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#1 Posted by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman

VS

Thanos

-Wonder Woman has access to all of her standard equipment(lasso, tiara, etc.)

-Thanos can only rely on physical offense(no tech or cosmic power)

Who wins?

#2 Posted by Frozen (14488 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman.

#3 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frozen said:

Wonder Woman.

Tell me how Wonder Woman wins. And don't say speed-blitz, because i'm tired of hearing that argument from people. Wonder Woman is a physically weaker than Thanos. Thanos was able to hold his own with a Power Gem Warrior Madness Thor. He was even enjoying the fight a lot. He killed Silver Surfer with brute force, by punching him 4 times. Stomped Hulk, and the Avengers with it too. Thanos stomps, unless you can prove otherwise.

#4 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos.

#5 Posted by blackpanther1 (87 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos is a better at H2H but you are giving him his hands vs All of Wonder womans standard equipment. Maybe with prep thanos can win but. with out it it a pretty unfair battle

#6 Posted by Frozen (14488 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpanther1 said:

Thanos is a better at H2H but you are giving him his hands vs All of Wonder womans standard equipment. Maybe with prep thanos can win but. with out it it a pretty unfair battle

Explain to me why Thanos is better at h2h.

#7 Posted by Saren (25917 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Thanos was able to hold his own with a Power Gem Warrior Madness Thor. He was even enjoying the fight a lot.

Yeah, he held his own and enjoyed the fight so much that he had to leave halfway through and come back with a plot gun to beat Thor.

He killed Silver Surfer with brute force, by punching him 4 times.

Splitting hairs, but it was seven times.

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#8 Posted by Frozen (14488 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Frozen said:

Wonder Woman.

Tell me how Wonder Woman wins. And don't say speed-blitz, because i'm tired of hearing that argument from people. Wonder Woman is a physically weaker than Thanos. Thanos was able to hold his own with a Power Gem Warrior Madness Thor. He was even enjoying the fight a lot. He killed Silver Surfer with brute force, by punching him 4 times. Stomped Hulk, and the Avengers with it too. Thanos stomps, unless you can prove otherwise.

Thanos can win if he uses his other abilities, but if you read the OP it says he can only use his physical offense. How exactly is he stronger? What strength feats does he have? And killing SS and beating Thor, you sure that's not out of context? Hulk actually fought a Warrior Madness Thor but it's quickly claimed to be PIS. Wonder Woman is stronger, faster and a better fighter. Not only is she a better fighter but she has access to all of her standard equipment.

#9 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frozen: *When he killed Surfer, Surfer basically stood there and let him wail on him. He didn't use any of his dozen or so abilities, or supposedly micro-second reactionary speed. Surfer has also nearly killed Thanos. Just pointing that out*

#10 Posted by Frozen (14488 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

@Frozen: *When he killed Surfer, Surfer basically stood there and let him wail on him. He didn't use any of his dozen or so abilities, or supposedly micro-second reactionary speed. Surfer has also nearly killed Thanos. Just pointing that out*

Thanks for that. This is exactly what I mean, his feats can be taken out of context.

#11 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frozen: No problem, and I agree. Whenever it's come to Thanos the writers seem to forget that Silver Surfer can do anything besides fire energy-blasts and get punched in the face(except for that time where he almost killed him).

#12 Posted by imbackwimps (1064 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos wins easy make wonder woman his love slave

#13 Posted by Saren (25917 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: I've heard there was a time when Surfer almost killed Thanos, do you know which issue that was?

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#14 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: No, I don't. Morpheus_ is the one who told me about it. Ask him.

#15 Posted by laflux (16918 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: Different stipulations.

#17 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

*To all who care to take notice since Surfer is so constantly mentioned as Thanos' inferior*

#18 Posted by Saren (25917 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: That was a mental duel.

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#19 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: I know. All the same, he did almost kill him. That's what I was referring to in regards to the notion of Thanos being Surfer's superior in every case.

#20 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't this a duplicate? The other one was locked.

"Be water my friend"

#21 Posted by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek: No. Different rules.

#22 Edited by blackpanther1 (87 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frozen: :I think he had more years of experince since he is older than Wonder woman, He has traded blows with hulk but it is my opinion that's what i think i think he is better at H2h you can think other wise i really don't care

#23 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20387 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: Oh, I see.

"Be water my friend"

#24 Posted by Frozen (14488 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpanther1 said:

@Frozen: :I think he had more years of experince since he is older than Wonder woman, He has traded blows with hulk but it is my opinion that's what i think i think he is better at H2h you can think other wise i really don't care

So? Does he actually train in fighting like Wonder Woman? Wonder Woman is a trained fighter.

#25 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frozen: He's said to have trained Gamora(considered the "deadliest woman in the universe", or something like that). But as far as actual hand to hand feats go, he has almost none to speak of. Some would mention his bout with Champion, but he did that with a combination of tech and outwitting him(side-stepping him and pulling his hair, notably). Besides, that wouldn't put him anywhere near the consistency of Wonder Woman.

I thought the match would be interesting because so many think he outclasses her in physical might, though.

#26 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

Thanos.

#27 Edited by blackpanther1 (87 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frozen:He is trained enough to take on all of Galactus's bot by himself than later going on to give galactus a hell of a fight.

#28 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thanos was able to hold his own with a Power Gem Warrior Madness Thor. He was even enjoying the fight a lot.

Yeah, he held his own and enjoyed the fight so much that he had to leave halfway through and come back with a plot gun to beat Thor.

He killed Silver Surfer with brute force, by punching him 4 times.

Splitting hairs, but it was seven times.

Doesn't matter he still lasted quite a while.

@Frozen said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@Frozen said:

Wonder Woman.

Tell me how Wonder Woman wins. And don't say speed-blitz, because i'm tired of hearing that argument from people. Wonder Woman is a physically weaker than Thanos. Thanos was able to hold his own with a Power Gem Warrior Madness Thor. He was even enjoying the fight a lot. He killed Silver Surfer with brute force, by punching him 4 times. Stomped Hulk, and the Avengers with it too. Thanos stomps, unless you can prove otherwise.

Thanos can win if he uses his other abilities, but if you read the OP it says he can only use his physical offense. How exactly is he stronger? What strength feats does he have? And killing SS and beating Thor, you sure that's not out of context? Hulk actually fought a Warrior Madness Thor but it's quickly claimed to be PIS. Wonder Woman is stronger, faster and a better fighter. Not only is she a better fighter but she has access to all of her standard equipment.

Wonder Womaan stronger than Thanos physically? Wonder Woman is really overrating now, you guys piss me off with her. Jeeez

Thanos punching Captain Mar-Vell from the moon to earth.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/237/85157929fi8.jpg/

Out-muscling Hulk, Thing, Quasar, Hercules, & Thor.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/53/thanospwns0tg.gif/

Kills Silver Surfer in 7 punches.

Thanos VS Champion with Power Gem

Thanos VS Depowered Tyrant ( Who beat the whole Anihaltors easily alone. )

Thanos VS Warrior Madness Power Gem Thor

#29 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos, even few minutes of planning is enough for him.

He don't have lifting or pulling feat, but that doesn't mean he lacks a punching strength.

#30 Posted by Saren (25917 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Thanos punching Captain Mar-Vell from the moon to earth.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/237/85157929fi8.jpg/

Which issue is this from? The art is from long after Mar-Vell died and I don't remember any of their fights going like this if it's supposed to be a retelling.

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#31 Posted by laflux (16918 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: Oh my bad. Thanos still wins cause wonder-woman is new 52

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#32 Posted by Killemall (18639 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frozen said:

@XiiX said:

@Frozen: *When he killed Surfer, Surfer basically stood there and let him wail on him. He didn't use any of his dozen or so abilities, or supposedly micro-second reactionary speed. Surfer has also nearly killed Thanos. Just pointing that out*

Thanks for that. This is exactly what I mean, his feats can be taken out of context.

Granted the Surfer feat was out of context, and it clearly is because Silver Surfer went to Thanos during Cosmic Power Unlimited 1 to ask for his help, while thanos just attacked him and left him almost close to death. That being said Silver Surfer hasnt even manage to hurt Thanos substantially let alone nearly killing him. The only time Silver Surfer beat Thanos was when they fought in the astral plane thanks to Dr. Strange where neither had access to any powers whatsoever. When thanos has his powers, surfer's blast cant even harm him let alone beat him.

Fighting feat, Thanos has beaten the classic version of Drax the Destroyer who was strong enough to rip the core of a star. Even in the said battle where Drax lost, the whole planet was destroyed. Wonder Woman doesnt have a feat to put her at planetary level, while Thanos beat a guy in pure h2h who was planetary level. Seems to me he's stronger and after that Thanos has had 3 power boosts.

Wonder woman however is faster and more skilled, but Thanos is too goddam durable for her to be able to dish out any serious damage (and i have for the love of god no one is going to post the out of context scan of Gamora drawing blood from Thanos and then herself admitting she cant even harm him).

#33 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thanos punching Captain Mar-Vell from the moon to earth.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/237/85157929fi8.jpg/

Which issue is this from? The art is from long after Mar-Vell died and I don't remember any of their fights going like this if it's supposed to be a retelling.

I don't remember.

#34 Posted by Killemall (18639 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thanos punching Captain Mar-Vell from the moon to earth.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/237/85157929fi8.jpg/

Which issue is this from? The art is from long after Mar-Vell died and I don't remember any of their fights going like this if it's supposed to be a retelling.

Thats from Marvel Adventures, i do remember reading the issue cant point out which one it is. Arent they considered cannon?

#35 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Frozen said:

@XiiX said:

@Frozen: *When he killed Surfer, Surfer basically stood there and let him wail on him. He didn't use any of his dozen or so abilities, or supposedly micro-second reactionary speed. Surfer has also nearly killed Thanos. Just pointing that out*

Thanks for that. This is exactly what I mean, his feats can be taken out of context.

Granted the Surfer feat was out of context, and it clearly is because Silver Surfer went to Thanos during Cosmic Power Unlimited 1 to ask for his help, while thanos just attacked him and left him almost close to death. That being said Silver Surfer hasnt even manage to hurt Thanos substantially let alone nearly killing him. The only time Silver Surfer beat Thanos was when they fought in the astral plane thanks to Dr. Strange where neither had access to any powers whatsoever. When thanos has his powers, surfer's blast cant even harm him let alone beat him.

Fighting feat, Thanos has beaten the classic version of Drax the Destroyer who was strong enough to rip the core of a star. Even in the said battle where Drax lost, the whole planet was destroyed. Wonder Woman doesnt have a feat to put her at planetary level, while Thanos beat a guy in pure h2h who was planetary level. Seems to me he's stronger and after that Thanos has had 3 power boosts.

Wonder woman however is faster and more skilled, but Thanos is too goddam durable for her to be able to dish out any serious damage (and i have for the love of god no one is going to post the out of context scan of Gamora drawing blood from Thanos and then herself admitting she cant even harm him).

This is what i was trying to say, Wonder Woman is outclassed her.

#36 Posted by Saren (25917 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@CitizenBane said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thanos punching Captain Mar-Vell from the moon to earth.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/237/85157929fi8.jpg/

Which issue is this from? The art is from long after Mar-Vell died and I don't remember any of their fights going like this if it's supposed to be a retelling.

Thats from Marvel Adventures, i do remember reading the issue cant point out which one it is. Arent they considered cannon?

Marvel Adventures is not a canon series, it has no relation to the 616 universe. I was wondering when that fight happened because I don't remember any of Mar-Vell's fights with Thanos in the 616 universe going down like that.

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#37 Posted by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: In all fairness, that's all Surfer ever does is "blast" him. People so often and heavily favor Surfer against the like of Superman and other heavy-hitters because of his versatility, but when it comes to Thanos he either just shoots him with an energy-blast, or stands there and gets punched in the face(as opposed to going intangible, altering his density, etc). Thanos has an outstanding track record as far as tanking energy-based offense, so for Surfer to mostly use that against him is.....dumb.

#38 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

@Killemall: In all fairness, that's all Surfer ever does is "blast" him. People so often and heavily favor Surfer against the like of Superman and other heavy-hitters because of his versatility, but when it comes to Thanos he either just shoots him with an energy-blast, or stands there and gets punched in the face(as opposed to going intangible, altering his density, etc). Thanos has an outstanding track record as far as tanking energy-based offense, so for Surfer to mostly use that against him is.....dumb.

Well, but Silver Surfer is very durable naturally. He tanked Supernova explosion, flies into the core of the star several times, capable of shrugging off his own planet explosion caused by himself and hang around black hole as if it didn't exist.

If Thanos can do that to anyone with that type of durability without any sort of amping, he is insanely strong. He have held his own against Power Gem users as well.

I don't know if Wonder Woman ever hang around in the core of the star (like Thor and Surfer) or not.

#39 Posted by Killemall (18639 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

@Killemall: In all fairness, that's all Surfer ever does is "blast" him. People so often and heavily favor Surfer against the like of Superman and other heavy-hitters because of his versatility, but when it comes to Thanos he either just shoots him with an energy-blast, or stands there and gets punched in the face(as opposed to going intangible, altering his density, etc). Thanos has an outstanding track record as far as tanking energy-based offense, so for Surfer to mostly use that against him is.....dumb.

Well thats how surfer fights anyways, although surfer's blast at their best have destroyed planets so its still impressive. But to think of it people just used energy attack against Thanos most often, knowing that Odin couldnt KO him in a stretch battle after which he has got 2 amps but thats who they write him anyways.

I find it hard to believe he's vulnerable to physical force either, because of the whole Drax's thingy and to think of it if Thanos was really vulnerable to phyiscal attack surely one of his nemesis would know about it. Speed is the only thing Thanos doesnt have feats on, but Marvel puts him at class 7 in speed (that could be because of his teleportation but since he has never been blitz before apart from runner with space gem which is infinite speed anyways so shouldnt count) he probably is no slouch either.

#40 Edited by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@AngryHulks: I'm not terribly familiar with the character, but from what I've seen(while his durability is great) Surfer is by no means immune to physical offense. Often characters show a greater resiliency to one type of damage to another. Overall, I can't say for certain though. I believe he's been harmed by Thor before, who by no means hits with the power of a "supernova" on any regular basis.

#41 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5155 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos wins. Funny how this thread opens after the other Thanos vs WW thread was locked. Not mention how badly WW seemed to lose that thread. Nerfing Thanos so WW has a chance. Doesn't matter Thanos still wins to intelligent, strong and durable for WW.

#42 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: Thanos does have a lot of durability against physical force. The high-end one was holding his own against Power Gem users, such as Thor (with Warrior's Madness), Champion, and Drax (who without it, can already destroy a star and naturally designed to kill Thanos). He did show that he is capable of overpowering multiple Earth-based superheroes a lot by nothing but his own muscles.

#43 Posted by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@AngryHulks: I know of the instance with a power-gem wielding Thor, which was impressive. I don't remember Champion actually landing a hit on him, which would render that situation void as far as a durability showing. Drax I can't comment on because I'm not familiar with which particular bouts you're referencing. Lastly, I know of him holding his own against earth's heroes(he is a team-buster after all).

I'm not saying his durability to physical damage isn't great, but there's a difference between tanking shots from Drax and tanking blasts from Odin wielding Gungnir(and giving the expression of being perturbed).

#44 Posted by laflux (16918 posts) - - Show Bio

IN AFTER LOCK!!!!!!!!

In case your wondering Vance locked the original Wonder-woman vs Thanos thread with the the phrase wonder-woman wins. I respect Vance and all, but I really feel that in a battle his vote usually goes against Thanos rather than for the character in question.

Just sayin

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#45 Posted by pooty (11437 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: I see what you're saying. His energy durability has been tested to a higher degree then his physical durability. That is true. Personally, i don't think WW can hit too much harder than Thor and Thanos has taken a surprise shot from Mjolnir and was completely unfazed. If he can keep up with WW speed, i think he can take her

#46 Posted by XiiX (8804 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: Nice breakdown.

#47 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

If Thanos relies on his durability all the way, then here is one possible way the battle could go --

Wonder Woman speedblitz Thanos, landing numerous punch on him in less than a second, but Thanos survived the blitz, which bewildered Wonder Woman, that's when Thanos could land a hit on her.

#48 Posted by pooty (11437 posts) - - Show Bio

@AngryHulks: If not stated then everyone is in character. Meaning WW won't blitz and WW will want to fight. She is a warrior. She will try to fight him using her strength and skill......that is the warriors way. If Thanos was threatening children, i could see her speed blitz. but in a one on one fight, WW want to see who is the better warrior.

@XiiX: Thanks

#49 Posted by Vance Astro (91291 posts) - - Show Bio
@laflux said:

@Vance Astro:

IN AFTER LOCK!!!!!!!!

In case your wondering Vance locked the original Wonder-woman vs Thanos thread with the the phrase wonder-woman wins. I respect Vance and all, but I really feel that in a battle his vote usually goes against Thanos rather than for the character in question.

Just sayin

Actually I didn't lock the original thread and why you keep bringing my name up in threads i'm not posting in is beyond me.
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#50 Posted by NerdsFTW (3732 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

Thanos.