeds (well thats regular thor but these are basic abilities that will never change in reboots ) so young thor still holds a fair shot unless diana knows a magic spell or has a magic weapon that is majorly op thor can win this not with ease but will still win (btw thor alln(regular thor) out vs ww wins no contest )

#25 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonyusuke713:again pre 52 WW has better feats than young thor in every category and that matters a lot,and she is a better fighter,pre 52 WW has the feats to prove she can give regular thor(without odin force)a run for his money.

#26 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (4696 posts) - - Show Bio

@bodinson said:

Why make war...?

Thor and Wonder Woman

Yup, it ends in sex. lol

#27 Posted by BOdinson (224 posts) - - Show Bio

@bodinson said:

Why make war...?

Thor and Wonder Woman

Yup, it ends in sex. lol

Yep! Planet busting... This is young Thor after all, maidens, mead and war that's all he cares about at that point lol.

With Wonder woman he gets to have all 3!!!

Having a nice night with Wonder woman somewhere in a remote tavern on Midgard, rolling around, the foundations of the 9realms shakes! Odin calls the Asgardian guard and calls all to arm themselves Ragnarok is coming!!!! Meanwhile back at the ranch...

#28 Posted by demonyusuke713 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonyusuke713:again pre 52 WW has better feats than young thor in every category and that matters a lot,and she is a better fighter,pre 52 WW has the feats to prove she can give regular thor(without odin force)a run for his money.

she isnt a better fighter even a young thor is older and more experienced then she is being up to thousands years old he stil has his immense strength this battle can only be determined if wonderwoman has a highevel spell or magic weapon

#29 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@demonyusuke713:wonder woman's fighting skills are more versatil,she is stronger,faster,more durable(except piercing weapons) and also has her own divine lightning,as i said,pre 52 wonder woman is a very good fight for regular thor without odin force,young thor is weaker,i can post many feats from pre 52 wonder woman if you want.

#30 Edited by demonyusuke713 (336 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior: thor is also versatile and skilled in h2h he been at it for thousands of years even the young thor this fight is still even for the most part cuz young thor still holds his older incarnation experience (although not as vast) and basic abilities

#31 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Just in case, if somebody don't know it - this Thor still can summon lightnings.

lightnings that she can take,block or counter with her own lightnings,pre 52 wonder woman has the feats to prove she can give regular thor a very good fight,there is no way that young thor can win,she has better feats in every category.

He is stronger than she is, he is more durable, he can summon lightnings, that she would have to block, while he will attack her with his axe.

Young Thor is THOR, just without Mjolnir. If someone want to say that he is weaker, than I would like to know based on what statements. He already has few centuries behind him. He isn't weaker physically than current Thor, so he wins this battle for sure.

#32 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:based on what is yooung thor as strong and durable as regular thor?,and who cares,she can take his lightnings,and she can chennel her own lightnings too.

#33 Posted by BOdinson (224 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Just in case, if somebody don't know it - this Thor still can summon lightnings.

lightnings that she can take,block or counter with her own lightnings,pre 52 wonder woman has the feats to prove she can give regular thor a very good fight,there is no way that young thor can win,she has better feats in every category.

He is stronger than she is, he is more durable, he can summon lightnings, that she would have to block, while he will attack her with his axe.

Young Thor is THOR, just without Mjolnir. If someone want to say that he is weaker, than I would like to know based on what statements. He already has few centuries behind him. He isn't weaker physically than current Thor, so he wins this battle for sure.

Well look at young Thor vs Older Thors as a hungry lion and a sated one...Which one do you think is more dangerous?

Young Thor might not have all the extra experience, wisdom and even power as the older versions but he is definitely more hungry for battle and actively chases it. I recall a funny moment from the Thor God of Thunder run...Old Thor: "You forget, the boy has no mjolnir, he cannot fly." Young Thor: "Do not worry about me, old man. I'm the only Thor here who has already beaten this bastard. Twice". Sure it gets mentioned that he was also the only Thor that got captured, twice...But also pointed out pointed that in comparison with the two older versions, Young Thor is more rash and reckless.

He's far more hungry for battle than any other older version of himself. That makes him dangerous.

@czarny_samael666:based on what is yooung thor as strong and durable as regular thor?,and who cares,she can take his lightnings,and she can chennel her own lightnings too.

I've seen this line of argument before...Tell me what makes DC's lightning so much more effective than Marvel's lightning? I've seen people argue that Thor's lightning would do nothing to Black Adam all the while arguing that Thor would get knocked the F out by Black Adam's lightning.

Here you do it again, she can take Thor's lightning, and she can channel her own, as if her own would be more effective...?

#34 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:based on what is yooung thor as strong and durable as regular thor?,and who cares,she can take his lightnings,and she can chennel her own lightnings too.

Gorr couldn't take his lightnings, WW won't do any better. Her best reflecting feats are blocking OB (nothing above affecting Superman level being who is below Gorr or Silver Surfer) and explosion that destroy Olympus (not impressive in this level).

He IS Thor, just without Mjolnir. His character is different, but it is still Thor.

#35 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:WW has taken lightnings from zeus and nekron,thor's lightings can't affect surfer who abdorbs energy and dflys through stars and WW has zeus lightings,she is in his strength class,and is faster than him in combat.

#36 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@bodinson:her ligtings come from the king of gods,so it's very useful against thor's lightings that's what i mean.

#37 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (4696 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a nice thread by the way. Reading The God of Thunder issue's was awesome. Even at a young age Thor had made such awesome adventures. Really liked that series. I have nothing but respect for the guy right now.

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#39 Posted by BigCimmerian (7856 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:WW has taken lightnings from zeus and nekron,thor's lightings can't affect surfer who abdorbs energy and dflys through stars and WW has zeus lightings,she is in his strength class,and is faster than him in combat.

Thor's lightning hurt Chaos King.

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#41 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: and wonder woman has been able to withstand lightnings from zeus and nekron,those lightnings come from 2 biengs that are no joke either,and she can also channel zeus lightnings.

#42 Posted by BigCimmerian (7856 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: and wonder woman has been able to withstand lightnings from zeus and nekron,those lightnings come from 2 biengs that are no joke either,and she can also channel zeus lightnings.

Chaos King >>>>>>>> Nekron and Zeus

#43 Posted by jashro44 (19735 posts) - - Show Bio

One thing to be aware of is , used properly, Wonder Woman is going to get hacked into peices with the aze. Marvel has consiously been trying to revamp the axe to be one of the most powerful weapon in marvel universe.

We have seen the axe kill a Celestial, while my first initial response was meh! PIS, Remender made it clear that they were trying to do something big with the axe, making it one of the most powerful weapon.

Wonder Woman better look out for the axe.

0_o The axe can kill a celestial and thor traded that in for mojlnir?!?! Why?

#44 Posted by dondave (34560 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuwarrior said:

@bigcimmerian: and wonder woman has been able to withstand lightnings from zeus and nekron,those lightnings come from 2 biengs that are no joke either,and she can also channel zeus lightnings.

Chaos King >>>>>>>> Nekron and Zeus

There's no indication that his lightning actually hurt Chaos King

#45 Posted by BigCimmerian (7856 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@bigcimmerian said:

@gokuwarrior said:

@bigcimmerian: and wonder woman has been able to withstand lightnings from zeus and nekron,those lightnings come from 2 biengs that are no joke either,and she can also channel zeus lightnings.

Chaos King >>>>>>>> Nekron and Zeus

There's no indication that his lightning actually hurt Chaos King

Of course there is, Chaos King was talking and he stopped when he got struck by lightning, his mouth were widely opened which means he screamed, that lightning opened him up for Herc's assault. There is no indication if you don't want to see it.

#46 Posted by FlashGreaterSignEveryone (967 posts) - - Show Bio

idk. young thor has some nice feats as well, but i think wonder woman can take it even though she is new 52

#47 Posted by dondave (34560 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@bigcimmerian said:

@gokuwarrior said:

@bigcimmerian: and wonder woman has been able to withstand lightnings from zeus and nekron,those lightnings come from 2 biengs that are no joke either,and she can also channel zeus lightnings.

Chaos King >>>>>>>> Nekron and Zeus

There's no indication that his lightning actually hurt Chaos King

Of course there is, Chaos King was talking and he stopped when he got struck by lightning, his mouth were widely opened which means he screamed, that lightning opened him up for Herc's assault. There is no indication if you don't want to see it.

His mouth was open because he was interrupted in the middle of talking, if he was hurt he have made a typical sound such as "ARGGH" or something of the like, not to mention there were no visible marks on his body that indicated he'd been hurt at all by the lightning, at best it provided a distraction for Hercules to rally himself

#48 Posted by Cgoodness (3909 posts) - - Show Bio
you guys talking about this?

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#49 Posted by dondave (34560 posts) - - Show Bio
#50 Posted by BigCimmerian (7856 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@bigcimmerian said:

@dondave said:

@bigcimmerian said:

@gokuwarrior said:

@bigcimmerian: and wonder woman has been able to withstand lightnings from zeus and nekron,those lightnings come from 2 biengs that are no joke either,and she can also channel zeus lightnings.

Chaos King >>>>>>>> Nekron and Zeus

There's no indication that his lightning actually hurt Chaos King

Of course there is, Chaos King was talking and he stopped when he got struck by lightning, his mouth were widely opened which means he screamed, that lightning opened him up for Herc's assault. There is no indication if you don't want to see it.

His mouth was open because he was interrupted in the middle of talking, if he was hurt he have made a typical sound such as "ARGGH" or something of the like, not to mention there were no visible marks on his body that indicated he'd been hurt at all by the lightning, at best it provided a distraction for Hercules to rally himself

Chaos King is multiversal entity who is probably more powerful than Eternity, fact that he felt Thor's thunder should indicate how powerful it is.