#1 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3748 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pitting Diana against Thor ability against ability. Who wins?
 
Strength:
 
Speed:
 
Durability:
 
Intellect:
 
Fighting Ability:
 
Weaponry:

#2 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
Strength : Wonder Woman
Speed : Wonder Woman 
Durability : Wonder Woman 
Intellect : IDK 
Fighting Ability : Wonder Woman 
Weaponry : Thor
#3 Posted by tensor (3903 posts) - - Show Bio

ww for all except for the last 1

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#4 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on the versions.  

Current Thor vs Current Wonder Woman 
Strength: Wonder Woman 
Speed: Wonder Woman 
Durability: Wonder Woman  
Intellect: Wonder Woman
Fighting Ability: Wonder Woman 
Weaponry: Split 
 
Classic Thor vs Current Wonder Woman 
Strength: Wonder Woman by a small margin. 
Speed: Wonder Woman 
Durability: Thor 
Intellect: Wonder Woman 
Fighting Ability: Wonder Woman 
Weaponry: Thor

#5 Posted by Erik (31672 posts) - - Show Bio

Strength: Wonder Woman 
 
Speed: Wonder Woman 
 
Durability: Wonder Woman 
 
Intellect: Wonder Woman 
 
Fighting ability: Wonder Woman 
 
Weaponry: This one I might give a tie to. Thor has Mjolnir and the belt of strength. Diana has her unbreakable bracelets, her tiara, and her rope. If we include all of her weaponry, she also has other magical weapons. 

#6 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio
Strength : Wonder Woman
Speed : Wonder Woman 
Durability : Wonder Woman 
Intellect : Wonder Woman
Fighting Ability : Wonder Woman 
Weaponry : Thor  
 
#7 Posted by NexusOfLight (1715 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't this what people do when determining a victor anyway?

#8 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@NexusOfLight: Basically but more in detail. 
#9 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
@NexusOfLight said:
" Isn't this what people do when determining a victor anyway? "
pretty much... its just laid out where we have to answer every attribute in question of the characters at hand....
#10 Posted by NexusOfLight (1715 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467: @King Saturn:  
 
Cool, jus' checkin'.
#11 Posted by MrRagePants (843 posts) - - Show Bio

On paper?
 
Strength: Thor - when you think of STR, in DC you think of Superman, BA, Orion, etc. In Marvel you think of Hulk, Herc, Thor, etc.
Speed: WW - WW can almost keep up with Jesse Quick. Thor has what?
Durability: Thor
Intellect: Tie
Fighting Ability: WW - Trained in different type of fighting styles. Thor is trained to smash things with hammer.
Weaponry: WW - Thor isn't comparable to Ares when it comes to knowledge about weapons. WW has been shown to train with different weapons.

#12 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrRagePants said:
" On paper?  Strength: Thor - when you think of STR, in DC you think of Superman, BA, Orion, etc. In Marvel you think of Hulk, Herc, Thor, etc.Speed: WW - WW can almost keep up with Jesse Quick. Thor has what?Durability: ThorIntellect: TieFighting Ability: WW - Trained in different type of fighting styles. Thor is trained to smash things with hammer.Weaponry: WW - Thor isn't comparable to Ares when it comes to knowledge about weapons. WW has been shown to train with different weapons. "
Thor isn't stronger than Wonder Woman.If you think Superman when someone thinks strength than you have to think Wonder Woman as well.She's damn near his equal. 
 
Also they are no tie in intellect.Wonder Woman is definitely smarter than Thor.Wonder Woman gets her wisdom\intellect from Athena the Goddess of Wisdom. 
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#13 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

/waits for Cosmicspiral

#14 Posted by MrRagePants (843 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:

" @MrRagePants said:

" On paper?  Strength: Thor - when you think of STR, in DC you think of Superman, BA, Orion, etc. In Marvel you think of Hulk, Herc, Thor, etc.Speed: WW - WW can almost keep up with Jesse Quick. Thor has what?Durability: ThorIntellect: TieFighting Ability: WW - Trained in different type of fighting styles. Thor is trained to smash things with hammer.Weaponry: WW - Thor isn't comparable to Ares when it comes to knowledge about weapons. WW has been shown to train with different weapons. "
Thor isn't stronger than Wonder Woman.If you think Superman when someone thinks strength than you have to think Wonder Woman as well.She's damn near his equal.  Also they are no tie in intellect.Wonder Woman is definitely smarter than Thor.Wonder Woman gets her wisdom\intellect from Athena the Goddess of Wisdom.  "
I know those two things you pointed out. But the OP said, "in paper", in which I assume he meant "what each character are suppose to be". Like DC made WW strong but Superman is stronger, Marvel made Thor strong. 
 
The intelligent part I just threw tie because I cannot make up my mind,  because Thor being able to comprehend Ragnarok and actually ending it when Odin didn't even think of it, is by far the most intelligent feat he has done.
#15 Posted by Erik (31672 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrRagePants:  
To be fair, Odin has always been the 'smash the thing in front of me' kind of man. Thor being able to think of a way to end a cycle to something that Odin never seemed to try to end does not really shock me. 
#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrRagePants said:
I know those two things you pointed out. But the OP said, "in paper", in which I assume he meant "what each character are suppose to be". Like DC made WW strong but Superman is stronger, Marvel made Thor strong.   The intelligent part I just threw tie because I cannot make up my mind,  because Thor being able to comprehend Ragnarok and actually ending it when Odin didn't even think of it, is by far the most intelligent feat he has done. "
Marvel gives their characters limitations with strength classes..although most exceed it..Thor is still class 100.
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#17 Posted by MrRagePants (843 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
" @MrRagePants:  To be fair, Odin has always been the 'smash the thing in front of me' kind of man. Thor being able to think of a way to end a cycle to something that Odin never seemed to try to end does not really shock me.  "
Wasn't Odin often consulted upon when there's trouble abound in Asgard? Out of all the asgardians they have to ask for his wisdom. Maybe, because he is their King. Who knows. Also, wasn't Odin the one who designed the Destroyer armor, which is pretty indestructible.
 
@Vance Astro said:
" @MrRagePants said:
I know those two things you pointed out. But the OP said, "in paper", in which I assume he meant "what each character are suppose to be". Like DC made WW strong but Superman is stronger, Marvel made Thor strong.   The intelligent part I just threw tie because I cannot make up my mind,  because Thor being able to comprehend Ragnarok and actually ending it when Odin didn't even think of it, is by far the most intelligent feat he has done. "
Marvel gives their characters limitations with strength classes..although most exceed it..Thor is still class 100. "
And that's his paper stats. 100/100. I would put Superman 100/100 and WW at 99/100. Like I said, comic feats, WW will trump Thor in strength. I'm just basing my opinion with the "on paper" per OP.
#18 Posted by Erik (31672 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrRagePants said:
" @erik said:
" @MrRagePants:  To be fair, Odin has always been the 'smash the thing in front of me' kind of man. Thor being able to think of a way to end a cycle to something that Odin never seemed to try to end does not really shock me.  "
Wasn't Odin often consulted upon when there's trouble abound in Asgard? Out of all the asgardians they have to ask for his wisdom. Maybe, because he is their King. Who knows. Also, wasn't Odin the one who designed the Destroyer armor, which is pretty indestructible."
He was likely among the smartest of all the Asgardians but they all have the same thought process.  
 
Designing something from magic does not convey intellect for me because magic bends rules that would otherwise need to be worked through. 
#19 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrRagePants said:
And that's his paper stats. 100/100. I would put Superman 100/100 and WW at 99/100. Like I said, comic feats, WW will trump Thor in strength. I'm just basing my opinion with the "on paper" per OP. "
That doesn't make sense because class 100's aren't all equal Thor lifts way more than Namor,Iron Man,Wonder Man etc. Yet they are all still in the same strength class, so why would Diana who gets her strength from Demeter (The God of Earth) and is considered earth's strongest heroine be placed below that? DC Gods aren't like Marvel Gods either.Mostly all of them are powerful as hell just judging by Ares,Hercules,Athena etc and all the characters that get their powers from gods that are extremely powerful like Black Adam & Captain Marvel.
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#20 Posted by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

 

Strength : Wonder Woman
Speed : Wonder Woman 
Durability : draw
Intellect : I'm not sure
Fighting Ability : Wonder Woman 
Weaponry : Thor
#21 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

 Strength: THOR (He is able to lift the earth itself)

Speed: THOR (He is fast as light, or more i dont know)


Durability: THOR
 


Intellect: WONDER WOMAN
 I dont need pics for that

Fighting Ability: Tie (Both have done awesome things)


 

Weaponry: MJOLNIR!!! (The best WEAPON)

#22 Posted by jasraj (4728 posts) - - Show Bio

  • Thor wins all except intellect
      

#23 Posted by MrRagePants (843 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:

"He was likely among the smartest of all the Asgardians but they all have the same thought process.   Designing something from magic does not convey intellect for me because magic bends rules that would otherwise need to be worked through.  "

Point taken.
 
@Vance Astro said:

"That doesn't make sense because class 100's aren't all equal Thor lifts way more than Namor,Iron Man,Wonder Man etc. Yet they are all still in the same strength class, so why would Diana who gets her strength from Demeter (The God of Earth) and is considered earth's strongest heroine be placed below that? DC Gods aren't like Marvel Gods either.Mostly all of them are powerful as hell just judging by Ares,Hercules,Athena etc and all the characters that get their powers from gods that are extremely powerful like Black Adam & Captain Marvel. "

I completely understand what you are saying. Again, I am just looking at paper stats and I am completely ignoring any comic feats (per OP)
 
I mean, this is how I would score DC heroes...
BA 100/100 
Superman  99/100 - because he's below Adam in STR
Wonder Woman 98/100 - because she's below BA and Superman in STR
 
Marvel ...
Hercules 100/100
Hulk/Juggy/Thor - 99/100
Namor - 98/100
 
Those are my opinions, if you would be so kind to give me your ranking it would be my pleasure to read them to understand your point of view.
#24 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deadcool said:
"  Strength: THOR (He is able to lift the earth itself)

Speed: THOR (He is fast as light, or more i dont know)


Durability: THOR
 


Intellect: WONDER WOMAN
 I dont need pics for that

Fighting Ability: Tie (Both have done awesome things)


 

Weaponry: MJOLNIR!!! (The best WEAPON)

"
Wonder Woman can move FTL as well... also isnt that strength feat of Thor like 30 years old or so ??? Thor doesnt really have any solid strength feats in modern days... and it looks like he was moving the Snake not so much the Earth... 
#25 Posted by Erik (31672 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn:  
The most significant strength feat current Thor had was lifting Asgard. He had the Odin Force at the time AND he needed help from Beta Ray Bill to do it. 
#26 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
" @King Saturn:  
The most significant strength feat current Thor had was lifting Asgard. He had the Odin Force at the time AND he needed help from Beta Ray Bill to do it.  "
I recall that...
#27 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3748 posts) - - Show Bio
@NexusOfLight said:
" Isn't this what people do when determining a victor anyway? "
True for the most part but, as Saturn said this is a more detailed version of it. I chose these two because when ever I see them together for the most part I've seen Thor as the victor. I thought if I brought it down to basics I could see why. For the most part I myself am a little surprised to see so many answer Diana for the majority.
#28 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
" @King Saturn:  
The most significant strength feat current Thor had was lifting Asgard. He had the Odin Force at the time AND he needed help from Beta Ray Bill to do it.  "
It wasn't so much lifting as it was just barely holding it up.They weren't even standing straight up. 
 
@MrRagePants said:
I completely understand what you are saying. Again, I am just looking at paper stats and I am completely ignoring any comic feats (per OP)
 
I mean, this is how I would score DC heroes...
BA 100/100 
Superman  99/100 - because he's below Adam in STR
Wonder Woman 98/100 - because she's below BA and Superman in STR
 
Marvel ...Hercules 100/100 Hulk/Juggy/Thor - 99/100 Namor - 98/100  Those are my opinions, if you would be so kind to give me your ranking it would be my pleasure to read them to understand your point of view. "
 
That's the beef.There isn't really any "on paper" stats for DC characters.Marvel has strength classes and yearly handbooks.I'm not trying to use any feats but we only know Superman and Black Adam are stronger than Wonder Woman because of feats..there is no way would have known otherwise.Even what's stated about him in comics is based on feats.
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#29 Edited by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deadcool said:

"  Strength: THOR (He is able to lift the earth itself)

    

          "
 Thor never lifted the Earth and is not capable of it.He's actually barely lifting anything.He's towing the Midgard Serpent.
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#30 Edited by Renee (10289 posts) - - Show Bio
Strength: Wonder Woman
Speed: Wonder Woman 
Durability: Wonder Woman 
Intellect: Wonder Woman
Fighting Ability: Wonder Woman 
Weaponry: Tie? I feel like Wonder Woman has better weaponry for defensive but Thor has better for offensive.
#31 Posted by BattleMage (1128 posts) - - Show Bio

Her comment right there should closed this. 
#32 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll give Thor strength durability and weponary
#33 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn:   Strength : Wonder Woman
Speed : Wonder Woman 
Durability : Wonder Woman 
Intellect : IDK 
Fighting Ability : Wonder Woman 
Weaponry : Thor 
 
this
#34 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn: @Vance Astro:  Well, that Snake is suposed to be as heavy as EARTH itself also SILVER AGE THOR is CURRENT THOR and HE IS A GOD!!!!!! 
He moved Galactus, Galactus is more powerful than most of the beings in Marvel, for him everybody are insects, THOR is a BIG INSECT...
He is more much Stronger than the Wonder Woman

#35 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik:  Odinforce does nothing to Thor's Stregth... He is more powerful not more stronger...
#36 Posted by Vance Astro (91122 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deadcool said:
" @King Saturn: @Vance Astro:  Well, that Snake is suposed to be as heavy as EARTH 
Where is that stated.... 
 
@Deadcool said:
 SILVER AGE THOR is CURRENT THOR and HE IS A GOD!!!!!! 
False.Silver Age Thor and current Thor are two different levels of character. 
 
@Deadcool said:
He moved Galactus, Galactus is more powerful than most of the beings in Marvel, for him everybody are insects, THOR is a BIG INSECT...
Galactus has been knocked down by weaker characters than Thor.
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#37 Edited by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio
Classic Thor vs Current WW 
Strength:
 Tie
Speed: Wonder Woman 
Durability: Tie 
Intellect: Wonder Woman
Fighting Ability: Wonder Woman 
Weaponry:     Thor 
 
Current Thor vs Current WW 
Strength: Wonder Woman 
Speed: Wonder woman 
Durability: Wonder Woman 
Intellect: Wonder Woman 
Fighting ability: tie 
Weaponry: Thor
#38 Edited by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said: 

Where is that stated....

Sorry I read it long time ago here is the real Weight (Sorry for the problems, it's not the weight of the earth is not even close):

J) Thor lifted the Midgard Serpent which girds the entire Earth and holds the Ocean in place-Thor-#272.

Now, lets do a little math here. An average Anaconda is 20 FEET long by 1 foot in diameter and 330lbs.
Jormungund (the Midgard Serpent) is 25,000 MILES long by 20 feet in diameter. (6.6 MILLION times longer, 400 times wider... or 2.64 BILLION times larger... see where this is going yet?)
Let's skip the fact that Jormungund is near indestructible, and like Thor, much more dense than normal Earth life (otherwise things go from really ridiculous to... I dont know what I would call it)...
The serpent would weigh (roughly) 435 MILLION TONS... then if you reall want, you can factor in his body/flesh/bones is at least 3 times as dense as a normal snake's (Asgardian's are 3x as dense) - and of course, the serpent's body is possibly even denser considering the environ he lives in...

Source:  http://www.startrekphase2media.com/The_Power_of_Thor.html

False.Silver Age Thor and current Thor are two different levels of character.

What is the Difference between Punsh a Celestial In the Face and Punsh Galactus in the face?

Galactus has been knocked down by weaker characters than Thor. "

Yeah but they needed Galactus to be Weak, Hungry or give him bad Food.
#39 Edited by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deadcool said: 

Intellect: DONALD BLAKE > WONDER WOMAN > THOR

Now it's correct...
#40 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3748 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool:
I don't know how reliable that webstire is. It seems like just another Wikipedia where anything can be edited by anyone.

#41 Posted by KnightmareMegasTTGL (84 posts) - - Show Bio
Strength: Thor 
Speed: Wonder Woman 
Durability: Thor
Intellect: I don't know
Fighting Ability: Thor
Weaponry:
  Thor
#42 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio

Strength: Based on the scans. Pulling the Midgard Serpent off the Earth (imagine the strength required to uncoil something as large as the Earth!!)  Pulling the Earth with Supes, MM and Green lantern is not that much of a feat when you consider that Supes and MM have near limitless strength.
Speed: WW. In recent JLA issues, Supes even admitted that while he might be faster than WW, WW has better combat speed ability.
Durability: Thor. WW can't withstand bullet fire and uses her bracelets to block pretty much everything.
Intellect: I don't know
Fighting Ability: Not sure. WW is pretty well trained but Thor has eons of figthing experience.
Weaponry: Thor. Mjolnir is a planet buster (just ask Ego, the living planet)

#43 Posted by termiteone4ever (6985 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"Strength : Wonder Woman
Speed : Wonder Woman 
Durability : Wonder Woman 
Intellect : IDK 
Fighting Ability : Wonder Woman 
Weaponry : Thor "

King Saturn said it right :)
#44 Posted by Buckshot (18913 posts) - - Show Bio

 Strength : Wonder Woman
Speed : Wonder Woman 
Durability : Wonder Woman 
Intellect : Wonder Woman
Fighting Ability : Wonder Woman 
Weaponry : Thor (he should win this category against almost anyone)

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#45 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Going by current versions...
 
Strength: Wonder Woman 
Speed:  Wonder Woman
Durability: Wonder Woman
Intellect: Debatable
Fighting Ability: Debatable  
Weaponry: Thor.

#46 Posted by Theodore (3445 posts) - - Show Bio

Stength: WW
Speed: WW
Durability: WW
Intellect: WW
Fighting Ability: WW
Weaponry: Thor

#47 Edited by Achilles. (3847 posts) - - Show Bio

 

If Thor doesn't hold his power 

  • Strength: Thor
  • Speed: Wonder Woman
  • Durability: Tie
  • Intellect: I have no idea
  • Fighting Ability: Wonder Woman
  • Weaponry: Thor
#48 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3748 posts) - - Show Bio

What's Diana's greatest single strength feat vs Thor's? I've seen that Midgard Serpent thing pulled out plenty of times but, I'm not convinced that just because something is wrapped around the Earth that it equals the weight of the Earth.

#49 Posted by Susanoo (5909 posts) - - Show Bio
@Evil Incarnate said:
"What's Diana's greatest single strength feat vs Thor's? I've seen that Midgard Serpent thing pulled out plenty of times but, I'm not convinced that just because something is wrapped around the Earth that it equals the weight of the Earth. "

It's strength could've shattered the planet. Im still unsure if Thor's strength =< WW...
#50 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3748 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: 
It as in the Serpent? How is that a Strength feat for Thor? If anything that would be a durability feat if he was taking hits from it.